Pork based kibble!

Pork is usually first on the list when identifying food allergies. Some dogs may do very well of it but from what I have noticed is that pork comes up quite often on allergy test.  Maybe that is why it is not as popular on the market as other meats. Lamb, on the other hand, seems to do quite well for dogs who are very allergy sensitive. Kangaroo was the best for food allergies at one time but I don't think that is even legal to sell anymore, forgot who use to make it?

When I was doing an elimination diet with Gizmo I had to quickly cross pork off her list of foods she could eat.  I had another dog who, whenever she was given even a table scrap of pork, it would make her vomit and feel sick for a while.

Xebby

 Kangaroo was the best for food allergies at one time but I don't think that is even legal to sell anymore, forgot who use to make it?

Addiction is the dog food brand which has a kangaroo formula - wild kangaroo and apples.  Addiction is pricey!

 I think handling pork may be another reason few pet food companies use it.  Plus, most make both dog and cat foods, and cats tend to detest pork.  

Eagle Pack used to have pork in it, might still but you know they changed ownsers a few times so who knows.  Ollie ( the allerygy dog ) did WONDERFUL on it.

I too had never heard about a dog being allergic to pork, actually everyone and their brother talks about allergies to chicken.

 I have seen pork included in a kibble but not the sole source of protein. Using pork and then throwing in chicken or turkey or egg or chicken fat is useless to those of us with dogs that are allergic to poultry. I have searched kibbles for years looking for completely poultry-free formulas, most that are supposedly non-chicken include chicken or egg anyway. makes me nuts!!!!!!!

There are very few grain free kibbles (or any other decent ones) that completely eliminate poultry and the ones that have been around the longest are fish. I have been feeding Bugsy fish since he was less than a year old, with a few dalliances into beef or lamb but again only a teeny few have high enough protein levels. 21-24% isn't going to be sufficient for Bugsy.I worry that at some point he could become allergic to fish then we would be in deep trouble.

He has such a wonky immune system that I hesitate to go completely to beef even for a month at a time because it is considered a 'hot' or inflammatory protein source.

Acana now has a red meat grain free, plus a lamb and most recently a pork limited ingredient formula which is encouraging. I think its progress that a) they are making pork based kibble and b) they are realizing that making a lamb based kibble (or other meat) and then adding egg or chicken fat negates the use of the new protein

kpwlee

I hesitate to go completely to beef even for a month at a time because it is considered a 'hot' or inflammatory protein source.

Just to quickly interject, beef is considered a neutral food------lamb is a warming food.  You would likely be safer using the beef rather than anything with lamb.  My IBD guy eats a primarily beef diet--no problems.  You may also want to look for a bison based diet--bison is generally a neutral to cool food---Pure Vita has a nice bison formula, although I'm not sure the protein level would be as high as you would like for Bugsy.  Canine Caviar has a great bison formula with a higher protein level, but is generally hard to find and ususally quite pricey.  Just some random thoughts.

tzu_mom

 

kpwlee

I hesitate to go completely to beef even for a month at a time because it is considered a 'hot' or inflammatory protein source.

Just to quickly interject, beef is considered a neutral food

I have seen the Canine Caviar but not the Pure Vita

Bugsy runs best on 30+% protein - under that and I need to feed excessive amounts to keep weight on and his coat/skin doing well. Also his energy levels are more consistent - on foods with grains he seems to have sugar highs and crashes

That is interesting.  My information is from my tcvm vet, in accordance with the Traditional Chinese Medicine principles.  BUT each dog is different, and reacts differently to different things.  Our biggest no-no's are chicken, lamb and salmon.  Best bets are bison, beef and turkey, and grain free for us---I do not feed kibble, but I know it's hard to find one with all the right ingredients---there always seems to be an egg sneaking it's way into what "appears" to be a poultry free kibble--gah!

Here's a quick, but incomplete, list of some hot/warm/neutral foods

http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/avhc/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=610962&sk=&date=&pageID=5

kpwlee

 

He has such a wonky immune system that I hesitate to go completely to beef even for a month at a time because it is considered a 'hot' or inflammatory protein source.

I thought Chicken was the " hot " meat and that beef was good.  I was told when Gibby was having what I thought was digestive problems to use beef instead of chicken.

You know...was talking to a lady on Friday that is trying to get Gibby away from ANY kibble PERIOD.  Saying the carbs in the grain frees are absolutely no better than the grains for the dogs digsetive system. If Gibby just wasn't so darn big and eat so darn much.

Xebby

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When I was doing an elimination diet with Gizmo I had to quickly cross pork off her list of foods she could eat. 

  The same thing happened when I was doing an elimination diet for Jessie. It's been several years since I did the elimination diet so about four months ago, Monica and I decided to try pork in a cooked diet for her; the only ingredients were pork and rice. Shortly after introducing the diet, her ears became very itchy. I stopped the diet and her ears were better, then tried it again a week later and her ears flared up again.

   There used to be a formula called Back To Basics Pork; I think it included sweet potatoes and vegetables. I would have loved to be able to feed it to Jessie; maybe it's still on the market.

 Quick update is that he's doing superbly transitioning to this kibble.  No gas, no dandruff, firm solid poo.  Just figures its out of production

kpwlee

Just figures its out of production

   Merrick doesn't list it on their website anymore with their other Before Grain products, but it looks like petfoodirect still has some in stock;

   Before-Grain Dry-Dog-Food Dog | PetFoodDirect.com

    Would either of these work;

    By Nature Natural Pork & Sweet Potato Flavor Dry Dog Food | PetFoodDirect

    Back to Basics Grain Free Pork Formula Dry Dog Food | PetFoodDirect

 Thanks Janice I have seen that it is available in several places online but I would hate to try to keep stock of something that will dry up fairly quickly (or be out of date due to the end of manufacturing)

That Back to Basics looks good - I haven't seen their stuff before so will have to take a look into them. Thank you for doing some research on this! I have a handful of options which are fish or red meat based, this adds another product we can use - which is always good with these allergy pups!

Sally is allergic to lamb, fish, rabbit, duck, and venison, but not to beef, chicken, turkey, or pork.

They do sell kangaroo based dog food--California Natural Grain Free has Kangaroo and Red Lentil kibble.