Breeders ( AKC) Vs AB1634 Video

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    Breeders ( AKC) Vs AB1634 Video

    Good TV interview on AB1634, with the correct title in my opinion.  The breeders against AB1634. They point out that pushing "education" which is the arguement that is used by the breeders, has already been tried in California for over 30 years.  It apparently is not getting the job done, because dogs by the thousands are killed in California shelters every week.

    http://www.cahealthypets.com/index12.htm
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    and again...education has resulted in lower euth rates...in Ca.
     
    Ca shelters and rescues were in La after Katrina pulling dogs to take BACK to Ca. why? If there is no room? Same with importing Satos, Mexican pups, etc.
     
    Round and round we go...
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    ORIGINAL: rwbeagles

    and again...education has resulted in lower euth rates...in Ca.
     
    Ca shelters and rescues were in La after Katrina pulling dogs to take BACK to Ca. why? If there is no room? Same with importing Satos, Mexican pups, etc.
     
    Round and round we go...


    They also took dogs in Georgia, from Katrina, and our shelters are full. It was to try and help out the thousands of dogs that needed rescue. not that the shelters were empty.
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    Education, like abstinence, works anywhere it's tried. Problem is, it's usually not tried nearly on the level that it requires to be generally effective.

    Education is a locally based tool. California is a big giant state, bigger than many European countries, and has many different regional cultures. There are places that are like the Southeast in their views of animal onwership, and places that are like the more progressive Northwest. San Francisco is more like a Northeastern urban center than any of its Western neighbors, while Los Angeles is just, well, unique. San Diego is a very conservative little town, but with progressive views - the "Crunchy Conservative" capital of the nation.

    What I'm saying is that you have to look at individual communities before passing judgement on the efficacy of an educational program. The best ones are those that are publically supported, with content driven by experts in the field - veterinarians, breeders, animal rescue workers, and trainers. The success of these programs, however, is overshadowed by the vast bulk of underfunded or underinformed communities that make up the fabric of the pet owning public in California.
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    ORIGINAL: brookcove

    Education, like abstinence, works anywhere it's tried. Problem is, it's usually not tried nearly on the level that it requires to be generally effective.

    Education is a locally based tool. California is a big giant state, bigger than many European countries, and has many different regional cultures. There are places that are like the Southeast in their views of animal onwership, and places that are like the more progressive Northwest. San Francisco is more like a Northeastern urban center than any of its Western neighbors, while Los Angeles is just, well, unique. San Diego is a very conservative little town, but with progressive views - the "Crunchy Conservative" capital of the nation.

    What I'm saying is that you have to look at individual communities before passing judgement on the efficacy of an educational program. The best ones are those that are publically supported, with content driven by experts in the field - veterinarians, breeders, animal rescue workers, and trainers. The success of these programs, however, is overshadowed by the vast bulk of underfunded or underinformed communities that make up the fabric of the pet owning public in California.


    You can educate some people until you are blue in the face, and people will still do what they are going to do. We have had a pro S/N program in place in Georgia for years, low cost S/N from around $50, and people still bring puppies to  the shelter and talk about how their dog "accidently" got pregnant and now they don't want the puppies.   You tell them that if they get caught witn an un S/N pet, they will get a $500 fine, and you will see an immediate difference. Not everyone will follow the new law, but enough to make an impact on the unwanted animals being born and dumped on society.

    http://agr.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,38902732_39914718_48591112,00.html
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    Bobsk8
    Not everyone will follow the new law, but enough to make an impact on the unwanted animals being born and dumped on society

    Glad you put it that way - being "born and dumped on society".  When you make things mandatory, sometimes "born and dumped on society" becomes "born and dumped in a lake".