Amaranth

• chewbecca Posted : 9/8/2006 2:54:10 PM Well, IMO, I wouldn't discard the food or anything like that. Email Carol about it. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Leasa McIntyre Posted : 9/13/2006 2:57:44 PM Did you all know that glucosamine is not an approved animal feed additive? It is not approved by the FDA or by AAFCO. How many of you are feeding foods that contain glucosamine? Taurine was just recently approved for use in dog food. As early as last year, it was considered an unapproved feed additive for dog foods. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• sooner Posted : 9/13/2006 3:23:26 PM Yes but... from the letter in the original post, "Amaranth grain is not an approved food additive, GRAS substance, or defined in the AAFCO OP.  At this time, amaranth grain is considered an unapproved food additive when used in animal feed” And from the [linkhttp://www.fda.gov/cvm/petfoodflier.html]FDA Regulation of Pet Food[/link] ...deem food unsafe and adulterated if it contains an unapproved food additive...substances added to food that qualified scientists generally recognize as safe (GRAS) under the conditions of the intended use are not "food additives" and as such are exempt... I think that glucosamine is generally recognized as safe. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• sooner Posted : 9/13/2006 3:29:24 PM And about Timberwolf and amaranth: I e-mailed Carol and she did confirm that amaranth was removed last year, around June 2005, it was removed from their website in March 2006, but they had 500,000 bags to use up and they have not used them all yet. She did say that their next bag order will not have amaranth listed. ETA: Here's her e-mail... she didn't list dates, I got those from the previous communications I've had regarding this We used to use Amaranth in the herb formula, but as of last year we discontinued the use.   However, we had close to 500,000 bags that had to be used up before we could get it off the packaging.  The news bags we have ordered do not have amaranth listed.   The changes were not listed on the website until it was changed because of an error in programming. It was actually removed from the site long before the site was changed, but long after it was removed from the product... Sorry, but I really don't like they way they do things [8|] 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Leasa McIntyre Posted : 9/13/2006 3:42:53 PM I don't believe glucosamine is GRAS. This is the most recent thing I could find on the matter, but I don't think anything has changed:   [linkhttp://www.vetpracticenews.com/vpn/detail.aspx?aid=12215&cid=3878&search]http://www.vetpracticenews.com/vpn/detail.aspx?aid=12215&cid=3878&search[/link]=   Monday, October 29, 2001 The U.S. Food and Drug Administration's Center for Veterinary Medicine declared glucosamine hydrochloride and chondroitin sulfate as not Generally Regarded As Safe (GRAS) for use in pet foods and dietary supplements. The declaration came in a letter from Dr. William Burkholder, the agency's pet food specialist, to Nancy Cook of the Pet Food Institute in response to PFI's request for a determination of the widely used ingredients. The underlying message is that the FDA considers products containing these ingredients as subject to regulatory action, including seizure from retail shelves. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• sooner Posted : 9/13/2006 4:07:59 PM I can't find anything different regarding pets, only [linkhttp://www.doctordog.com/DrdogNewsletter/glucochon.html]this[/link] Instead they are considered either dietary supplements or neutraceuticals. As such they are generally regarded as safe (GRAS), and need little documentation to be sold as over the counter supplements. But it has nothing to do with being a food additive. Maybe brittman will post again in this thread, since he is Eagle Pack's nutritionist and they use glucosamine in some of their foods. ETA: Ok, after doing a little more reading on it I think I understand... glucosamine is not GRAS as a drug, and cannot have claims made such as - will cure joint problems, but without the 'drug' label it is considered a supplement and as such is labeled a nutraceutical, and the FDA considers nutraceuticals of low regulatory significance, which may explain why so many companies use it. Still doesn't make it right though. This is interesting, glad you mentioned it. Glucosamine is GRAS for humans though. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Leasa McIntyre Posted : 9/13/2006 5:06:21 PM Yes, it is considered very low on their priority list. Most state departments of agriculture are not taking action against companies including glucosamine in their foods. This includes states like Texas, that are normally very strict. It is still not approved though. I was told by an FDA consultant that even though amaranth is not an approved animal feed additive it was considered a low regulatory priority because it is generally considered safe, for lack of a better phrase. I do not mean to say it is GRAS.   Can someone please point me to some information on amaranth that shows it to be dangerous? I had never heard this before and am very interested. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• sooner Posted : 9/13/2006 7:06:39 PM Oh! *light bulb* That must be why Eagle Pack (and maybe some other companies as well) cannot sell some of their products in Texas.   I haven't done a ton of reading on amaranth, but the only things I've seen about it being 'dangerous' are in the letter that started this thread. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• loveBostons! Posted : 8/22/2011 10:12:10 PM I know this is a very old thread, but I signed up to the forum to thank you for all the research you did (found the post through google). I have a bunch of cooked amaranth to use up but I will NOT be feeding it to my dogs. Only I will be eating it for breakfast and my dogs will have oatmeal as usual. Cooked especially for them now! Just in case anyone is concerned, it's plain oatmeal, no salt, no sugar / fake sugar and they only have a tiny bit (it gets our guy to take medicine that helps him eat real dog food later in the day). Thanks again!! 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login