Lite diets??

    • Gold Top Dog
    I have seen many posts (on the old board, mostly) where new people have posted saying they feed their dog a supermarket kibble and Glenda and others have gently and politely educated them about better quality kibbles without talking down to them or making them feel bad.  It is possible (and preferrable) to educate people this way- young and old.  It is how people communicate in a polite society.  I have to question the motives of the rude posters.  I don't think they are as interested in helping people or their dogs as they are in pumping up their own egos by showing how much smarter they are than anyone else.  I really think they have self esteem issues that they need to work out...
     
    Fire away, rude people.  Its my turn to take some heat.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I don't think you'll need to worry about that any more
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    {Please correct me if i'm wrong but from what i've gleaned off of your posts your dogs have had a myriad of health problems,have you ever thought the food could be contributing to this.Could your dog who died of the proheart injection perhaps survived had his immune system been stronger? Thats another thing these types of food denegrate,the immune system,good solid nutrition is so important when it comes to this all important function.) ---quote from Christine

    Ozzie, you must not have read my posts.  My Buck is is 11 years old.  Outside of welness and dental and Vax, his only visits to the vet has been for rattle snake bit to the face, reaction to ground wasp sting on the lip,  remove a skintag from each elbow, a year ago for his first hotspot ever.  He has NEVER been in for any kind of illness or real ailment.  Low thyroid was discovered a year ago when he had his full blood panel.  He has also had a melanoma removed from his lip.  I do not believe that feeding him Purina caused the snake to bit him, his reaction to the wasp sting, his skin tags, his hot spot, nor the melanoma on his lip.  His blood panel was perfect last time and he is due another in about a month.  He only walks when on leash--trots the rest of the time.  He chases and often catches squirrels.  I would like to know what all his "health problems" are considering he is 11.
     
    Honey is 4, we have had her three years and she was heartworm postitive when we got her.  We had her treated and she has not had a single prolblem or ailment since.  Her only visits to the vet have been her wellness and vax.  I would like to know what all her "health problems are".  Oh, I did forget, a year ago she ate some rat poison that accidently got knocked out of the attic when we were taking some stuff out.  That is the only place we put poison because of dogs, cat and grandkids.  We saw her throw up and i knew what that green stuff was immediately, called the vet, got her right in, they gave her something to make her throw up more, gave her Vitamin K injections, and a 50 day supply of Vitamin k pills.  AFter the pills were gone, we had the test done for blood clotting factor and she was fine. However, brand of dog food had nothing to do with her eating the poison or her recovering with no problem.
     
    KayCee, well she has cost us. But not for one second do I think feeding her Purina caused her to have luxating patellas that required surgery, that one bad ear infection (only one in 6 1/2 years does not mean it  was brought on by Purina ), that  one day illness that we had all the blood work and test done for and it turned out to be a virus, which i learned on my dog boards many dogs had, and some were sick for more than one day.  Her allergies to fleas and Bermuda grass have nothing to do with dog food. She did have a severe reaction to her 2ed set of annuals  and my vet feels it was the lepto part.  But seeing as how  many dogs, no matter what they are feed, have reactions to vax, I don't believe Purina had anything to do with it. But  at any rate, by no means would I call this a myriad of health problems.  So I have no idea where you got the idea i had dogs with all kinds of health problems.
     
    And as for Hunter.  No, I know ;Proheart would have killed him regardless of what feed he was on.  We will never know for sure what went wrong that it killed so many dogs and caused so many reactions, some that require treatment for the rest of their lives.  But many of us had believed that in some cases, the time release spheres all released at the same time, more or less causing an over dose.  Then  in early 2004 we learned that some batchs that had been put on the market starting in July 2003  (Hunter got his Aug. 28, 2003) had been recalled due to "problems with the time release (whatever they called it) spheres."  But there was no explination as to what the problem was.  We that had always believed that is what happen were more convinced than ever after the recall.  Oh, Hunter also had liver damage, which was also another leading cause of death.  Many dogs had 2-3 of the reactions.  Hunter fought so hard to live, but he could not beat both the AIHA and liver damage.  When his HCT dropped to 9.7 my vet said he should have been dead.  But he wasn't.  My vet's opinion is that he wanted to live for me.  And for the record, just a couple of weeks ago my vet and I went over Hunter's record because Fort Dodge had reported his health status as FAIR to the FDA  (of course, Fort Dodge did a lot of underhanded stuff).  I was upset when i got the evaluation  from the FDA and found what Fort Dodge had to say.
     
    Anyway, Hunter had just turned 4 when he died.  My vet and I went over his record page by page.  Hunter had never been in for any kind of illness.  he had a a birthmark removed from his side (about the size of a pencil earser) because he had made it bleed a couple of times scratching.  He had been in for a pulled muscle in his shoulder and for a knot on his leg (never did know what he ran into to cause it) and a couple of times early on for hot spots.  It was noted after each visit that he was in very good condition, maintained his weight between 77 nd 79 pounds his entire adult life--until he got that ProHeart6 injection. 
     
    True, I am set in a lot of my ways.  I refuse to have a cell phone. They irritate the life out of me--people weaving all over the road while talking on them, walking around in stores talking on them and not paying attention to where they are going (I have been bumped several times by grocery carts because people were not paying attention), going off in church (this happened twice in church Sunday) going off at every second table in resturant.  Everyone i know that SWORE they would never drive and talk on the phone does.  My hubby has one in his rig as pay phones are getting hard to find and he often has to call the plants to get directions, check in with his home terminal, etc.  But he turns it off except when he wants to call home or elsewhere.
     
