Colitis - kpwlee

No medical advice but I hope you can get some answers that help.  Sending kisses for Bugsy.

Poor Bugs...hugs for you Karen

 Poor Bugsyboo. I hope he starts feeling better soon.

Poor Bugs!  Nikon had a period of cow pie poop recently too. I believe his gut was way out of whack, after two rounds of different antibiotics for his foot infection, the heat (extreme heat plus all the water drinking sometimes give my dogs the runs), and I tried a few new kibbles.  My elimination diet is 50/50 instant white rice to boiled ground beef (I boil and then rinse under HOT water to wash all the grease off).  I don't give anything else, if I keep adding all the supplements and additives everyone suggests then I feel I'm no longer just doing a bland, elimination diet and the dog won't starve to death on this diet for a short period (I've heard of people using the bland diet for months).  I've used this before and know it works for him, rice is not a problem for any of my dogs.  I give him some of this "casserole" twice a day for several days before adding his regular kibble back in.  If I have to add some ingredient, med, or supplement then I try to do so very minimally and give it 2-3 days before making any more changes.

Hope Bugsy starts feeling better soon !

Deb W.

thanks everyone!  The thing is he has been droopy for a couple of weeks, while he had soft serve poo, but last night finally was CWAZEE.  He started the colitis yesterday morning so somehow this 'progression' from soft serve to multiple slop episodes has him feeling better. Go figure

It is definitely colitis and not just plain old diarrhea so that is what makes it a new challenge.  hystorically he can eat and drink anything without digestive issues.

I will swap to potato although I don't think he has grain issues.  He loves the bland diet so potatoes or rice mixed with beef and he is THRILLED! Its a treat you see LOL

tzu-mom if I had to guess I would say it is the chorophyll in the slippery elm concoction but he has so many environmental allergies it could be the aloe or it could be the slippery elm so for now - he's off all of it.

He sez thanks for his kisses but not too many - he prefers giving kisses to getting them

Bizarrely I am much happier to see him so happy and nuts - even if he has colitis for now - as opposed to the butt dragging boy he's been for a couple of weeks.  He had us laughing hysterically last night - all very classic Bugsy mischief and trouble

I have no other advice than what you've been given but I do hope Bugsy is feeling 100% soon.

I've never encountered a problem with slippery elm -- you could leave the chlorophyl out of it (didn't he have a bout of gorging on grass??).  Both the aloe and slippery elm are anti-inflammatories.

If he's straining to go that's colitis (peristalsis that just keeps cramping and cramping -- it's miserable) but you honestly likely need to talk to the vet because of the clostridium angle.  That's likely what it is -- and it may take metranydazole (Flagyl) to settle it all down.  Clinadamyacin is SO prone to cause the clostridium problem and you often have to address that specifically and it's not unusual to have such a prolonged reaction to it.  When your system doesn't get along with the drug it's the typical reaction (been there, done that with dogs AND me).

fwiw -- Luna's on clindamyacin now -- oh joy.  I'm so thrilled.  NOT

tzu_mom

For bouts of colitis, I have had great luck with Perfect Form by the Honest Kitchen--it usually clears things up in a day or two.

This is an interesting product, but it does contain slippery elm.  I wonder why they can't sell it in New Mexico or South Dakota.

http://www.thehonestkitchen.com/products/perfect-form/

Perfect Form

A supplement to support the normal healthy functioning of your pet’s digestive tract. This pet nutrition supplement combats gas, facilitates regularity, firms up loose stools, soothes and protects the GI Tract.

Perfect Form is ideal for pets with Irritable Bowel (IBS), Colitis or occasional digestive upset. We recommend using this supplement in conjunction with a grain-free diet for best results.

Ingredients:

Fennel, papain, papaya, pumpkin seed, plantain, pectin and slippery elm.

We’re sorry, this product is not allowed to be sold in New Mexico or South Dakota

Bugsy, I sure hope you are feeling better soon! It sounds like you were back to your self last night--good. Karen, I know nothing about colitis, so I can't add anything except good thoughts and healing vibes. ((((hugs))))

Did you try to have him fast for 12 or 24 hours (depending on how many times a day you feed) then start giving the beef/rice thing ? That might give his intestines time to calm down. If you try, it can take him a day or two before he starts pooping again.

If this was brought on by the antibiotics he's been on, the probiotics should help.

Glad he feels better and hoping the soupy poop stops soon.

kpwlee

f I had to guess I would say it is the chorophyll in the slippery elm concoction but he has so many environmental allergies it could be the aloe or it could be the slippery elm so for now - he's off all of it.

  Jessie's allergic to milk thistle; I noticed that her ears got very itchy when I put it in her food. She's allergic to some weeds from the same family, so it's a cross reaction.

  Are you using yogurt or a stronger probiotic? I had good results for Jessie with Pro-Bio Beads, which I get a local health food store;

Pro-Bio Beads Solgar Vitamins, Minerals, and Herbs. 

 I'm glad he's feeling better, and hope the diarrhea clears up very soon!!!

 Thanks everyone - Janice I am using probiotic supplements

Thalie I didn't completely fast - I called the vet earlier to ask if I should completely fast and they called back when I was at my neighbor's and DH got the whole conversation wrong so I didn't get the answer to my question, sigh.

I have no way of knowing what exactly he is allergic to out of the slippery elm, aloe or chlorophyll. I feel confident one of those is problem so I will not give it to him.It may be highly unusual but so is Bugsy