NOTICE: CALIFORNIA DOG OWNERS

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    • Gold Top Dog

    One dog 2 many
    I think this is an unkind burden to place on bite victims no matter how unlikely the exposure.  For this reason, I think that governments are well within their authority to require all dogs to be adaquately vaccinated

     

    Of course it is within the govts authority to act in any illogical way they can get away with.  If your dog is allergic or has a weakened immune system, you can always visit the dog at the quarantine center, pet him for a while, and pay the kennel bills.  Or you have the shot and watch the dog die.  I didn't see any exceptions for any reason when I read the post.  Did I miss it. 

    I really hate it when an ignorant person has the power to pass laws based on his/her ignorance and cause me pain or expense. And this law is going to hurt a few people and probably kill a few dogs. I guess you have to decide at what point common sense and reality overcome the need to feel secure from improbable dangers.

    The reality is that any kid in the U.S. is more apt to die in a car accident than from a dog bite, and that well over 90% of cases are spread by wildlife.  If the science shows that a three year vac schedule works, why use a one year.  From vaccineinformation.org:

    What should I do if a neighborhood dog bites my child?
    Rabies is not common in dogs, cats, ferrets, and livestock in the United States because most are vaccinated against rabies. However, you should get medical attention for any animal bite. If the pet appeared healthy at the time your child was bitten, it can be confined for 10 days and observed; no anti-rabies treatment need be given to your child. If the pet appeared ill at the time it bit your child, it should be evaluated by a veterinarian for signs of rabies. Your physician will be able to give you more specific advice for your situation.

     

     

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       According to Dr. Ronald Schultz of the University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine, "There is no benefit from annual rabies vaccination and most one year rabies products are similar or identical to the 3-year products with regard to duration of immunity and effectiveness. However, if they are 1 year rabies vaccines, they must be legally given annually!" from What Everyone Needs to Know about Canine Vaccines 
     
        In an April 1, 2008 DVM360 article entitled, Canine Vaccine Update (Proceedings)http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/avhc/Medicine/Canine-vaccine-update-Proceedings/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/562405 by Dr. Craig Datz states that, "..some brands of rabies vaccine are identical whether labeled as 1- or 3-year..."
     
        If you click on this link http://www.calmanimalcare.com/vaccine.htm , you will be taken to the Calm Animal Care website, which has posted Colorado State University's Small Animal Vaccination Protocol for its veterinary teaching hospital.   In their protocol, it states:  "Even with rabies vaccines, the label may be misleading in that a three year duration of immunity product may also be labeled and sold as a one year duration of immunity product."
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    I've just written a letter to the Committee on behalf of The Rabies Challenge Fund and sent it off to Dr. Dodds for her okay.  As soon as she gives the word, I'll send out an action alert, it will have contact information for all of the committee members in it and lots of data.

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    DougB
    If your dog is allergic or has a weakened immune system, you can always visit the dog at the quarantine center, pet him for a while, and pay the kennel bills

    The problem with that is the dogs that ARE in need of the waiver -- dogs who have had immune-mediated problems like immune-mediated hemolytic anemia, thrombocytopenia, pancytopenia ... having them be quarantined usually means you can NOT visit them.

    It also means no one will give them their meds and make sure they eat WHAT they **Must** eat (which typically is NOT regular kibble) and **when** they must eat (which is often in a very structured relationship with their meds.

    In short -- for most of these compromised animals this would be a long slow death sentence.  And often when these animals have been so restricted that there is no possible opportunity for them TO be rabies positive.  In fact, most of these dogs are SO immune-compromised that putting them in a shelter environment alone would likely mean death.

    I know you aren't arguing for -- but no one is really 'getting' what Kris is actually saying here. 

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    Kris L. Christine

    I've just written a letter to the Committee on behalf of The Rabies Challenge Fund and sent it off to Dr. Dodds for her okay.  As soon as she gives the word, I'll send out an action alert, it will have contact information for all of the committee members in it and lots of data.

    I CAN'T WAIT for Kris's next post.  PLEASE FOLKS -- when she posts this WRITE to these lawmakers.  I don't care if you live in Alaska, Maine or Florida or all the points in the world furthest from California.

    These letters do a TON of good -- Kris, along with Dr. Dodds and Dr. Schultz, have made a HUGE impact all over the US in getting states to adopt a 3 year protocol instead of a one year.  This, in and of itself, is HUGE.

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    One dog 2 many
    think this is an unkind burden to place on bite victims no matter how unlikely the exposure.  For this reason, I think that governments are well within their authority to require all dogs to be adaquately vaccinated (and I wish they would step it up on the other measures you mentioned).

     

    BUT - who's to say what is adequate, and what is not? Like Callie said - they are forming studies that prove that a rabies vaccine is good in an animal on upwards of SEVEN years! SEVEN. not one, 7. So why should anyone tell me that I HAVE to vaccinate my pet every year, for something that he is already protected against!? 

