Firearm Licensing Act 2009

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Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm -
any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

*It is registered.
*You are fingerprinted.
*You supply a current Driver's License.
*You supply your Social Security #.
*You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at
any time of their choosing.
*Each update - change or ownership through private or
public sale must be reported and costs $25 -

Failure to do so you automatically lose the right
to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.
*There is a child provision clause on page 16 section
305 stating a child-access provision.

Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child
under 18.

Sounds about right to me. If you are a regular, law abiding citizen I don't see where these regulations would restrict your ability to own a gun. Registering a firearm with proper identification is only a problem if you don't want the authorities to know you own one. Why would that be a problem? I assume a physical examination would focus on eyesight. A mental evaluation speaks for itself. Safe storage, well is just the responsible thing to do - law or not. 

Some countries have had such laws for years, and where people can still legally obtain and keep a 44 Magnum that Dirty Harry would be proud to have,

2) The sales of guns should be in a national database.

3) Guns should be locked up from kids and when kids use guns it should be with supervision of an adult. I don't know why anyone would object to safe guarding children.

4) If you buy a gun, you should be fingerprinted. Why would you object to this?

And finally 5) If you have a record of being mentally unstable and a threat to yourself and others, then you should not own a gun.

I am all for keeping our right to own guns but I have no problem registering weapons and screening out the obvious criminals. 

JackieG

I am all for keeping our right to own guns but I have no problem registering weapons and screening out the obvious criminals. 

I agree!! The problem is... criminals will never register their guns.  This is just making it harder on honest people to attain them.  I wonder what the actual statistics are for how many registered guns/registered owners are in a crime versus how many are illegal.  

I would have less of a problem with the law if they were specific on what is considered a 'safe' location to keep your gun .. but, people being able to come into my home any time they want to verify this?  That's absurd.  5 yrs in prison if it's not "safe" enough?  ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. I don't have children.... but, am I responsible for neighborhood kids breaking into my home and stealing them?  I mean, where is the line.

This law is too ambiguous and treads too much on our second amendment. 

I don't even own a gun, but, I think I should be allowed to.

Sera_J

I agree!! The problem is... criminals will never register their guns.

So true!  But if a criminal uses a gun he stole from me, maybe I'll get it back after they throw him in jail. lol  I do agree, that like many laws these days, they are designed more to appease certain groups than to do any actual good for the average citizens.  The NRA is a very powerful lobby group and I support their efforts to insure my right to bear arms. 

sec.403

During business hours is how it is stated in the bill.

Sera_J

 

JackieG

I am all for keeping our right to own guns but I have no problem registering weapons and screening out the obvious criminals. 

I agree!! The problem is... criminals will never register their guns.  This is just making it harder on honest people to attain them.  I wonder what the actual statistics are for how many registered guns/registered owners are in a crime versus how many are illegal. 

Someone from Canada told me that Canadians own way more fire arms per capita but Canada has significantly less gun crime than the USA.

Liesje

Someone from Canada told me that Canadians own way more fire arms per capita but Canada has significantly less gun crime than the USA.

So I looked it up 

Guns /capita Canada .25, USA .82.

Murder Rate/100,000) with firearm Canada .5, USA 4.4, with handgun: Canada .23, USA 3.3

Like the US we have gun laws that very from province to province. In Ontario we have a gun registry which is a national registry (big debate about $), and I think all (if not more) of the same regulations as the OP. One interesting law is that there is a waiting period after a divorce before you can purchase a gun. Any kind of handgun or assault weapon is highly restricted. In the city of Toronto there is a handgun ban.

 I dont' have any problem with this - he US has a horrendous record with regard to guns - even excluding the deaths at the hands of criminals we have way too much accidental death and injury because gun owners are irresponsible

Guns should be inaccessible to under 18's and anyone else without the ability to safely use one - I feel strongly that people should have to pass a test to get licensed to use and own a gun - and have to retest to renew

and things like AK47's do not belong in the public property

DH was a firearms specialist with a major UK police force and since moving to the US has bought a fine selection of handguns - he works for a state law enforcement agency, practices weekly, is certified as a firearms instructor for state troopers and keeps all guns and ammo locked in a safe.  If all gun owning citizens were this diligent we'd be OK

     Just to set the record straight ... no, I am not opposed to COMMON SENSE handling of guns, which would include hiding the ammunition & keeping both bullets/guns out of the reach of children. I am not opposed to background checks for history of criminal record or mental illness. I am also not so gullible as to believe that the criminals or mentally unstable are going to be purchasing weapons the legal way so even the precautions we have available now are no deterrent at all to criminals seeking to purchase a firearm.

     Fingerprinting? Come on. A criminal will wear gloves, saw off the barrel. I do not believe I should be subjected to a psychiatric evaluation or have my prints taken just to apply for a gun license. Again, the background checks already required to obtain a license should screen out known offenders. It's the citizens who go through the proper route to acquire a gun who are the ones we generally do not have to worry about. Criminals do nto apply for gun licenses, so these procedures are nothing but a step in the direction of taking away all gun ownership rights. Again, I am not for any citizen doing what they want when they want but I am for slapping the hand of government when it sticks it's hand too deep into the cookie jar. Regulations are needed for law & order. This borders on the ridiculous. Imagine this is enforceable law, then we must we be subjected to home searches to inspect that our guns are locked appropriately to retain our license. Here is where you have a scenario where government may be overstepping it's boundaries - where you have a police state in lieu of a democracy. Think about it. If the law passed and gun owners must be inspected (otherwise how else would government know we are complying with the laws to lock guns away, etc) this may violate both our 2nd and 4th ammendment rights. Would the inspectors be able to override our right to no searches of our home w/o a warrant? Remember, this is law now so we must let these inspectors in or be fined/jailed.

     That is the problem I have with the law. Too much government overstepping boundaries. The second ammendment clearly states the right of the people to bear arma shall not be infringed. This bill is too much of an infringement and does NOT affect the availability of illegal guns in the hands of criminals. I am in an area where it's easy to get illegal guns, and in some places gun violence is sky high. What the government should be doing if it wants to stop gun violence is no leniancy for those who are found with illegal guns. Crack down on the illegal gun trade instead of making it more difficult for honest citizens to obtain licenses.

 ETA: I love the references to the gun ordinances of the UK and Canada ... lol. This is the USA. Honest citizens of this country have a constitutional right to own firearms. I don't care about gun bans in Canada or Australia or wherever else it's illegal to protect yourself with a gun. I live here because while not perfect, this is one hell of a country and has always, since it's conception, been different from every other country in the world. 300+ yrs and the same constitution is still working for us, can't say the same about most other countries who go through governments like dirty underwear. Ok, I digress. The outright banning of guns in the hands of citizens brings us too close to a socialist state. We need a better, more common sense approach to controlling the criminal population's ownership of guns. What we don't need is a restrictive law that will infringe on our rights to own guns for hunting & protection.