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Posted : 8/17/2006 5:29:20 PM

The myth regarding it taking kibble and raw meat different amount of times to pass through the digestive system has been debunked. It's a myth.

I have read this before as well. In fact on one forum they suggested to do a test - add some raw carrots to a kibble meal and see how long it takes to

ass through the system. Then do it with the raw meal. All the feeders said the carrots passed through with the kibble meals in the same amount of time they passed through with the raw meals. I have not done this test yet...but I think I will. Frankly I mix raw and kibble and there are no problems, carrots or not! LOL

Caprice Christian

Posted : 8/17/2006 6:35:32 PM

I have some raw stuff that I got from our local Natural dog food store. Could someone please look at their website and tell me if it looks like good food???

http://www.mountaindogfood.com/thefood.htm

chewbecca

Posted : 8/17/2006 7:18:19 PM

Sounds decent to me.
I mean, you're going to want to add supplements and that means more research on your part (and let me tell you, this is all quite aggravating for me starting out) to add in what you think your dog needs. But it's a no grain food and that is DEFINITELY good.

I'm currently steaming some carrots to add to Ella's dinner right now. [

] I've already powdered the eggshells.

I think it's worth it.

Some people don't feed any fruits and veggies, but they usually give whole chickens, rabbits, things of that nature that will usually have the fruits/veggies partially in them anyway, I believe, I could be completely wrong, but I'm sure someone who feeds rabbits or chickens will chime in and tell you correctly, if so.

Edie

Posted : 8/17/2006 7:36:01 PM

after it had gotten into the fatty drippings left over from grilling ribs. About six weeks ago, someone else posted that the vet said their dog had gotten pancreatitis from being fed some roast pork.

This cant be compared to 73% lean meat though [

]. Dogs need a relatively decent amount of fat in their diet.It's when dogs get nothing but kibble and then get into the tray of meat drippings or get the turkey fat and gravy at thanksgiving is when pancreatitis is most likely.
My dogs get a fair amount of fat in their diets,but i believe they are at low risk of getting pancreatitis because they are used to it??

inne

Posted : 8/17/2006 8:22:27 PM

I feed kibble in the morning and raw at night and it works well.

jessies_mom

Posted : 8/17/2006 8:24:24 PM

I know that dogs need a certain amount of fat and convert it into energy. You're probably right about the drippings or turkey fat but there was a thread by someone whose dog developed it after being fed a small amount of pork roast, not drippings, but it was a small dog and they seem more prone to pancreatitis. I searched but couldn't find it; sorry.

jamcony

Posted : 8/17/2006 9:24:04 PM

I feed kibble and raw frozen together as well as canned and kibble together without a problem. Check out the Dog Food Project for information regarding the myth that kibble shouldn't be fed with raw.

Edie

Posted : 8/17/2006 9:41:57 PM

someone whose dog developed it after being fed a small amount of pork roast,

Pork seems to be a common set off for panc. Especially when the owners eat the lean part and give the dogs the globs of crackling [sm=eek.gif] I dont eat pork because of it's fattiness,i hate any fat or gristle on meat[:'(]

Edie

Posted : 8/17/2006 9:44:15 PM

I know that dogs need a certain amount of fat and convert it into energy.

Sorry,i know you know you're stuff when it comes to doggy nutrition.[sm=happy.gif] I hope i didnt come off as trying to educate you or anything,as that was not my intention.

jessies_mom

Posted : 8/17/2006 10:46:59 PM

I hope i didnt come off as trying to educate you or anything, as that was not my intention.

You didn't; that's not what I meant when I made that remark about dogs needing fat; I was agreeing with your statement. The point you made about pancreatitis likely being caused by meat drippings or turkey fat at Thanksgiving and not meat with a little fat is probably true. I only know a little when it comes to dog nutrition; there are many members who know a lot more but thanks for the compliment. There are certainly things you know that I don't and I'm sure I could learn from you.

dogslyfe

Posted : 8/18/2006 7:39:29 AM

At one point all of my dogs got kibble in the AM and raw in the PM. They did very well on it, and I know of quite a few people that do this. Believe you me, they had no problems digesting either part. I personally see no problem with it. I didn't see any difference in their digestion rates that I could tell.

mudpuppy

Posted : 8/18/2006 9:07:39 AM

I often mix kibble and raw together in the same meal, no problems ever.
Most dogs can routinely eat lots of fat and never develop pancreatitis. A typical pancreatitis case is an overweight middle-aged dog who normally eats kibble and then over a holiday is fed all of the fat trimmings and scraps from the feast.

Caprice Christian

Posted : 8/18/2006 9:22:26 AM

I tried Duke and Daisy out on the raw food last night. They both really liked it, they gobbled it up within a few minutes and licked their bowls clean! That never happens!
Later in the night Dukes poop was really runny! Is that normal when he isn't used to raw? Or should I not feed it to him? Daisy was fine.

Another question.... if I buy the food ([linkhttp://www.mountaindogfood.com]www.mountaindogfood.com[/link] ) they have a formula that has all of the supplements in it, do you think that would be OK??? Or is it better to buy the stuff that has no supplements and add my own???
Quoted from the website..."In the Ascension Formulation we add, organ meats, a mineral and vitamin supplement, as well as kelp, to enhance the nutrient profile...."

dogslyfe

Posted : 8/18/2006 9:28:46 AM

I tried Duke and Daisy out on the raw food last night. They both really liked it, they gobbled it up within a few minutes and licked their bowls clean! That never happens!
Later in the night Dukes poop was really runny! Is that normal when he isn't used to raw? Or should I not feed it to him? Daisy was fine.

What exactly did you feed them? What do your dogs weigh?

jessies_mom

Posted : 8/18/2006 9:30:28 AM

It's important to introduce raw food slowly, starting with a small amount and gradually increasing how much you feed them; you just gave him too much too soon.

Mixing Raw & Kibble