Eukanuba?

Some people love it.... I consider it to be a midgrade food.

Just a question- why do you make your font so small? It's kind of hard to read. []

Royal Canin has done the breed-specific food for a long time now. I thought THEY were just using a gimmick but since then I've used a couple of different formulas for different things and they worked well. It's kind of Royal Canin's "niche."

My question now would be has Eukanuba really put the time and thought into their breed specific formulas that RC has, or are they just gunning for RCs niche?

ORIGINAL: redlegos

I just heard about it a week or so ago.. I'm not sure how long the food has been out but it has individual types of food for each breed of dog. It was in my Dog Fancy magazine this month so I thought i'd bring it up. In the back breeder section I seen about 15+ ads that said "we feed and reccomend Eukanuba". I'm not too good at reading and understanding the ingredients but I think the ones in Canidae are better. It's the Iam's company ..I don't trust them myself so I feel personally they are just out to make money. What are all your thoughts on this ..do any of you reccomend it?

Ingredients --
Chicken, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Chicken Fat (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Fish Meal, Natural Chicken Flavor, Brewers Rice, Dried Beet Pulp (Sugar Removed), Dried Egg Product, Fish Oil (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Fructooligosaccharides, Vitamins [Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (Source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid], Choline Chloride, Minerals [Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate], DL-Methionine, Marigold, Rosemary Extract.

See how many "Ingredients to avoid" from this list are in the Eukanuba.  I see quite a few.  You would be much better off with a quality food. 

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I read that Hill's is also going to start coming out with breed specific foods.  I actually think there is some logic to the concept, but the real purpose is to fill up more space on the store shelves. I've checked out the Dachshund formulas for Euk and RC out of curiosity and I thought the Euk looked better although I look a food to contain more muscle meat and less by product. The RC contained both Corn Gluten and Wheat Gluten so not something I would consider. 

Since hte recall, I have learned my lesson with Eukanuba and Iams.  I have had to deal with them presonnally on the recall and I will avoid them all together.  There is better food out the for breed specific.  To me, the breed specific  isjust a gimmick.
 
Good news is that I should be receiving a check from Iams to cover  my vet bill from the recall.

ORIGINAL: redlegos

I just heard about it a week or so ago.. I'm not sure how long the food has been out but it has individual types of food for each breed of dog. It was in my Dog Fancy magazine this month so I thought i'd bring it up. In the back breeder section I seen about 15+ ads that said "we feed and reccomend Eukanuba". I'm not too good at reading and understanding the ingredients but I think the ones in Canidae are better. It's the Iam's company ..I don't trust them myself so I feel personally they are just out to make money. What are all your thoughts on this ..do any of you reccomend it?

Ingredients --
Chicken, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Chicken Fat (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Fish Meal, Natural Chicken Flavor, Brewers Rice, Dried Beet Pulp (Sugar Removed), Dried Egg Product, Fish Oil (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Fructooligosaccharides, Vitamins [Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (Source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid], Choline Chloride, Minerals [Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate], DL-Methionine, Marigold, Rosemary Extract.

 
 
I agree with you.  In my opinion, Canidae has better ingredients..
(Here is the ingredient list from Canidae's website)
Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.

When we first got our puppy, we didn't know much about pet food (other than those sold at Petsmart and Petco) and were looking at Eukanuba.  We avoided it after we learned about ingredients, the fact that corn gives our lab puppy silent but deadly gas...lol, and wheat makes him itch all over.   With Canidae, he hasn't had any gas problem (at least I can't smell it) and overall, pretty spunky.
 
 

I actually like Eukanuba the best (the majority of the formulas) compared to it's competitors in the "big chain" stores like Petco and PetSmart.  The reason is they ACTUALLY have a majority of animal-protein sources in their dog formulas (and their cat foods are some of the best  because of the same reason).  They also don't contain any plant-protein fractions in their dry food (the only thing I hate about RC).  They list all nutrient values and on their site even go as far as to say the protein vs carbohydrate breakdown %, so there are no surpises.  Some of the holistic companies don't even do that unless you ask in some cases. 

I actually put Wolfie on Eukanuba small breed adult because he started losing weight on Canidae.  It has 457kcal/cup, 28% protein and 18% fat which is honestly some of the best "values" I have seen regarding what small breeds need.  I find it interesting that Canidae has more kcals/cup (although lower in protein and fat) but when Wolfie eats the same amount of each, he gains more lean weight on Eukanuba.  

They don't have their "breed specific" formulas on the site yet, so I haven't looked at them in detail.  If they have the same idea as RC does, then it does have some logic to it.  No, I don't think breed specific formulas are necessary, but they ARE beneficial to the breed they are labeled for (ex: high protien/fat for a small breed or terrier or high protein/low fat for a breed prone to weight gain, etc etc).  Since the public isn't well versed on dog nutrition, at least they are more likely to buy a food that is more suited to their dog.  []

ORIGINAL: papillon806

I actually like Eukanuba the best (the majority of the formulas) compared to it's competitors in the "big chain" stores like Petco and PetSmart. 

I agree except that Petsmart has started carrying ByNature Organics and Avoderm. I think both of those are superior to Eukanuba.

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus

ORIGINAL: papillon806

I actually like Eukanuba the best (the majority of the formulas) compared to it's competitors in the "big chain" stores like Petco and PetSmart. 

I agree except that Petsmart has started carrying ByNature Organics and Avoderm. I think both of those are superior to Eukanuba.

And actually since you were looking for a tasty food, try By Nature Organic.  It's tested to be one of the tastiest on the market.  It's an all life stages too.

I primarily trust Euk because they were one of the first "premium" foods and have generally been on the cutting edge of nutrition trends like large breed foods and balancing ofas. Euk been used by various members of my family for over 15 years with great results. We started using because it was one of the best on the market at the time, and most of my family members continue to use it because they have had such great results. There are better foods ingredient-wise that have becaome more widely available in recent years, but Euk still has proven itself over time for us. I use canidae now because it finally became available in my area in reccent years, but I wouldn't hesitate to feed Euk again.

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus

ORIGINAL: papillon806

I actually like Eukanuba the best (the majority of the formulas) compared to it's competitors in the "big chain" stores like Petco and PetSmart.

I agree except that Petsmart has started carrying ByNature Organics and Avoderm. I think both of those are superior to Eukanuba.

By Nature and Avoderm aren't available at all Petsmarts yet. I haven't seen any sign of them in any of the five stores in Oklahoma City.

Just a question- why do you make your font so small? It's kind of hard to read.

I'm so glad someone has brought this up! I thought it was my computer.. Redlegos i need a magnifying glass to read your posts []

I know you have really fussy eaters,so a midgrade food might have to be the way to go for you.

There was a new Eukanuba fish formula for sensitive skin or stomach at the Petco the other day.  I looked at the ingredients and they didn't look bad at all.  You might want to check that out if you can find it.  It was ocean fish as the first ingredient. 
Here they are from the website--it's the sensitive skin formula, it's new.

Ingredients--
Ocean Fish, Brewers Rice, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Fish Meal (source of fish oil), Ground Whole Grain Barley, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Egg Product, Fish Digest, Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), DL-Methionine.

Just a question- why do you make your font so small? It's kind of hard to read.

I'm so glad someone has brought this up! I thought it was my computer.. Redlegos i need a magnifying glass to read your posts

I know you have really fussy eaters,so a midgrade food might have to be the way to go for you.

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About the migrade food - what do you mean? Does that mean they will like it? Sorry I am a little dumb when it comes to dog food. Someone reccomended trying Eagle Pack Chicken Holistic, is that a bad idea? [/font]