    Do you vaccinate your child against hep every year? No. You don't. Why should I do the same for my dog.

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    calliecritturs
    The problem with that is the dogs that ARE in need of the waiver -- dogs who have had immune-mediated problems like immune-mediated hemolytic anemia, thrombocytopenia, pancytopenia ... having them be quarantined usually means you can NOT visit them.

     

    You are of course correct.  I, for a second there, was thinking that a politician would be compassionate.  I know better.  Do they want the dogs summarily PTS .  This sounds almost like a PETA project. 

    Apparently, you have no need to prove there is a problem if you are a politician with a cause.

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    erica1989
    So why should anyone tell me that I HAVE to vaccinate my pet every year, for something that he is already protected against!? 

    See, I have no problem just refusing the vaccines.  But, then something happens and I'm playing by their rules.  And, as far as what I read in the new rabies law here, it's regardless of whether you have the exemption or not. 

    What would be better is making the titers mandatory and then vaccinations if the titers suggest it's needed.  That way, everyone is covered.  But, it will never work because even my vet said the state is always going to go overboard covering itself and giving itself leeway in case people don't comply.  That's why they've been giving vaccines that are good for three years yearly.  So, the dogs are technically still considered vaccinated.  That's why they "watch" the dog for so many days now first before they required a person to undergo treatment.  With these new laws, if people are even one day over they are going to be considered unvaccinated. 

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    Politicians want things neatly packaged.  A law to say "do this" -- problem solved.  (and don't cloud the issue with the facts please)

    The problem with laws is they never seem to keep an eye on what IS and is NOT enforceable.  Trying to mandate rabies by LAW assumes that all are going to obey the law.  The problem REALLY here is that no one is obeying the laws ALREADY in place -- like leash laws, keeping dogs licensed *which aLWAYS includes current rabies in every state* -- if THOSE were enforced there would be no further need.

    Virtually EVERY vet and wildlife worker gets vaccinated for rabies.  (YEAH - actually they DO) - but do THEY get vaccinated every year?  You bet your sweet bippy NOT.  Maybe once when they were in vet school or when they started their job -- but they might titer to see if their own is sufficient (and my vet says her rabies vax was like 15 years ago and she STILL titers sky high every year). 

    And yet they say to vaccinate the dogs *more*?  It's marketing folks -- and we buy it every time we go to the polls.

    OR NOT.

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    At the bottom of this post is a copy of the letter I sent on behalf of The Rabies Challenge Fund on this issue.

    What You Can Do to Help

    Call the Senate Rules Committee and call or send an e-mail to all its members telling them to withdraw Paragraph (2) of the amendment pertaining to quarantining medically exemption animals and strike language in Section 121690 (b) of the law authorizing the Health Department to impose annual or biennial rabies vaccinations in "rabies areas."

    The phone number for the California Senate Rules Committee is (916) 651-4120
    Chair of the Committee is Senator Darrell Steinberg e-mail: Senator.Steinberg@senate.ca.gov (916) 651-4006
    Vice-chair Sam Aanestad Senator.Aanestad@senate.ca.gov (916) 651-4004
    Gilbert Cedillo Senator.Cedillo@senate.ca.gov (916) 651-4022
    Robert Dutton Senator.Dutton@senate.ca.gov (916) 651-4031
    Jenny Oropeza Senator.Oropeza@senate.ca.gov (916) 651-4028
    Bill Co-Sponsor Assembly Member Curt Hagman Assemblymember.Hagman@assembly.ca.gov (916) 319-2060

    Letter from The Rabies Challenge Fund


    May 15, 2010

    Senator Darrell Steinberg, Chair
    Senate Rules Committee
    State Capitol, Room 205
    Sacramento, CA 94248-0001

    RE: Amended Rabies Bill AB2000

    Greetings Senator Steinberg:

    The Rabies Challenge Fund Charitable Trust respectfully requests that the Senate Rules Committee withdraw Paragraph (2) of the April 5th amendment to AB2000 which mandates that “A dog exempt from the canine antirabies vaccination shall be kept quarantined, as directed by the local health officer, until the dog's medical condition has resolved and the administration of the canine antirabies vaccine occurs.” This amendment seeks to address a public health threat which does not exist in the canine community, and which will, if passed, pose a life-threatening risk to dogs whose health is already compromised.

    California’s Department of Public Health (CDPH) statistics clearly demonstrate that bats and other wildlife pose the greatest rabies threat to the public, not dogs. From 2001 through 2008, the CDPH reported 2 cases of human rabies contracted in the state, both of which were transmitted by bats. Further, according to data contained in the annual Reported Animal Rabies by County and Species issued by the CDPH, from the period of 2001 through May 7, 2010, (throughout which time all counties had been designated “rabies areas”), dogs were among the species with the least number of rabies cases in California. During the cited surveillance period 1,440 bats, 462 skunks, 74 foxes, 11 cats, and 5 dogs were reported as rabid.

