Why do people get judged when asking a breeding question????

    • Gold Top Dog

    No he gave me good advice as well as most of the other people on here. I took all advice to heart and really thought about it before I replied. Thanks so muhc everyone!!!!!

    • Gold Top Dog

    If you had the post you would know I am going to breed Chi's. I have thought about all the advice like I said earlier. And I listen to everyone, not just DPU. And do you know how this probably makes DPU feel?? Having advice ridiculed all the time when theres no necesarry right or wrong answer is just plain a waste of time. If you have something to say then respond directly to me and state your opinion. Dont ridicule other people in the post just tell me why you think your way is better.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I am getting quite angry with you AL. You are not giving any advice good or bad. You are just wasting your time trying to get everyone to think the way you do. That is a plain and simple waste of time.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Xeph, I think you should read the post when I respondeed to AL.

    • Gold Top Dog

    ottoluv
    Lets not feed trolls y'all

    Yup, I agree....Hmm

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    Chuffy
    ALthough I will point out that I personally didn't think the part about 100% risk was even worth you botehring to respond to, to be honest.

    Yeh, but responding to that part was fun.  Stick out tongue

    Chuffy
    Anyways, what was this topic about again?  Aren't we all just replying to the same person, and what's the chance taht person is playing devils advocate, or just as likely, sitting at the keyboard snigering at how indignant we are all getting?  Just a thought... 

    I am definitely leaning toward the idea of a person who simply enjoys stirring up a storm. Lightning

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'm sorry you are angry that I choose to stick to practices set forth by accredited kennel clubs and responsible breeders.

    • Gold Top Dog

    How do you know I wont be a responsible breeder?????? Have you met me?? NO!! Well thanks for responding directly to ME.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Didn't you post that you wanted to breed your Chi because she's blonde and has a great personality, to a male that has displayed aggression? That's irresponsible right there.

    You never posted anything about health tests, temp tests, and other necessary tests.

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    Mechanical Angel
    How do you know I wont be a responsible breeder??????

    Because you are breeding a back yard dog - to another back yard dog, because your dog is cute, and your friends dog loves people. I'm sorry, but in no way does that make you a responsible breeder.

    Did you look on petfinder.com like I asked several times? Do you see how many homeless chihuahuas are out there already? Do you know how many have horrible health problems and aggression problems because people like you think it would be fun to breed? HOW is that fair to the dog?

    Have you had health tests done on this pups relatives? I've asked a few times about this, as have other members - but yet, no response from you on that issuse. Have you looked at how many health issues burden chihuahua owners because their pet was bred the way you are intending?

    Xeph is well known in the show ring with her GSDs. Before you knock her down, please look at what she has to say. She knows good breeding, first hand.

    I know I said I was done with this - but I cannot believe you are looking soley at one persons point of view, because they are bitter that they did not bred their dog. I WOULD NEVER bred my dogs. All my pets are altered, because I know how many other homeless animals are out there. I foster pups, I've seen dogs give birth - I have no desire to put any of my animals through that. You can be responsible all you want - by saying you'll take care of the pups when no one wants them - but what happens when someone doesn't want the pup, but doesn't tell you that. Yea - you have a contract, everyone has a contract. I have news for you. You would be shocked to see how many dogs are surrenered by their owners that got them from 'breeders.'

    Spay your pet - she'll thank you.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'm wondering if part of the problem here is that some people have one idea of what responsible breeder is and others another. 

    To me and maybe most others-responsible breeder means they've done all the elitist things like title the dog, health test the dog--ie, not just take it to the vet and the vet says it's healthy but the hip tests, eye tests, all of that--I'm not a breeder so cannot remember them all of the top but I know they exisit, etc, etc. 

    And, then reading I think to others this means, they will feed the dogs, find homes or keep them, love them, etc. 

    Maybe instead of responsible we should be using the word professional?? 

    Just a thought. . .

    • Gold Top Dog

    willowchow

    Maybe instead of responsible we should be using the word professional?? 

    IMO, professional relates to money-making, which is the last thing responsible breeders do.

    I like the word reputable... and I think you're right about people having different views on responsibility. It doesn't just apply to breeding either - lots of JQP dog owners would be considered irresponsible by the standards here.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I understand.  I just think some don't have a clear understanding of what others mean by responsible in this case--and thought maybe professional would drive it home. 

    DPU (and others too) I can certainly relate to the feeling of loving your dog so much and fearing your time is coming to an end soon and wishing you had more time--or another puppy who could carry on like it's parent.  I've thought that way myself about Willow.  Please what I wouldn't give for just one puppy picture of HER, let alone. . .Anyway, I think in the end we have to pull ourselves together and realize there is only one Drizzle, Willow, etc.  And, breeding without really knowing what you are doing is wrong--as you must be able clearly see with all your fosters.

    OP--I'd like to think that I'm just giving my opinions and not judging anyone.  I feel there is a right and a wrong way to go about breeding dogs that's been set and isn't just my opinion. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Mechanical Angel, please add this link to the set of learning links that I gave you:

    http://www.italian-greyhound.net/brucellosis.htm

    That link describes Brucellosis - an incurable canine STD.  The disease can be transferred other than by sexual contact.

    The Brucellosis test is a test that should be done on both dogs before every breeding - even for dogs that have never been bred before. 

    "The most common sign is abortion between days 45 to 59 of gestation or 'missed breeding' in bitches. Males can show clinical signs such as infertility, and/or atrophy of testicles."

    Dogs with Brucellosis should be euthanized so as not to spread the disease.  While highly contagious, the disease is relatively rare now and we need to keep it that way.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Mechanical Angel

    How do you know I wont be a responsible breeder?????? Have you met me?? NO!! Well thanks for responding directly to ME.

     

    She didn't say you wouldn't, she said she was a responsible NON-breeder because of her practices and choices with her own dogs.  (Or at least that's what I picked up when I read her post.)  While I am leaning towards the opinion that you might not be a responsible breeder, I'm hoping that I will see a post where you mention SOMETHING, ANYTHING about the pedigree and history of your dog or the potential stud dog, or some health tests that have been done on either of them or their parents or grandparents or great grandparents.  I'm praying that you've read more than just those posts that have given you the affirmation and encouragement to pursue your breeding goals. I'm praying that you'll thoroughly read the posts that have given you suggestions on educating yourself about the breeding and whelping process in general and in particular as it applies to chihuahuas.  I'm hoping that you'll reach out to a real live professional, reputable, whatever chihuahua breeder that is active in the breed and ask for information and mentoring and participate in the breeding and whelping of that breeder's dogs so you can experience  this endeavor first without risking your own dog's life and then will reflect on all that transpires and then think carefully about whether you think you and your dog are suited to go through it.

    And honestly, then I'm desperately praying that you change your mind.