Natural Balance Pulling Venison Dry Dog Formula

    • Bronze
    I recently just started feeding my dog the Natural Balance wet Venison and Brown Rice, which I just add to her dry food. She had horrible diarrhea last night and this morning. This morning I took her off of the wet food and fed her just the dry food and she seems better. Anyone think that I should be concerned with the behavior, or is it more likely a change of food? Although she did get through almost half of the can before this diarrhea started, as she only gets about 4 tablespoons a day and there's just a little less then half the can left. Any ideas?
    • Gold Top Dog
    Sandra--I've been taking looking into the FDA website every day myself.  I notice a lot of info there that's not on the news.  I think the Menu recall is so fresh that it's going to make a big difference right now.  The Diamond/Menu recalls are too far apart for it to still be right in Menu's mind what happened to them.  That to me is just the way things are, when something just happens it's a big deal, then the excitement dies down.  We are talking about weeks apart from this to Menu, rather than years like it is since the Diamond recall. 
     
    But, I can still see why your skeptical.  Are you also skeptical about Purina?  I'm just asking because it seemed to me that when you posted the e-mails they sent you you were pretty confident in that they were telling the whole story.  Why would Natural Balance doing this be different to you?  I'm not trying to get you upset just wondering.  If it's something against the "holistic" companies vs big names, or??
     
    Jennifer---How big is your dog?  What did you switch from? 
    • Bronze
    28 pound cocker spaniel.... we switched from Pedigree soft food then switched to Natural Balance a few weeks ago but this is the first can of the Venison and Brown Rice... she got about 3/4 of the way through it over the last few days... like i said, she got bad diarrhea last night so I fed her just hard food this morning and tonight... took her for a walk an hour or two ago and the stool was semi-solid. She has been drinking more water too...
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: jenniferlyn

    28 pound cocker spaniel.... we switched from Pedigree soft food then switched to Natural Balance a few weeks ago but this is the first can of the Venison and Brown Rice... she got about 3/4 of the way through it over the last few days... like i said, she got bad diarrhea last night so I fed her just hard food this morning and tonight... took her for a walk an hour or two ago and the stool was semi-solid. She has been drinking more water too...


    The problem is only supposed to be in the dry food, if it is a problem at all.  Your dog sounds like it might have been upset by the sudden food switch. 


    • Gold Top Dog
    Yes, I agree with Bob.  And, then you also went from one level of quality to another which could be causing the issue.  You want to cut back because you've got a lot more bang for you scoop in the Natural Balance.  Just curious, why did you pick Venison?? 
    • Bronze
    No real reason why I chose it. I bought 3 different types of their wet food and thought i'd try all 3 and she got through the other 2 just fine.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Maybe that particular meat just didn't agree with her.  It sometimes takes a couple of feedings or so for things to pop up too.  I'd just keep an eye on the recall and of course, stop feeding it if it's giving her a problem regardless.  
     
    Welcome to the board too!  Do you have any pictures of your dog posted anywhere?? 
     
    Lori[:)]
    • Bronze
    Thanks for all your suggestions and information!

    This is my favorite picture of Jessie. She looks so happy!

    • Gold Top Dog
    But, I can still see why your skeptical. Are you also skeptical about Purina? I'm just asking because it seemed to me that when you posted the e-mails they sent you you were pretty confident in that they were telling the whole story. Why would Natural Balance doing this be different to you? I'm not trying to get you upset just wondering. If it's something against the "holistic" companies vs big names, or??

     
    I posted those e-mails from Purina because I thought the idea was to post any and everything we had information on....any company, any food.  I don't think i said that purina was honest to the core, that we could believe every word they said.  I just posted what they said.  And no, I do not fully trust any company to be totally honest when it comes to $$$$$$$.  And that is everything from dog food makers to drug makers to automobile makers.
     
    This is a little OT, but is the start of my reason for distrust.  My dad had  what I thought was mini strokes, the doctor diagnosed him as hyper ventilating and told him to breath in a paper bag when he felt a spell coming on.  Well, he passed out at work, was taken to the hospital--this in Austin, Texas--and it took a WEEK to diagnosis--guess what, mini strokes caused when small pieces of a clot in his neck broke off.  They messed around thinning and thickening his blood and then took him into surgery AS PLANNED with his BP off the scale and he had a massive stroke during surgery.  The the next two weeks he was in ICU we were lied to--no he didn't have pneumoania, but my brother got his chart and it was there on the chart--pnemonia.    That was just one of many lies we were told.  My dad died after 2 weeks in ICU, he was 58 years old.  They were covering their butts.  He should have never gone into surgery with his BP like that, but it was scheduled, and they were going to do it regardless.  Then the lies to cover their butts.  We should have sued, but we didn't.
     