    The Center for Disease Control documented 32 cases of domestically-contracted cases of human rabies in the U.S. from 1995 through 2008 – 30 illnesses were transmitted by bats, 1 by fox, and 1 by raccoon. Since 1995, there have been no reported cases of human rabies from exposure to an indigenous dog in this country, and no demonstrated need exists for the California Legislature to pass harsh rabies regulations targeting dogs.

    Further, The Rabies Challenge Fund asks that the Committee strike the following bolded, underlined language in the current law under Section 121690 (b) which is reiterated in AB2000 as follows: “(b) Every dog owner, after his or her dog attains the age of four months, shall, at intervals of time not more often than once a year, as may be prescribed by the department, procure its vaccination by a licensed veterinarian with a canine antirabies vaccine approved by, and in a manner prescribed by, the department, unless a licensed veterinarian determines, on an annual basis, that the dog may have a potentially lethal reaction to the canine antirabies vaccine. is currently immune compromised or has a documented medical record of a preexisting condition, including, but not limited to, an immune mediated disease, or a serious adverse reaction to a prior canine antirabies vaccine.”

    Mandating rabies vaccinations more often than once every 3 years, even in designated “rabies areas,” goes against the recommendations of all the national veterinary medical associations, including the American Veterinary Medical Association [1] and the Center for Disease Control’s National Association of State Public Health Veterinarian’s Compendium of Animal Rabies Prevention and Control 2008 which states that, “Vaccines used in state and local rabies control programs should have at least a 3-year duration of immunity. This constitutes the most effective method of increasing the proportion of immunized dogs and cats in any population.”

    Section 121690 (b) of the Health and Safety Code may violate California’s Consumer Protection Law by requiring pet owners to pay for a veterinary medical procedure from which their animals derive no benefit and may be harmed. The section of the law requiring biennial or annual rabies boosters in “rabies areas” may have been intended to achieve enhanced immunity to the rabies virus by giving the vaccine more often than the federal 3-year licensing standard, but, more frequent vaccination than is required to fully immunize an animal will not achieve further disease protection. Redundant rabies shots needlessly expose dogs to the risk of adverse effects while obligating residents to pay unnecessary veterinary medical fees. The American Veterinary Medical Association's 2001 Principles of Vaccination state that “Unnecessary stimulation of the immune system does not result in enhanced disease resistance, and may increase the risk of adverse post-vaccination events.”

    The 3 year rabies vaccines currently licensed by the USDA for dogs all have a minimum duration of immunity of 3 years proven by challenge studies (the definitive standard in vaccine research) conducted according to the licensing standards set forth in USDA Title 9 Part 113.209. Serological studies performed by Dr. Ronald Schultz of the University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine show a minimum duration of immunity of 7 years. According to the Center for Disease Control, "A fully vaccinated dog or cat is unlikely to become infected with rabies…. In a nationwide study of rabies among dogs and cats in 1988,….no documented vaccine failures occurred among dogs or cats that had received two vaccinations. " [2]

    Immunologically, the rabies vaccine is the most potent of the veterinary vaccines and associated with significant adverse reactions such as polyneuropathy “resulting in muscular atrophy, inhibition or interruption of neuronal control of tissue and organ function, incoordination, and weakness, ”[3] auto-immune hemolytic anemia,[4] autoimmune diseases affecting the thyroid, joints, blood, eyes, skin, kidney, liver, bowel and central nervous system; anaphylactic shock; aggression; seizures; epilepsy; and fibrosarcomas at injection sites are all linked to the rabies vaccine.[5] Devil It is medically unsound for this vaccine to be given more often than is necessary to maintain immunity.

    A “killed” vaccine, the rabies vaccine contains adjuvants to enhance the immunological response. In 1999, the World Health Organization “classified veterinary vaccine adjuvants as Class III/IV carcinogens with Class IV being the highest risk, "[7] and the results of a study published in the August 2003 Journal of Veterinary Medicine documenting fibrosarcomas at the presumed injection sites of rabies vaccines stated, “In both dogs and cats, the development of necrotizing panniculitis at sites of rabies vaccine administration was first observed by Hendrick & Dunagan (1992).Music According to the 2003 AAHA Guidelines, "...killed vaccines are much more likely to cause hypersensitivity reactions (e.g., immune-mediated disease)." [9]

    On behalf of The Rabies Challenge Fund Charitable Trust and the many concerned California pet owners who have requested our assistance, I strongly urge you to withdraw Paragraph (2) of the April 5th amendment to AB2000 and strike the language in the current law cited in the bill authorizing the CDPH to impose annual or biennial rabies boosters in “rabies areas.”

