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Another TOP young trainer!

Posted : 11/15/2010 10:45:18 AM

16 year old Andrea Hashimoto took third place at Nationals with a dog she has raised and trained from puppyhood. She also took High Protection.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE her obedience routine! Even among top world level competitors I'm not easily impressed because I do not like heeling that is too "crabby" or dogs that look too hectic or show that they have been trained with too much pressure. I wish this dog would settle in just a bit more and not do the hopping thing but otherwise I LOVE the correct position, the attitude of the dog, and his willingness to work. The entire thing is not over the top but very clean and consistent. When you watch you can tell how much training time she has put in to compete at this level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHe2DG01VTE

Protection routine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edIFyGbsboI

micksmom

Posted : 11/15/2010 3:36:03 PM

Impressive! Like you, tho, I would prefer to see the dog a little more settled on the heeling. I was wondering about her hand position, tho- it looked rather awkard to me. Is that a normal way to hold your hand? Now to watch the protection one!

ETA- WOW! That's all I can say. Were you there? I couldn't hear what was being said at the end.

stardog85

Posted : 11/15/2010 4:16:23 PM

I really like actually seeing a handler with a smile on their face and the obvious relationship with the dog on top of the excellent skills. So many videos show people uberserious!

jennie_c_d

Posted : 11/15/2010 4:21:46 PM

I would guess that the hand position is intended to keep her from bonking him on the head, LOL. He is so cute! I love his goofy grin, on the heeling.

micksmom

Posted : 11/15/2010 4:33:58 PM

jennie_c_d
I would guess that the hand position is intended to keep her from bonking him on the head, LOL...

That's what I was thinking, but holding her hand at her waist in front of her (like where a belt buckle would be) would be much more comfortable. LOL

jennie_c_d

Posted : 11/15/2010 4:35:35 PM

Maybe, but it looks like it'd be a target for him to nose bop. It's allowed in AKC, but is it allowed in Schutzhund? I know that the rules are different, for what constitutes a double command.

stardog85

Posted : 11/15/2010 4:36:18 PM

I don't believe that you're allowed to touch your stomach with your hand during off lead heeling in schutzhund. They should hang and move "naturally" at your sides.

Liesje

Posted : 11/15/2010 6:21:02 PM

You cannot touch yourself or the dog. Hands on the abdomen is luring. Many (including me at times) are forced to hold the hand out like that b/c of our height vs. the dog's height. She actually looks a lot less unnatural than some people (who are shorter and/or have huge dogs!).

Jason L

Posted : 11/15/2010 10:23:58 PM

This video has actually generated a lot of discussion at our club because of how Ike heels lol. Nevertheless, a fine performance and a really really nice dog!

Liesje

Posted : 11/15/2010 10:55:21 PM

LOL I won't lie, I was thinking about Ike when they came out onto the field! It doesn't help that Ike looks like Henk. But what I like about the heeling and what you've done with Ike is that the video is the definition of collecting in the rear while heeling. That and the overall attitude and precision make up for the Tigger style heeling. I love the fast pace where they are perfectly matched in stride and timing.

Jason L

Posted : 11/15/2010 11:16:55 PM

The first time I watched the video I was waiting for the hopping to stop and then 40 steps and an about turn later I realized: "Hmm ... he's not going to stop hopping, is he???" lol.

Well, the debate at our club was whether a dog that hops but hops in position (like Henk was doing) is "correct" or not. One school of thought was "yes" - as long as the dog is correct in his position vis-a-vis the handler, then how he moves or how he keeps position should not matter. The other school of thought (backed by our TD who is a USA judge) was that hopping in and of itself is incorrect. I wonder how many points they lost in heeling ...

Jason L

Posted : 11/15/2010 11:31:22 PM

The protection is really nice! No disagreement amongst members of our club there. Everyone was impressed lol. Btw, did you see Mark Natinsky's OB video (I think he got high OB at the trial). I really like that one.

micksmom

Posted : 11/16/2010 8:09:56 AM

Liesje

You cannot touch yourself or the dog. Hands on the abdomen is luring. Many (including me at times) are forced to hold the hand out like that b/c of our height vs. the dog's height. She actually looks a lot less unnatural than some people (who are shorter and/or have huge dogs!).

Aaa- thanks, Liesje! Just to clarify, I wasn't "knocking" what she was doing, more curious about why she was holding her arm/hand that way. Besides looking awkward, it almost looked like it was a cue to the dog not to forge. See what so many years of traditional AKC obdience does to you? LOL

Jason L

Posted : 11/16/2010 10:15:16 AM

I think the hand out position definitely has some "practical" uses. Done correctly, you can teach the dog to orient himself in relation to the hand - which comes in very handy in left turns, left finish, and left about turns. Also, lots of schH folks teach heeling by using the ball in the armpit method so by keeping the hand out and armpit visible, it keeps the picture relatively the same for the dog. But then again one can say the same thing about AKC's hand on stomach position. We're all trying to help out the dogs as much as possible without breaking the rules hehe

Liesje

Posted : 11/16/2010 10:44:41 AM

True, haha! I'm in a trial this weekend and the obedience is on-lead. Rules don't say where/how to hold the lead so it will be in my *right* hand if no one says anything. I correct with my right hand and that is the picture he's used to seeing (b/c I hold the ball behind his head in the left hand).