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Boiling water over kibble?

Edie

Posted : 1/22/2007 8:18:20 PM

I have read in many places that pouring boiling water water over kibble should be avoided because it kills the vits/mins and probiotics if the kibble has any in it.But i cant seem to find that info NOW!when i need it.I read so much stuff from different places,i forget where it is i have read it [8|]

I know the Great dane lady mentions this,but has anyone any info or links on why this should be avoided?

ronross

Posted : 1/22/2007 9:08:45 PM

ORIGINAL: Edie

I have read in many places that pouring boiling water water over kibble should be avoided because it kills the vits/mins and probiotics if the kibble has any in it.But i cant seem to find that info NOW!when i need it.I read so much stuff from different places,i forget where it is i have read it [8|]

I know the Great dane lady mentions this,but has anyone any info or links on why this should be avoided?

Better foods like Eagle Pack, which Linda recommends, are sprayed with live digestive enzymes and pro-biotics after they are extruded (cooked). This is important to provide some living food to an otherwise *very* processed product. Any temperature higher than room temperature will cook these delicate micro-creatures. So while Linda recommends that dogs get a lot of moisture from their food so as to avoid binging at the water bowl, she insists the water, broth, etc. be tepid so as to protect the food value of the kibble.

Ron

dyan

Posted : 1/22/2007 9:16:38 PM

From Linda Arndt:
As for temperature of water…NO hot water..use tepid temperature (room temp) so it does not destroy the nutrients and probiotics that are on the food. Likewise do NOT microwave your dogs food, it will also destroy the composition of some of the nutrients. For an adult Dane I use ¾ - 1 cup of water, soup or low sodium broth to 3 cups kibble, just to give you an idea.

But why would anyone want to add BOILING water?

Lilea Storm

Posted : 1/22/2007 9:44:44 PM

I have been adding hot tap water to my dogs food because I mix kibble with canned food and the canned food is cold from the refrigerater. No one likes eating cold food all the time. I didn't know that warming it with water would harm the nutrients?

GreytPeke

Posted : 1/22/2007 9:57:13 PM

Heat kills most organisms, be it in the form of a flame or hot water. As with anything, always keep everything in moderation. I don't see a point in pouring boiling water over kibble, but I can certainly understand why one would want to warm up refridgerated food. In that case, I would suggest lukewarm water as was stated before.

Edie

Posted : 1/22/2007 10:30:07 PM

But why would anyone want to add BOILING water?

To soften the kibble i guess,they say cold water doesnt work?? Good question though,i'll find out and get back to you...

Lilea Storm

Posted : 1/22/2007 11:54:17 PM

ORIGINAL: GreytPeke

Heat kills most organisms, be it in the form of a flame or hot water. As with anything, always keep everything in moderation. I don't see a point in pouring boiling water over kibble, but I can certainly understand why one would want to warm up refridgerated food. In that case, I would suggest lukewarm water as was stated before.

The hot water brings the food to lukewarm temp, I can't believe that bringing food to lukewarm would destroy nutrients. There wouldn't really be any point to adding lukewarm water because the food would still be cold.

dyan

Posted : 1/23/2007 8:04:33 AM

Okay,, so I get why you put on hot water, just to warm up their food a bit. But I still wouldn't do it. I cook meat up and add veggies, a lot of times baby food veggies and put it in the fridge for storing. We put it on Bubbys food right out of the fridge. But funny, when I put a raw egg on every morning I do put it in the mircro wave for 20 seconds on low, just to take the chill off.
DH feeds her in the evening,,,but if I did, I would probably put the meat only in the microwave, rather than adding hot water to her whole bowl of food.
I don't really think even adding boiling water is going to kill organisms, do you?? I mean we used to have to boil nipples (gee, do they still do that sort of thing now adays??) for several minutes when making up baby formula.

jessies_mom

Posted : 1/23/2007 9:03:23 AM

I have been adding hot tap water to my dogs food because I mix kibble with canned food and the canned food is cold from the refrigerater. No one likes eating cold food all the time. I didn't know that warming it with water would harm the nutrients?

I nuke the canned food for a few seconds till it's luke warm before mixing it in Jessie's kibble. If you a feed a food like Eagle Pack or Nature's Variety then heat will kill the probiotics; these companies spray them on after the kibble is cooked for that reason.

shamrockmommy

Posted : 1/23/2007 9:58:58 AM

So just add some warm water from the tap to the kibble/canned let it set for a bit and then feed. no biggie. It's what I do.

brookcove

Posted : 1/23/2007 11:08:36 AM

Use lukewarm water to add some moisture to dry food. I do it to ensure as much fluid consumption as possible, especially when travelling. I think the hotter the water the more food is dissolved in it, producing that yummy-looking "gravy". But there's no nutritional benefit to this other than the water. A food that has no probiotic coating won't be harmed by hot water though.

Instead of using very hot water, I add a few tablespoons of canned green tripe and slightly warm water. Ben gets some kind of canned meat in his kibble also. This produces a slurry that is both more attractive and also more nutrionally valuable.

chelsea_b

Posted : 1/23/2007 11:13:02 AM

I don't really think even adding boiling water is going to kill organisms, do you?? I mean we used to have to boil nipples (gee, do they still do that sort of thing now adays??) for several minutes when making up baby formula.

Yes, you boil nipples..to kill organisms! [

] The probiotics I have need to be kept in the fridge, because even sitting at room temperature for long will kill them. So yes, hot or boiling water will kill them. Plus a lot of vitamins are heat sensitive, so it'll screw up any foods that have vitamins added after cooking (like Nature's Variety's "bio-coating"). Here's what I would do for the case of cold canned food. Just add boiling water to the canned before putting it in kibble. The canned can't have anything added after cooking, so there's no danger of destroying or damaging nutrients, and if it really does just make it lukewarm, it won't damage the kibble.

Lilea Storm

Posted : 1/23/2007 11:42:18 AM

I would not use the microwave for heating up food. After finding out that the microwave changes food into cancer causing agents and unidentifiable masses. It isn't even food anymore when you take it out. Even 20 seconds is enough to do damage. I know they are terribly convenient but I threw out my microwave a year ago, I won't feed that crap to myself, my kids, or my pets.
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dyan

Posted : 1/23/2007 2:50:49 PM

Yes, you boil nipples..to kill organisms! [] The probiotics I have need to be kept in the fridge, because even sitting at room temperature for long will kill them. So yes, hot or boiling water will kill them

But wait, you have to boil nipples for a few minutes or so,,that is a lot different then adding boiling water to your dog food, is it not?

ottoluv

Posted : 1/23/2007 4:20:30 PM

I would not use the microwave for heating up food. After finding out that the microwave changes food into cancer causing agents and unidentifiable masses.

This has never been proven by reputable sceince. There are no studies to back up this claim, the "studies" on that page are not really studies at all if you actually read them. None are long term, prosepcetive, randomized or in peer reviewed journals. Those web pages also are not reputable sceintific sources of information. Obviously if you don't want to use a microwave that's fine the food usually tastes like crap compared to regular cookin

, but you are NOT going to get cancer by eating food cooked in it.