    Sincerely,
    Kris L. Christine
    Founder, Co-Trustee
    THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND
    www.RabiesChallengeFund.org
    ledgespring@lincoln.midcoast.com

    cc: W. Jean Dodds, DVM
    Ronald D. Schultz, PhD
    Assembly Member Curt Hagman

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    [1] American Veterinary Medical Association, Veterinary Biologics, June 2007, “Rabies Vaccination Procedures”

    [2] Immunization Practices Advisory Committee, Rabies Prevention—United States, 1991 Recommendations of the Immunization Practices Advisory Committee, Center for Disease Control Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report March 22, 1991/40(RR03);1-19

    [3] Dodds, W. Jean Vaccination Protocols for Dogs Predisposed to Vaccine Reactions, The Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association, May/June 2001, Vol. 37, pp. 211-214

    [4] Duval D., Giger U.Vaccine-Associated Immune-Mediated Hemolytic Anemia in the Dog, Journal of Veterinary Internal Medicine 1996; 10:290-295

    [5] American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) Executive Board, April 2001, Principles of Vaccination, Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, Volume 219, No. 5, September 1, 2001.

    Devil Vascelleri, M. Fibrosarcomas at Presumed Sites of Injection in Dogs: Characteristics and Comparison with Non-vaccination Site Fibrosarcomas and Feline Post-vaccinal Fibrosarcomas; Journal of Veterinary Medicine, Series A August 2003, vol. 50, no. 6, pp. 286-291.

    [7] IARC Monographs on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans: Volume 74, World Health Organization, International Agency for Research on Cancer, Feb. 23-Mar. 2, 1999, p. 24, 305, 310.

    Music Vascelleri, M. Fibrosarcomas at Presumed Sites of Injection in Dogs: Characteristics and Comparison with Non-vaccination Site Fibrosarcomas and Feline Post-vaccinal Fibrosarcomas; Journal of Veterinary Medicine, Series A August 2003, vol. 50, no. 6, pp. 286-291.

    [9] American Animal Hospital Association Canine Vaccine Task Force. 2003 Canine Vaccine Guidelines, Recommendations, and Supporting Literature, 28pp. and ibid. 2006 AAHA Canine Vaccine Guidelines, Revised, 28 pp.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I will do this tomorrow! (today -- it's just struck midnight!)

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    UPDATE:  Assembly Member Curt Hagman and his staff are responding to the public outcry over the quarantine clause in AB 2000 and working hard to find suitable language to substitute. 
     
    Dog Owners Say Rabies Vaccination Exemption Could Lead To Quarantines, by Lonnie Wong Fox 40 May 20, 2010 http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-tv-rabiesvaccinationrestrictions,0,5632202.story
     
    "That amounts to a lifetime quarantine for her dog.

    But Hagman says that was not his intention. He says he's trying to remove the word "quarantine" from the bill so that animals in Louie's situation would not be confiscated."
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    LETTERS DO WORK!!!

    • Gold Top Dog

    Done.  I sure hope somethign comes of this. I haven't vaccinated my girls since they had their severe reactions to the rabies vaccine (by ft. dodge) a few years ago.  It takes them MONTHS to recover, they change and are depressed and spooky and clearly do not feel well.

    Overvaccinating is clearly not the answer. Ugh.

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    AB 2000 -- I received the following e-mail from Assembly Member Hagman last night:

    Thank you for contacting me to express your concerns over paragraph 2 in AB 2000, Molly’s Bill, which states that a dog exempt from the canine anti-rabies vaccination shall be kept quarantined as directed by the local health officer, until the dog's medical condition has resolved and the administration of the canine anti-rabies vaccine occurs.

    When sponsoring this bill, it was definitely not my intent to cause pet owners to be forced to quarantine their animals for an indeterminable and possible indefinite amount of time. AB 2000’s main goal is to provide anti-rabies vaccination flexibility for dogs with pre-existing health problems. It will create an exemption from anti-rabies vaccine for dogs when a licensed veterinarian determines they are likely to have lethal reactions to the vaccine.

    I believe that the anti-rabies vaccine is a very important safety and health measure, but it is common-sense for us to create exemptions for those few instances when the health of the canine could be severely affected by the vaccine. Dogs are our best friends, even members of our family, and we should make sure that we are flexible enough to keep them safe.

    Thank you for bringing your concerns to my attention. My staff and I are working on modifying the wording of this bill to clarify its original intent. When this matter has been resolved, please join me in supporting AB 2000 so we can move forward in further giving protection to our family pets.

    Thank you. Please do not hesitate to call me at 916-319-2060 should you have any additional questions or concerns.

    Sincerely

    Assemblyman Curt Hagman
    District 60

    • Gold Top Dog

    Wow -- like I said, getting involved HELPS!!!