Abady Response To The Critics

Keep knocking Lard people, go right ahead...it is the most expensive fat to purchase. All dogs need fat in the diet, it is an essential. It has the longest chain of fatty acids available and the the most practical for the dogs body to utilize. It is human grade with no preservatives. It's all about nutrition and what is best for your dogs overall health.

 
Are you suggesting that lard is better for my dogs than wild salmon oil?

ORIGINAL: glenmar

Lets remember that we all have our own opinions and harshness won't change those opinions.

On a personal level, that lard crack, just ticks me off.  The condescending tone bugs the snot out of me.  Yep, the very best pie crust in the world was made with LARD, but when humans ate that way, humans died very young.  Go wander through a graveyard and see just what the average age at death was when folks ate lard and high fats on a regular basis.

Yes, dogs have different nutritional needs than humans, and they certainly metabolize things differently, but seems this food goes to extremes here. 

If this food is not for every dog and is indeed only for high performance dogs, gosh, why are we discussing it?  With a few exceptions, most of us don't HAVE high performance dogs......

 
Chicken Fat, Beef Fat, Animal Fat, Pork Fat...what is the problem with Pork Fat for dogs?  I think most realize fat is an essential in needs to be in the diet.  So, you all mean to tell me you welcome only the cheapest fats in your dogs diet, but because Pork Fat is an Abady ingredient and the most expensive it stinks and becomes unacceptable....my goodness.
 
 

I think the owner of the company that produces this inferior food, and charges top dollar for it, should get an award for what he is doing. It's like selling a Big Mac for $15.....[]

Mrs. Tucker's Lard  is what my grandma and my Mom used.  Came in a  yellow & blue cardboard box.  Mom was thrilled when she finally started getting Crisco in a can. 
I honestly don't have any idea if lard is any worse for dogs than any other fat...or any better for that matter.  Talk of lard just brought back old memories of Mom cooking with it.

I remember my mother cooking with lard.  She died at 56.

Regardless of whether lard is or isn't healthy, how expensive could those ingredients be that 35 pounds of the food costs $130.

Regardless of whether lard is or isn't healthy, how expensive could those ingredients be that 35 pounds of the food costs $130.

 
what?  are you kidding?  Are you saying THAT is the price of the food?[]   I haven't ever looked them up.  

I remember my mother cooking with lard. She died at 56.

 
My grandma did too.. and while it tasted FANTASTIC... both she and my granfather died of heart disease in their early 70's.

ORIGINAL: jjsmom06

Regardless of whether lard is or isn't healthy, how expensive could those ingredients be that 35 pounds of the food costs $130.

what?  are you kidding?  Are you saying THAT is the price of the food?[]   I haven't ever looked them up.  

Yup, check Sooner's thread on Abady.

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus

Regardless of whether lard is or isn't healthy, how expensive could those ingredients be that 35 pounds of the food costs $130.

 
Knowing my mother, I imagine she cooked with lard for two reasons.  One, because that is what her mother used and two, because it was cheap.

Yup, check Sooner's thread on Abady.

 
[]HOLY CRAP!  I am stunned! And this is from a person who drives out of her way to pay $66 for 33 pounds of Timberwolf Lamb and Apples.  I cannot believe that... please tell me you only fed like a 5th of what you normally would with other foods... [8|]

ORIGINAL: Stacita  Are you suggesting that lard is better for my dogs than wild salmon oil?

 
Nope.  I wouldn't do that to you.  In what I think to be a fair comparison you have to go ingredient for ingredient.
Any typical ingredients list I think contains a from of fat.  It may say Chicken Fat, Poultry Fat, Beef Fat, or simply Animal Fat.
Unless one is avoiding fats entirely in the dogs food for whatever reason, it is safe to assume a commercial ration contains one of the fats listed above.  I think we already mentioned the reason why one rarely sees Pork Fat in dog food.  If it makes one feel better knowing  it is not in there because it leads to arterial sclerosis in humans, then maybe it seems perfect.  I tend to think it is not in most foods because of it's price.  So, getting back to comparison, a fair comparison is Pork Fat up against the four land-based common fat ingredients mentioned prior (chicken, poultry, beef, and animal).
 
Salmon Oil I think to be fair should can be compared to other fish-based oils such as an ingredient like Menhaden Fish Oil (herring oil) which is some of the Abady formulas.  Plant-based oils to be fair should be compared only other plant-based oils. 
 
For those reasons, I wouldn't compare Pork Fat to the Salmon Oil or suggest one is better than the other.
 
Charlie
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From the dog food project.. Ingredients to avoid list

"
Lard AAFCO: The rendered fat of swine. Very low in linoleic acid but very attractive to pets, used to make poor quality food more appealing. Few nutritional benefits. "

I remember my mother cooking with lard.  She died at 56.

 
Honestly....so did mine...and my two grandmas.   Really,,,seriously.... my mom died at 63 because she got hit by a car walking across the street...but my two grandmas lived to be quite old...in fact my moms mom died about 91.   They not only cooked in lard ( I don't ever remember a bottle of Crisco oil around my house ) they baked a ton of things every saturday and used lard for making.    I think it was cheap back then though. When I was first married I used it a lot too even though it was harder to get then walking down the salad oil isle at the grocery store.
 
I do find it upsetting that some people feel they must defend Abady while others feel they must knock it  totally.
It is expensive..probably much more expensive than it should be or has to be....I know I looked into purchasing it some years ago for Ollie.  But I can't see paying so much money for it.

I didn't bring up that my grandma who cooked with lard--fried her eggs in butter, tho--died 4 months short of her 100th birthday.  Her son, muy dad, died at 58 of botched surgery, but his heart and lungs were so good  and strong he lived 2 days after they said he wouldn't last an hour  And he was a 2 pack a day smoker also.  My grandpa died of heart attack at age 78.  he was also a 2 pack a day smoker and had worked long and hard as a farmer.
 
But I have no desire to cook with lard. However, I really have no idea if it is that bad or that good for dogs. But it seems to me that it works very well for some dogs, maybe not so good for others.