    Over the years there have been lots of things that have caused me to be so darn skeptical of any company when it comes to losing money for their stock holders, owners, etc. Some were minor--like bumper to bumper coverage on new car, a month later the trunk lock breaks--it isn't part of the bumper to bumper coverage.--my DIL new car.  Bumper to Bumper coverage and the hidden antenna won't come up when car started.  The motor is covered, but this part isn't and since it can't be replaced, the entire motor has to be replaced, but since this part isn't covered, then my brother had to pay for new motor.  Was double talk as far as he was concerned.  Just so many little things like that.
     
    I use to believe everything i was told, that i read, etc, but in my old age i no longer do when it comes to companies, any of them.  iI do believe people til i catch them in a lie, and for ever after I tend to doubt what they say unless i already know it is true.  I am not talking about a mistake, but an out and out lie that they know is a lie.
    • Gold Top Dog
    That is a beautiful dog and she does look happy indeed.
    • Gold Top Dog
    jennifer..You're dog is adorable...I do think that if you feel you're dog isn't doing well on the venison or you are feeling uneasy feeding it...change to something else till all this blows over...Alway's better to be safe than sorry
    • Gold Top Dog
    OMG--That Jessie is sooooo adorable.  What a cute kid!
     
    Sandra---I agree with you I think we wanted any and all info out there on the recall. 
     
    I was just asking because maybe I mis interpreted your posts about the Purina e-mails but it seemed to me they had an air of "see Purina sent this to ME, without me asking THEM".  I guess I got the impression that you were in not so many words saying look how upfront they are with us.  That did come in the middle of a lot of posters trying to get info and posting that some of the companies weren't giving up the info too freely.  Maybe it was me misreading you. . .either way I hope I didn't upset you. 
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    I don't even know how i got on that mailing list except i had sent them an e-mail one time asking a question and they sent a phone number where i could call and talk to someone direct.  They did ask for my address to send coupons and i guess they got my e-mail address from when i sent them one.  But they did send the e-mails without my asking.  I thought the 2ed one the most important because they said that food WAS MADE in one of their own plants, which showed that the bad gluten had gone to  places other than Menu.  I figured it could have gone to any  manufacturer who used wheat gluten.

    I figured everyone should be on the lookout for products containing gluten, not just products from menu.  It just seemed to me the thing to do was copy and paste and there would be no changing of words or leaving anything out.  It was as I got it.
     
     
    EDITED  I don't think any company is above getting bad supplies, dog food or human food makers.  The thing is to come clean at once and don't try to rake in a few $$$$ before being open about it.  BUT they don't need to jump the gun with one or two reports either.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I figured everyone should be on the lookout for products containing gluten, not just products from menu.  It just seemed to me the thing to do was copy and paste and there would be no changing of words or leaving anything out.  It was as I got it.

     
    I agree 100%. Actually right now,,,I am reading the ingredient list on anything I buy for Bubby,,she is not getting wheat ANYTHING!  Of course, I laugh when I say I am probably going to die from eating my wheat bread,,,but my dog is not getting wheat anything right now.
     
    And may I say I also agree with you about not trusting any doctor or vet,,,or anyone 100%  Unfortunately...its all about money!   It might not start out that way,,but eventually everyone has someone to answer to.  Everyone has to think about covering their butts,,whether it be the doctor, vet, car company etc.   Its a shame what happened to your Dad....     Right now I keep asking DH what the doctor said about this or that..as he is having a few problems after surgery. He keeps saying things like "I didn't ask."  I keep telling him that I don't know how he could put his life in someones hands and not even ask them what they are doing,,or thinking. 
    • Puppy
    Well, I just got an email this morning about Natural Balance.  I'm beyond sick about this.  I have a dog with food allergies and this is the only food that he does well on.  I feed my dog the Duck and Potato formula (both dogs actually) and they both threw up this weekend.  One of my dogs is now peeing 5 times every time he goes outside which he never did before and he has diarrhea.  He's also rather lethargic.  I'm making a vet appointment but I'm not happy.  It could just be a coincidence, but my cat also occasionally nibbles on the dog food and he threw up this weekend.  I switched to Fish and Sweet Potato this morning.

    I'm at my wits end with this food scare.