This REALLY P'd me off! edited as link did not work

    • Gold Top Dog

    This REALLY P'd me off! edited as link did not work

    An online group supporting Vick and perpetuating Pit *edited for content*.  ARGH.  How do you stop this????  HOW???  We're trying but its like trying to stop a leaky dam with your thumb!

     

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4009434706

     

    The recent allocations of Mike Vick's alleged "underground dog-fighting kingdom" have been blown way out of proportion and should be quickly forgotten. He is being accused of allowing dog fighting to take place on his property. As a result he has been barred from training camp, and will more than likely not be allowed to participate in the 2007 season.

    Now, we can all agree that dog fighting is an in-humane blood sport, there’s no denying that. Unfortunately the media is taking a very biased approach on the issue in favor of PETA and similar organization who are out for Vick's blood. They have not taken the situation into full context.

    When people picture dog fighting they might instinctively picture their own golden retriever or beagle being thrown into a pit and forced to fight to the death. This is not the case; the preferred dog of choice in the dog fighting syndicate is the pit bull. A very aggressive, medium size dog, that is not much more than teeth and jaws. For the past couple of years a growing number of counties have banned the ownership of pit bulls because of a large number of unprovoked attacks on humans and animals alike. This is not the dog’s fault, it's just what the dog instinctually does, opps, bad words that aren't allowed here removed up. As a result of the banning many pit bull owners have been forced to destroy (kill) their dogs so they can no longer be a threat to the community.

    Now you might be saying to yourself there's a big difference between putting a dog to sleep and forcing it into a "two man enter, one man leaves" Thunderdome situation. The difference is, the pit bull is being "humanely" killed for simply being the animal that it is. Mike Vick, on the other hand, allows it to be the animal that it is, and as a result the animal has a chance of dying. The pit bull was put on this planet to be an overly aggressive, mean oppps, bad words that aren't allowed here removed apart as a result. The American male was put on this planet to make money and be entertained by sports, the more carnage, the better, in some cases. All Mike Vick did was create a union between the instinctual desires of the American male, and the pit-bull.

    Blood sports have been around as long as people have been entertained. The Roman Coliseum was home to thousands of animal vs. animal and man vs. animal bouts, and they were looked at simply as money driven entertainment.

    Who out there can honestly say they have never removed the little plastic divider in their beta fish aquarium and watched the little devils turn the water red. It's entertaining and cheap to replace. Inhumane? Not as inhumane as putting two brightly colored fish in the same tank divided only be an invisible wall, when they want nothing more from life than to tear each other apart.

    This is getting long. To conclude: is it a horrible thing to watch two dogs go at each other until one of them is dead? Yes. But what causes this to happen. Sure Mike Vick may have starved, beaten and electricuted some of his dogs in order to develop his dog's skills, but that's only because he is a good business man, maybe a little cold and twisted, but a business man none the less, he wants to make as much money as a can. The actual killing instinct was provided by nature, and who are we do deny that.

    Mike Vick is one of the greatest pieces of raw talent to ever grace the NFL, not allowing him to play because he allows mother nature to run its course is a crime all in its own.

    Moderators note:  Editied content was not written by the OP, but part of the quote she provided.

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    sorry I tried to log on but no go..

    From your statement I would guess the BS being dealt is vicious dogs, killer yadayada yada ?  Tragically the only way to counter act this type of stereo type is to have better Breeders!   They have to refuse to sell dogs to folks who would use them ileagally, they have to breed out any aggressive tendancies and that would fly in face of the breed's standard. They would have to place all dogs on a s/n contract to prevent people from having "just one litter for the kids"  Responsible owners train , they don't complain . And Responsible breeders never want to know the breed they treasure will end up in ( brace yourself worst stero type I can think of comming here) a crack house guarding druggies, drug dealers and the dog fighting ring in the garage!  Until the lovers of ANY breed step up and refuse to allow them to be bred willy nilly things will get worse.

