WHAT is with the Purina people?

I went back and read what you posted and that Purian ad and no where did I see where Purina says those things are not good for you dogs, just that particular line doesn't have them.  You are saying they should just stick with one food and one food only.  Because if they make something new it means the old one is not good?  When I make fruit salad for the holidays i always do a side dish with no coconut for on daughter-in-law because she doesn't like coconut, and a side dish with no bananas for my other DIL because she doens't care for bananas.   So what is wrong with me making different side dishes of fruit salad for them for them?  Not a thing--I am catering to their wishes.  Because I leave the coconut and bananas out of those dishes, does that mean the original fruit salad is no good and i am contridicting myself by making the ones MINUS things the girls do not like!  Or what about th3 side dish of sweet potatoe casserole with no nuts in the topping that I make for my neice who doesn't eat nuts.
 
No, just because something new is made leaving out something from the old doesn't mean the old was bad nor the company contridictint itself.  It simply means they are making something some people want.

Has anyone ever though that they may not want or need defending? If the regular posters/purina feeders felt personally attacked or upset by some of the comments do you think they would keep coming back on to every thread that merely uttered the word purina.

 
I personally am not defending Purina or even the person feeding Purina...or any other food for that matter. I am defending their right to their opinion and the right to belong to this forum and talk about the food they feed and why, just like all of the others. Purina or TO,,,or any of the others. I don't feed raw,,,not sure that I believe its best but I would never talk to the people that feed raw,,as some people talk to Sandra or some of the others here.

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ALL commercial food is rubbish for dogs! I wouldn't touch the stuff if you paid me and anyone who feeds commercial foods doesn't love their dog![sm=flamethrower.gif]

That ought to level the playing field. []

Sorry, it was an urge I couldn't resist. It's totally nuts, IMO, to come onto a forum like this that's populated with people who adore their dogs and say that some people aren't taking proper care of their dogs because they don't feed them a premium dog food. Of course everybody here loves their dogs and wouldn't feed them something they weren't thriving on. That's why the dog owners tell all thread is so lengthy, because people change what they feed their dogs if their dogs are having even the slightest of troubles with it. That's testament enough to the devotion of the owners on this forum, and their willingness to feed whatever they find to be best for their bestest canine buds.

For the record, I have abandoned commercial food of all brands because from my own experiences, I've come to the conclusion that feeding homecooked/raw is less risky. Penny abruptly started getting sick on the kibble I was feeding her and I dubiously changed to homecooked to see if it would help. Seeing as it did wonders for her health and I couldn't believe the changes I saw, I won't ever go back to any commercial food. Not because I think it's bad for all dogs, or that some brands cause cancer and other health problems, or because I somehow think I'm a better owner than those feeding their dogs on dog food. It's purely and simply because I hit on something good that works really well and am loathe to even try anything else lest we go back to the problems I was having before. Not worth it.

So, my point is, getting personal about the brand of food someone feeds their dog is rude, insulting and priggish. If Penny hadn't developed problems, I never would have changed foods. Because if it isn't broke, don't fix it. If my vet had preached at me to get my dog off kibble if I wanted her to get well, I probably would have found another vet who didn't treat me so poorly. I'm so glad I'm not doing commercial food anymore, but for those that are, more power to you if you've found a good one that you and your dog like. I don't think anyone has the right to tell people they care less about their dogs based soley on the food they buy for them.

Disclaimer: I haven't followed these threads because you can't even get most of the brands spoken about over here in Australia. So I only have a general gist of what's going on that's been undoubtedly blown out of proportion by all the emotions running high. We actually do have Purina One cat food in this house for our kitties. They get it as a snack or when we've run out of raw food for them because they like it and are hard to please with food.

If I'd posted some of the crap in this thread, I'd be embarrassed to consider myself an ... "adult".

ORIGINAL: dyan

Has anyone ever though that they may not want or need defending? If the regular posters/purina feeders felt personally attacked or upset by some of the comments do you think they would keep coming back on to every thread that merely uttered the word purina.

I personally am not defending Purina or even the person feeding Purina...or any other food for that matter. I am defending their right to their opinion and the right to belong to this forum and talk about the food they feed and why, just like all of the others. Purina or TO,,,or any of the others. I don't feed raw,,,not sure that I believe its best but I would never talk to the people that feed raw,,as some people talk to Sandra or some of the others here.

 
I don't think anyone's saying they can't share their opinions.  However, even if someone politely disagrees with there opinion there are some individuals that get VERY defensive, which is simply silly.  It's just freakin dog food, and it's just a message board--if you are going to give your opinion than you'd better be prepared for others to give theirs.
 
I also think that while there have been some unkind things said to Purina feeders, most of us have had unkind things said to us, and those saying these things are the VAST minority.

Edie, why the heck should anyone have to hide in the closet and not share in discussions because they feed the "wrong" food?
 
I feed Innova most of the time....but there are those that feel that the fruits and cottage cheese, etc, aren't needed....there ARE Innova detractors and I'll be danged if I'm going to let the food that works so well for my dogs be attacked without my commenting.  How is this any different for Purina feeders?  It isn't anyones right to scold these people into feeding what THEY want them to feed.
 