    But at 58 I leanred to use the computer....I learned to do research on Proheart6, AIHA, etc and then to warm people about it. I finally got a DVD player and have learned how to operate it.  I may have been born in the stone age (LOL) but i am pretty modern in lots of things. I still do the old fashion thing of doing my baking (pastry, biscuits, cookies, cakes) from sratch because i prefer these to boxed, frozen, pre-made slice stuff.
     
    Oh, I don't know how much you know about golden retrievers, but they are prone to fatty tumors, cancer, allergies, hip problems.  Food has nothing in the world to do with those problems.  I am on 6 different goledn boards. There are some that breed and show their dogs, some are in Search & Rescue, some are therapy dogs, a couple are even service dogs, some are in agility. Many are fed top of the line food, many are home cooked only, some a raw, some are on Purina, etc.  I have only been on these boards 2 1/2 years and during that time something like 5 have been lost to cancer, the oldest being 9, the youngest being 2.  Of these i know a couple were on top of the line food (one was on Timberwolf) Almost every week one is having a fatty tumor removed.  A few have had total h ip replacement.  Only one other beside my KayCee has had the luxating patella surgery as that problem is not that common in Goldens.  Right now a number are battling hot spots. And several are on thyroid tabs.
     
    But no matter had I been born in 1945, 1960, l980, l990, i would still feed as i do because it works for my dogs. As long as their blood work and tests are prefect, their coats beautiful, they are full of energy, my vet tells me their are healthy, I have no reason to change.  A thought just came to mind---What is one man's junk is another man's treasure.  Maybe  "junk" food is just what my dogs need.
     
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    When I was younger and ignorant, I tried Eevee on Purina Fit & Trim.  It's total crap.  It dulled her coat and she shed like mad (of course half of that was her corn allergy).  And it didn't solve the weight problem...  >X.x;<
     
    Anyway, just speaking from personal experience here.  I think it's crap.
    • Gold Top Dog
    It was Science Diet that got the weight of KayCee, Fit and Trim keeping it off.  Same with Honey and both have beautiful coats--but neither are allergic to corn.
    • Gold Top Dog
    When I was younger and ignorant, I tried Eevee on Purina Fit & Trim.  It's total crap.  It dulled her coat and she shed like mad (of course half of that was her corn allergy).  And it didn't solve the weight problem...  >X.x;<

    Anyway, just speaking from personal experience here.  I think it's crap.

     
    But seriously, if you were giving food with corn in it (any food with corn) and your dog was allergic to corn then any food that you were feeding would have been crap.      
    • Gold Top Dog
    When I was younger and ignorant, I tried Eevee on Purina Fit & Trim.  It's total crap.  It dulled her coat and she shed like mad (of course half of that was her corn allergy).  And it didn't solve the weight problem...  >X.x;<

    Anyway, just speaking from personal experience here.  I think it's crap.

     
    Maybe it's me, maybe something is wrong with  me, but I can't understand WHY you would post that it's CRAP even if you thought that after JUST reading that Sandra feeds it.  I don't get it, like I said maybe it's me. 
    • Gold Top Dog
    No, its not just you!   Its just the same darn thing!
    • Gold Top Dog
    It has the affect of tag team. When one person quiets down, another chimes in.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Huh?  Excuse me while I clear the sand out of my eyes.......having my head in the sand has that affect...even worse when it gets up my nose.....[:D]
     
    I've said before, I'll say again, I might not like the food, I might not ever consider feeding it, but if it works for your dog, who am I to judge????  Or anyone else.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Oh, Glenda, you are a card!  Or would ostrich be a better choice?   LOL.  I was just reading that ostrich's really do not stick their head in the sand to try to hide.  i never did really believe that anyway.
     
    I tell you, I do not have to stick my head in the sand today to get ears, nose, and eyes full.  Since we only live a coupleof miles from Corpus Chrisit Bay, and all this area is sand, AND we have had less than 3/4" of rain this year, the sand is like talc powder.  I set out some more plants in the flower bed by the patio today and the wind was blowing so darn hard, i think sand all the way from Port Aransas (12 miles to drive, about 5 as the crow flies) was getting into my ears, nose and eyes.  Horrible.  Even the dogs were going around with eyes squintted.
     
    Well, my babies had chicken hearts last night and tonight instead of the usual fish--I usually give fish 2-3 nights in a row, then other meat, then fish 2-3 nights in a row, etc---they are having chicken liver.  My 17 year old cat loves the chicken livers also.   And since I tell all, Pippi is also on Purina dry cat food.  In the mornings she gets 1/2 can of 9 lives chicken, and at night the dry purina and what ever meat I cook for the dogs.  She is 17 years old.  Hopefully I can post a picture of her.
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    I was scared if I edited i would lose the picture.  this was taken in Nov and that is my 4 year old granddaughter carrying Pippi Longstocking around
    • Gold Top Dog
    Well, my cats eat the Walmart brand.  I had them on Innova...they went on a hunger strike.  Tried Chicken Soup...they'd eat it now and then but more often than not, NOT.  They like it, they eat it so the heck with it.  They DO get some of the dogs homecooked at nite tho.  My old guy who was soooo horribly ill decided that HE likes Innova canned and dry, so that's what he gets.  No one else will eat it.
     
    But, the dogs do eat Innova.  And it works for them.  Innova didn't work for Ron's boy...and there have been lots of folks made to feel like LESS cuz it didn't work for their dogs.
     
    Ah well, guess I'll go stick my head back in the sand and see if I can get some in my EARS this time!!
    • Gold Top Dog
    I know I have sand in my eyes, but I can't see a kitty.....
    • Gold Top Dog
    I looked for a kitty to and couldnt 'see it, thought it was just me!