    Even though I have met, petted and cared for several wonderful show pits I would not allow one in my home around my grandchildren that came from the average breeder.  I could not in my heart feel 150% safe.  I hope you agree, you obviously love your furkid.

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    Well it was mainly how they made out Vick had done nothing wrong.... I went back and checked and the group is actually quite small and totally outnumbered by the vast number of people who want better breeders and are against BSL, that kind of thing.  But it still made me goggle at the page.  I just could not believe anyone would have thought processes like that!  A glimpse into the mind of "the other side" I think.

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    Sigh, I was having a crappy day already and this didn't help.

     

    People are idiots. Sad

    • Gold Top Dog

     

    I listen a great deal to sports radio ( not by choice :0) ) and I too was shocked by the number of sports stars who called in!!!  They kept saying ignorant things like " it's not like he killed a person    good grief...my response was simply EVEN if you can accept that moronic rationalization... how can you accept this man deliberately broke laws , funded ileagal activities and then ignored the rules of sports about gambling ??? Yes indeedy what a hero for our youth....

    makes me ill.

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    Ratsicles

    People are idiots. Sad

    agreed. 

    It really sounds like someone who has nothing better to do decided to write an "intelligent discussion" article to rile people up.  I try to ignore these.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Sorry, I should have read it through and removed the bad words!  Now that I think of it I have probably posted it in totally the wrong section anyway.... Sorry.

    • Gold Top Dog

     Wow...this makes my heart sad. Some people are really ignorant...

    • Gold Top Dog

    Chuffy

     I have probably posted it in totally the wrong section anyway....

    Why is this the wrong section?

    • Gold Top Dog
    Pure ignorance......... just really, really sad!! :( Oh, and btw, Michael Vick is taking classes with PETA to learn how to feel empathy for animals. I'm sure at this point he would do just about anything to play ball again. (I hope to never see this day) I wish I could feel positive about his true intentions......... sigh
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    cat0

    Chuffy

     I have probably posted it in totally the wrong section anyway....

    Why is this the wrong section?

    It isn't anymore but I THINK I posted it in General.  I was not having a good day yesterday, all in all.  Reading that didn't help.  It frazzled my brain. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Chuffy
    The pit bull was put on this planet to be an overly aggressive, mean oppps, bad words that aren't allowed here removed apart as a result. The American male was put on this planet to make money and be entertained by sports, the more carnage, the better, in some cases. All Mike Vick did was create a union between the instinctual desires of the American male, and the pit-bull.

    Blood sports have been around as long as people have been entertained. The Roman Coliseum was home to thousands of animal vs. animal and man vs. animal bouts, and they were looked at simply as money driven entertainment.

    Who out there can honestly say they have never removed the little plastic divider in their beta fish aquarium and watched the little devils turn the water red. It's entertaining and cheap to replace. Inhumane? Not as inhumane as putting two brightly colored fish in the same tank divided only be an invisible wall, when they want nothing more from life than to tear each other apart.

    This is getting long. To conclude: is it a horrible thing to watch two dogs go at each other until one of them is dead? Yes. But what causes this to happen. Sure Mike Vick may have starved, beaten and electricuted some of his dogs in order to develop his dog's skills, but that's only because he is a good business man, maybe a little cold and twisted, but a business man none the less, he wants to make as much money as a can. The actual killing instinct was provided by nature, and who are we do deny that.

     Wow.  I sure hope the person who wrote this diatribe doesn't have any pets or kids.  If he thinks it's "fun" to let Betta fish kill each other... um, wow.

    And to note, pit bulls were not "put on this planet".  Man molded a creature that descended from wild animals that would fight only for survival and even then only at extreme case and last resort, into something obscene for the pure sake of his enjoyment.  As for the statement about the colliseum, yes, that is what it was used for.  But somehow it seems that humans have evolved to a point where they don't think it's entertaining anymore.  Or at least not with a judge, gloves and time outs.  Confused