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Posted : 3/29/2006 2:33:48 PM

[linkhttp://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/wolfexrep.html]http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/wolfexrep.html[/link] has an interesting article about raw food and bones where the vet wrote to various wolf sanctuaries.

Basically what I took from it was wild dogs and wolves eat bones but also eat the fur and skin which helps pass the bones through their GI tract.

Interesting food for thought!

jennie_c_d

Posted : 3/29/2006 2:38:38 PM

What is your diet like?

I'm a vegetarian, thanks. I eat no flesh. That doesn't mean it's unsafe or wrong to eat flesh, raw or cooked. It's just my preference not to.

jennie_c_d

Posted : 3/29/2006 2:41:16 PM

How can they be carnivores when the article you linked to states a black bears diet is 75-85% vegetation.

It doesn't......

[linkhttp://www.americanbear.org/Evolution%20-%20Taxonomy.htm]http://www.americanbear.org/Evolution%20-%20Taxonomy.htm[/link] is the link that I posted.

jennie_c_d

Posted : 3/29/2006 2:42:44 PM

Just thought I would see how yall felt about this... dont worry I would never do this but all this talk of omnivores and carnivores I thought I would share what I found...

Dogs CAN be vegetarians. They can also live on Ol Roy, or Kibbles N Bits. That doesn't mean that it's optimal, or natural. They're pretty adaptable, and will eat most anything.

loveukaykay

Posted : 3/29/2006 2:48:00 PM

I agree, I was more getting at that certain people think the vegetarian diet can actually be quite healty for dogs therefore some do it, I dont think anyone would go for kibbles n bits because they think its better.
Probably not optimal or natural but some people seem to think its is optimal... based on what ive read - I dont agree.

christine

Posted : 3/29/2006 4:12:34 PM

but I was wondering how people pronounced coyote.

I live in Aus,dont have coyote's here,for years i thought it was spelt cyote,looks wrong doesnt it [8D] Thats how i pronounce it too Ky-o-tee.

dyan

Posted : 3/29/2006 6:43:03 PM

Basically what I took from it was wild dogs and wolves eat bones but also eat the fur and skin which helps pass the bones through their GI tract.

I read the same thing last night, that the fur actually protects the the stomach and intestines while the bones are passing thru!

christine

Posted : 3/29/2006 7:15:16 PM

I have read time and again to NOT feed rmb's on an empty stomach.They are best fed after a full meal,so the food will sort of do the same thing as the skin and fur. My guys mostly get their rmb's after their meal,kinda like desert.Sometimes they'll get them on an empty tummy,but it does make sense to make sure they already have food in their bellies,to kind of act like a buffer if there are any sharp bits.

jessies_mom

Posted : 3/29/2006 8:25:55 PM

I have read several articles about this subject, and the first scat wolves pass after a meal is runny, the second one is firmer, and the third one is the bones wrapped in the hair and skin of the animal the wolves ate. I would question how well raw meat , a cooked meal, or commercial dog food would act as a buffer for the bones. Hair and skin are not digestible and remain intact to cover the bones as they pass through the digestive tract, but raw meat and commercial food would have been digeated and would not be much protection for the dog's intestines against bones.

dyan

Posted : 3/29/2006 8:41:50 PM

Ewe Janice,,, if it is true about the skin and fur, then your right, where is the protection with any of the food that we feed our dogs?

jessies_mom

Posted : 3/29/2006 8:53:29 PM

We're not providing our dogs the natural protection that wild canids have from bones perforating their intestines when they feed on a whole carcass. We are avid hikers and spend many weekends hiking in state parks and nature preserves, and I've seen coyote scat several times with the bones from a rabbit wrapped in the fur. It looks like a hairy stick. Many people here feed raw bones with no problems, and the chances of a bone fragment perforating the intestines or causing an obstruction are low, but I don't think those who feed raw bones should think there isn't any risk at all.

dyan

Posted : 3/29/2006 9:03:10 PM

I do give Bubblegum raw bones, but not as much as most people,,,I honestly worry each time I do, but mainly about breaking her (and Ollie too when he was here all the time) teeth. I'm mainly now doing chicken necks only, and think that they are small enough to not do too much damage.

christine

Posted : 3/29/2006 9:16:18 PM

if it is true about the skin and fur, then your right, where is the protection with any of the food that we feed our dogs?

I dont know Dyan.Havnt you found an article about it on the great dane lady's or eaglepacks sites [

] [8D]

jennie_c_d

Posted : 3/29/2006 9:35:08 PM

ORIGINAL: jessies_mom

I have read several articles about this subject, and the first scat wolves pass after a meal is runny, the second one is firmer, and the third one is the bones wrapped in the hair and skin of the animal the wolves ate. I would question how well raw meat , a cooked meal, or commercial dog food would act as a buffer for the bones. Hair and skin are not digestible and remain intact to cover the bones as they pass through the digestive tract, but raw meat and commercial food would have been digeated and would not be much protection for the dog's intestines against bones.

I have noticed hair coated poops, feathery, and scaly poops, when my dogs get whole prey. I never thought of it having bone in the middle. I'll have to look next time.[:'(] The things I do..... Oh, well... If I decide to have kids, I'll never be grossed out.

dyan

Posted : 3/29/2006 9:37:51 PM

Why would we find information about eating skin and fur on the Great Dane Lady website Christine?
Why would Eagle Pack put anything on their website about eating skin and fur Christine?

"Raw Meat: A Dangerous Fad"