I'm not sure that feeding Purina every day is any worse than feeding a different kibble each and every day and totally throwing a dog into an intestinal tailspin....

But Purina is garbage. All you

 
And that is your opinion. Your opinion and $1.50 will get me a Diet Coke.

Not to mention, several months ago some comments were made by a poster who was banned shortly after

 
And over in the behavioral section, a newer poster referred to established members here who practice +R as "treat-dispensing butlers". The person has since recanted and apologized for the statement but it is still a sore spot for those called such. It is human nature and animal nature to carry a scar from a wound. And that scar is touchy and sensitive for a while. And this particular thread was started because one person was getting tired of hearing people lately who've had good experience with Purina and the like, when, normally, the gist is crap on Purina, and exalt xx-brand. Sandra's thread could have been left alone and it would have died a quiet death. But no, that just can't happen. We all have the right to our opinion and we can't usually stop ourselves from expressing it. Then, there's name-calling by inference. "But it was just an opinion". Judging foods by ingredient list, which is certainly a person's perogative, though, IMHO, doesn't always have anything to do with the actual as fed nutrient profile. If someone's opinion of the ingredient list is low, then they think the food is low and have inferred or outright stated the owner is malnourishing their dog. Sandra has taken several assaults on her character.
 
I feel the need to stand beside Sandra, even though I don't feed Purina. It's the way I was raised. Here, in Texas, we talk nice to ladies. I could've have been feeding Innova or, most likely, Eagle Pack, and I would still defend Sandra's right to defend her choice and present her reasons and take offense to the personal slams she has endured. Because it's the right thing to do, regardless of what we feed. Noblesse Oblige.

ORIGINAL: chinook

If people want to trust Purina, or any other manufacturer, without thinking, no problem. Nobody is denying that stupid people exist.  A fool and his money...stabilize the economy.

Well that was a nice one!

But I must agree, stupid people do exist. Stupid people who choose to keep trying 'premium' food after premium food even when their dog is throwing up every meal, has bloody stools and looks like crap. Stupid people who fall into the premium hype and practically kill their dog before they realize 'hey Fluffy didnt look this bad on the 'garbage' foods'

How are the people who feed Purina 'stupid'? because they feed a food that works for their dogs? because they have found a food that their dog likes, and that bloodwork shows their system also agrees (and excels) with?

If thats the case then we are all stupid people [&:]

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus

ORIGINAL: sandra_slayton


And yes, I trust my dogs health to Purina as it has always done right by my dad's dogs and my dogs.

See this is my beef right here. Why do you feel the need to try and make someone try something else? If the dogs are getting great blood panels, and they have all the 'good' symptoms a premium fed dog has, why do we have to feed something else?

If your dog has good teeth, shny coat and firm stools, why dont you try feeding Ol' Roy and see if he stays that way? If he does maybe you should stick to that.
If that's the only thing that your dad fed then you don't have a basis for comparison...

I've meant to ask what the other food you once tried was?

Ok lets talk about corn now.

I feel the need to stand beside Sandra, even though I don't feed Purina. It's the way I was raised. Here, in Texas, we talk nice to ladies. I could've have been feeding Innova or, most likely, Eagle Pack, and I would still defend Sandra's right to defend her choice and present her reasons and take offense to the personal slams she has endured. Because it's the right thing to do, regardless of what we feed. Noblesse Oblige.

 
  I wasn't raised in Texas but I think we should treat everyone with respect, ladies and gents. I haven't seen a thread this nasty in several months.

I don't think anyone's saying they can't share their opinions.  However, even if someone politely disagrees with there opinion there are some individuals that get VERY defensive, which is simply silly.  It's just freakin dog food, and it's just a message board--if you are going to give your opinion than you'd better be prepared for others to give theirs.

I also think that while there have been some unkind things said to Purina feeders, most of us have had unkind things said to us, and those saying these things are the VAST minority.

While you could be right about having unkind things said to most of us,,,it usually by the same big mouths that have no respect for anyone here except those that totally agree with them.  However I havn't seen those unkind things said by the Purina feeders.  My food (Eagle Pack) and myself have also been on the receiving end of unkind things...and that is why I personally feel the need to defend the Purina (and all) feeders here.
This IS a message board and we SHOULD all have the right to post and discuss, and we all must be prepared for people to "politely" disagree with us.  But "politely" disagreeing is not telling someone to keep trying to find other food while their pet is happy and healthy. Politely disagreeing is not telling someone that the food they feed is garbage.  There were so many rude and obnoxious things said on this thread to pretty much one person, and I haven't really noticed that she retaliated with any of the same rudness.

I think it is rather ironic that a couple of people screaming the loudest about how Purina feeders are feeding crap and killing there dogs, feed a food that is made by Diamond at a Diamond facility.  The bottom line is you can find reasons to feed and not to feed just about any dog food, so really the ultimate test is if it works for your dog.