Abady Response To The Critics

Charlie, again, I don't understand why the ingredients are so top secret.  That is my biggest issue with Abady and with his products.  And while there are some foods that I would defend, there is none that I would defend with my dying breath and I almost get the feeling that you might do just that.  Clearly you truely believe in these products.  My guess would be that is because they WORK for your dogs.  And that's the acid test for any food.  Does it work for MY dogs?

Advertising is advertising and food is food.  I don't care how a GOOD food is marketed.  If they want to ride MY dog in a Maserati, they're welcome - where do I sign her up?
But, the bottom line, with any food, is "what's in it??"  If I can't get an accurate picture of what is in it, then I can't make an intelligent choice.  Granted, there will always be people who are fooled by advertising, but they are going to feed Beneful no matter what we say on this message board.  I am not willing to concede that any one manufacturer, including Abady, knows all there is to know about canine nutrition.  None of them are gods.  Recipes change with the marketplace, and he is not immune to the dictates of the profit and loss statement either.  So, instead of getting knickers in an uproar, it is probably more productive for all of us to keep informed, and know what's in the foods we buy for our dogs.  What works for me is - healthy, and not made in China.

Can you imagine if your dog suddenly became ill and that vet said " Maybe it is something in the dog's food, what are you feeding it", and you would have to say that you had no idea what the food was made up of".  Then you would call the company, and the  clown that owns it would call you an A$$hole for thinking that his food was the problem, and hang up on you.    You couldn't make up a story as bad as  this..........  []

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

Can you imagine if your dog suddenly became ill and that vet said " Maybe it is something in the dog's food, what are you feeding it", and you would have to say that you had no idea what the food was made up of".  Then you would call the company, and the  clown that owns it would call you an A$$hole for thinking that his food was the problem, and hang up on you.    You couldn't make up a story as bad as  this..........  []

 
I gotta admit, that was the funniest thing I've read all morning! I'm laughing so hard I'm crying. But yeah, if a dog food company is extremely secretive about their ingredients yet they want to charge you an arm, leg and an ovary because this food is the best one out there and nothing compares to it based on their word then all I have to say is if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Kibbles on the other hand boasting 30%, 35%, 42% protein, figure only 50% and less of the protein core animal source proteins and because grain and carbs dictate the ration, the rest is inferior zero-value Gluten source proteins. 

 
how can you believe this? the high-protein kibbles have high protein because they have a lot of meat in them. Most don't even contain any grain.
TWO is 47% meat meal. That is what it is made of. It has some potatoes in there. Potatoes don't contain any gluten. They contain very little protein. Thus one must conclude that the majority, if not all, of the protein in the food is of high-quality animal sources.
 
It's hard to criticize a food you can't find ingredients for, but I would classify that "Classic" one, the one made out of chicken-by products, the one that doesn't actually have ANY muscle meat in it, as a very nutritionally inferior dog food. "Better than Beneful" but "Worse than Biljac" is my rating.

ORIGINAL: Bobsk8

Can you imagine if your dog suddenly became ill and that vet said " Maybe it is something in the dog's food, what are you feeding it", and you would have to say that you had no idea what the food was made up of".  Then you would call the company, and the  clown that owns it would call you an A$$hole for thinking that his food was the problem, and hang up on you.    You couldn't make up a story as bad as  this..........  []

 
Although some may find this a real knee-slapper, I fail to see the humor?  A) If the person was really feeding Abady they obviously would already have the ingredients, and B), if they actually were feeding Abady they most likely would not be taking a trip to see the vet unless it was considered strictly routine.

Brookecove,
Yes, I did get that wrong and it needs to be clarified.  It is not federal law but rather government definition and it in not simply 20% of the kibble, it is 20% per pound of food.  When I get it wrong it is an honest mistake.  I would just hope people understand despite being accused of double-talk, I do try to get this right because I feel it is important and not something to take lightly.  I take my dogs nutrition seriously.
 
Abady will tell you (and I believe this to be very true) no modern manufacturer has yet to develop a feed as good as Abady's 30 year old formula  Bottom Line Maintenance.  I read this in the older Abady articles found in Pinnacle Pet Supply in Manitoba, and recently read it again in Mr. Abady's response to the critics.  Any kibble product just simply can't compete.
A cup a Granular is twice as powerful as a straight-up cup of Raw.  If you truly believe that there are kibbles than can compete with Granular, you then are also saying those kibbles are better than feeding raw products as well.

ORIGINAL: cc431

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Abady will tell you (and I believe this to be very true) no modern manufacturer has yet to develop a feed as good as Abady's 30 year old formula  Bottom Line Maintenance.  I read this in the older Abady articles found in Pinnacle Pet Supply in Manitoba, and recently read it again in Mr. Abady's response to the critics.  Any kibble product just simply can't compete.
A cup a Granular is twice as powerful as a straight-up cup of Raw.  If you truly believe that there are kibbles than can compete with Granular, you then are also saying those kibbles are better than feeding raw products as well.

 
The problem with this is that how would anyone know this if they are so secretive about the ingredients? It seems the only way you'll find out what's in this food is by buying it first and based what I've read, this food isn't cheap. I don't know about you, but I don't spend my hard earned money blindly. I like to know what I'm buying before I actually buy it. What I don't understand is the secrecy. Why is it so hard to find out what's in Abady? Why is he opposed to having the ingredients out there for everyone to see so that they can make an educated decision prior to buying the food? I think that's the biggest, if not the main, problem people have with Abady.

A cup a Granular is twice as powerful as a straight-up cup of Raw. If you truly believe that there are kibbles than can compete with Granular, you then are also saying those kibbles are better than feeding raw products as well.

Can someone, anyone, translate this for me? I'm a linguist but I'm still having trouble with this. [8D]

ORIGINAL: brookcove  Can someone, anyone, translate this for me? I'm a linguist but I'm still having trouble with this. [8D]

 
A good translation I think to put in proper perspective would be if your feeding Raw and then move mixing  into a Granular, you will be reducing the Raw by 50%.  It would probably take two cups of Raw to equal one cup of Granular in regards to calories.

Here's my Abady girl, if she could speak she would tell ya it's good stuff!
 

 

Charlie at this stage i'm not for or against abady,to be honest i'm over the whole thing.But if i'm to be honest the dog in the picture looks skinny and lacking muscle definition/spindly.Please,please dont  take this personally,it is not an attack against you or the food you feed,it is just my honest opinion.. She is very pretty though [sm=happy.gif]

And can i ask what's on the other end of that chain?She's just chained up for the pic to be taken,right?

She honestly doesn't look like she's in that good of condition to me- especially her coat. Not just that she wasn't brushed, but the condition of her hair. I've seen pictures of Sandra's dogs (which are fed a food I'm not crazy about), but her dogs DO look like they're in great condition with super shiny coats.

She looks good to me...only thing out of the ordinary with her coat is it lacks that cheap food smell and no hot spots.

I was thinking the same thing about her being thin and lacking muscle tone when I saw her pic. She is a beautiful dog though. Below is my very skinny English Toy, she is on Raw frozen, Timberwolf, and sometimes Frozen Bil Jac. I am not seeing a dog with enough muscle tone and weight from yours to make me want to switch to Abady, or she could be built like my little Spaniel.