calliecritturs
Posted : 1/1/2007 1:08:38 PM
DPU *your* experience may be experience with those particular dogs, but of the 12 dogs I've had in recent years there have been two who were intact for a long period of time.
The male developed a perianal hernia at 10 and I very nearly lost him to that. Post surgery he remained healthy and I lost him at 2 months shy of the age of 19. A sheltie/corgi mix and neither breed is particularly long-lived for its size. The neuter decision had not been mine - my ex husband adamantly refused to allow him to be neutered. Got rid of ex, dog got the hernia literally a few months later and I had him neutered despite the 'risk' of his age.
We took an older female (10+) when the local rescue got her and she was majorly heartworm positive. She was spayed as she came thru rescue and she had some pretty major health issues but thrived with us for another 6 1/2 years (boxer/pit mix). She had an infection at the time she was brought in and it was suspected it could be early pyo but the late spay left her quite incontnent (but the drugs she took for her heart also made her incontinent).
My other dogs have been about half early spay/neuter. Generally the ones altered early have been far more healthy. I have no way of validly drawing a conclusion from that because the ones who weren't generally were "purebreds" likely from mills who were either used as potential breeding stock by completely irresponsible people or who WERE used as breeding stock (badly -- many many health-related/breed-related severe health issues)
My general experience definitely follows all the major studies -- that spayed/neutered animals live longer and live healthier.
there is no daily test for pyo -- and when a dog is 8 years old the onset of pyo is SO incredibly slow you are **not** gonna catch it. Because it completely mimics just plain general aging and maturing.
However, just to add one more thing to dvet's study -- another study currently being done has to do with I spoke to one of the vets at U of Florida recently who has been doing research on spay incontinence (ways to 'fix' it, etc.)
They are discovering that when a female is spayed in an 'early' (VERY early -- as in 8-10 weeks laser spay which is a one stich surgery where they simply cauterize the 'buds' of the sex organs and they literally don't develop, rather than a removal of the actual organs by surgery) -- these dogs seem NEVER to develop spay incontinence.
When a spay is done it can leave the bladder kind of 'hanging' because it was originally sort of connected to the uterus. As those muscles sag that can cause spay incontinence as the bladder/urinary tract lose elasticity. If the surgery is done badly spay incontinence can resulte more quickly. The general rule of thumb seems to be the older a bitch is before she IS spayed, the more apt they are to have problems.
The pups spayed at 8-10 weeks simply grow and develop where the bladder grows and anchors itself more solidly so there is less potential problem.
So one outgrowth of this particular study is there are more benefits to very early spay/neuter than were originally thought.
I'm not trying to convince you - you seem to like to voice your views regardless. Yes, it's a "personal decision" to a degree, but one often badly and irresponsibly done by most folks ... which makes others tend to want to legislate it.
I've honestly never lost a dog to cancer who was spayed/neutered early. Can I leap and say that's a conclusion? NO. However, a lot of the problems I've inherited by adopting sick dogs others hadn't cared for properly WOULD have been either elminated or far less in their severity had the dog been altered early. I do tend to seek out animals with problems to take and bring back to health -- I can tell you that the one statement above truly sums it up pretty accurately -- both in what I've read in various studies and in what I've seen in my years dealing with dogs:
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Shelters do early s/n out of necessity and god help us all if that DIDN'T get done because "bring the puppy back in 4 months and we'll do it free" works about as well as lead filled life vests"