That's it- I wanna LITTLE dog! Spin off!

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    That's it- I wanna LITTLE dog! Spin off!

    Big Smile Thought this would be a good thread to brag about your little dogs and the pros and cons of owning them.

    Someday I would like to own a little dog (10-15lbs). Not to "baby", but a dog that can run and hike with me all day and that is easier to travel with. Basically, I think I might want a small dog with a big dog heart. DH and I aren't having children because when we're older (10+ years from now) we want to travel more (and buy the nice boat we've been saving for, lol) and I think I'd like a small dog to come with. Don't get me wrong, I love Apollo more than anything- he's my heart dog, but a 100+lbs dog is very difficult to travel with (Great Dane size crate, xl size bed, finding a hotel that accepts large dogs...and I like nice hotels, not the Econolodge, lol). We're always going to have a Lab (probably always rescue too), but the next ones I want around 60lbs!

     Patty & Molson are great size dogs...they're 23-24lbs. I love that they can keep up w/ me and Apollo. Their beds and crates fit anywhere. The only thing I really don't like is the grooming- $100 +tip every 2 months is crazy, but it's worth it. I don't think I'll ever own a breed that needs this much grooming again. I love Apollo's short fur.

    Also, any breed recommendions for me to look at for now? Short fur, healthy breed, high energy, usually gets along w/ dogs, 10-15lbs (or less).....? (No Whippets or Italian Greyhounds or any breed like that...I don't care for the look for myself- sorry)

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    Off the top of my head, some of these dogs might work: mini schnauzer (though you are stuck with some grooming again), boston terrier, or JRT (possible dog to dog issues?). Our mini is 15 lbs ful grown, plays like a big dog (thinks she's a malinois like the other two), is very hardy, but also a big cuddler. A family member owns a bostie and describes him similarly; our next dog may be a bostie.
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    I have four dogs, one of which is a "little" Yorkshire Terrier.  She weighs 6 pounds, and is 20 years old.  Before she went deaf and blind, she was an awesome, clicker savvy little girl who could do most of the things my big dogs can.  She still managed to come to the training center for her 20th birthday and participate in the play group!  She finds her way around by scent, and still meets me with a wag when I tap her twice on her little butt.

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    spiritdogs

    She still managed to come to the training center for her 20th birthday and participate in the play group!

    Anne, I think that's awesome! Whatta trooper! :)

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    All 3 of my dogs are small, but for the type of dog you are looking for.... Gobie is an oversized minpin, 13" tall, 14lbs. He is super TOUGH (even at 13+ yrs now), sturdy, can go jog or hike or boating, camping and much more. He has been like having a big dog personality wise anyway.  We always joke if he were a big dog he'd be a very gamey pibble!

    He's been very healthy over the years. Most of his sick vet visits were due to cuts and injuries.  This little dog just does not know when to stop and would get ouchies.

    But, total PITA when it comes to housetraining. He still marks inside. He has been neutered since 9 months.  He is very barky and territorial.  I will never, ever have another one. and I NEVER say 'never!'

    THe next small dog I want is a Lowchen, followed by a mini or toy poodle followed by another bichon

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    To be perfectly blunt (er when am I anything BUT?) I honestly think this "widdle baby dog" stuff is all in people's HEADS -- not in the dog's minds.  My very first dog was a peke/pom mix -- and I trained her to do all the same things my 50 pound     poodle/terrier mix did.  She just fit in my bike basket easier than Pip did.  (no joke)

    Our dogs always go -- and we take ONE dane-sized crate with us so all stay in one crate while we're gone (because we don't leave them for very long).

    Most hotels/motels now really don't have huge issues -- sometimes you get people a bit weird about "dangerous dogs" (*sigh*) but otherwise it's all the same.

    Little dogs can sometimes be a bit of a concern over not getting out of the way the same as a big dog -- but honestly I find big dogs more difficult to navigate around than smaller ones.

    It's honestly mostly in how you deal with them and what you expect from them.  My "little" dogs aren't allowed to be any more barky, full of attitude or unpleasant than my other dogs -- regardless of size. 

    For ME, my #1 reason for the size of my dogs has to do with ME -- I truly have a **huge** issue that I don't think people should have a dog bigger than they can carry.  If you gotta get a dog to the vet -- injured, very very sick, etc. -- you better be able to lift that dog.  Because they ALL get old.  Ultimately somebuddy is gonna get sick. 

     Our dogs and our rescues will likely get progressively smaller if at all possible simply because I gotta be able to get them TO the car and IN the car.  I routinely have to carry Kee Shu and I literally put her in a shoulder bag because I need *both* hands going down my own steps (just FOUR but they are there!) so a purse I can hang over my shoulder keeps it "do-able".  If I had to carry Billy I *could* -- I can put him in a swaddle and tie him to me.

    Ms. Socks was a boxer/pit mix -- and my days of a bigger dog like that are o-v-e-r.  I'm not going to ignore a dog's health care just because I physically can't lift them to get them help.

    I'm not scolding anyone -- remember, I'm somewhat handicapped myself so this is a huge mega issue for *me*.  But ... I'm the one prone to shove this in folks' faces -- maybe people love a bigger breed, but if they are also older and know they can't "lift" the dog (even if they do it together) then I think it's a bit silly to take something on you know you can't handle.

    BTW -- look into one of those foldable fabric crates -- if you teach them to respect it, it can absolutely rock for travelling.

    I'm not saying don't get a smaller dog -- but no matter what size you get -- just treat it the same as you treat the others, expect the same out of it -- don't hover and snatch it up JUST because you can.  Now if the dog is in phycial danger (like Pirate was when attacked) then pick the dog up.  But just picking a little dog up to avoid having to train it -- that's a human problem not a dog problem.

    Did that make sense??

    And btw -- Prissy -- my pom/peke mix who was my first dog?  She used to ride on my shoulder (front legs in front, back legs in back) and thot it was THE awesomest place ever 

    But both Tink and Luna (opposite ends of the size spectrum really -- Luna's only a "little" dog because she's sawed off.  Tink's only a little dog because she has to stay trim to fly thru the air (it's a pixie pug in training RULE you know).  But both of them have been to the Miss Callie School of Hotel/Inn training for dogs. 

    That means I don't let them bark at hotels/motels -- I take them down to reception and SIT THERE (with a bag of treats).  Every new person who comes in from the street I say 'see -- now they have to go see the People in Charge before they can stay ...." sure enuf -- everbuddy goes to the front desk ... checks in and walks awy with a key (or walks back out the front door). 

    Then I say "See -- the People In Charge said it's OK!     So.... no barking!"

    Yes, I do this over and over -- I reinforce the quiet behavior but make the dog SEE (yes I expect some dog logic here) that it's those folks at the front desk who have the POWER.  Soooooo you can't go down the hall and bark -- NOR can you bark in the room, cos if peoples are outside your door -- it's because the PEOPLE IN CHARGE said it was "ok". 

    I repeat that phrase ad nauseum -- in reception, outside, in the halls, in the room -- In fact I take them TO the people in reception to "meet" the People In Charge (and often I set this up before hand so they know to tell them 'No barking now ..." and then treats and a "good JOB -- good no barking!!" when we go back to the room.

    I've only had to do that typically twice with each dog.  And      now we have dogs who don't bark in motel rooms.  Now -- that carries over at home.  I'm in a city where barking is just plain NOT kewel -- so nobuddy can have a barkfest at home either.

    Doesn't matter their size -- it's all the same rules. 

    But it is darned fun to carry a dog on your shoulder tho!

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    Steph, I understand exactly where you are coming from on this one. lol  I did years and years of traveling with a minimum of two Labs and it is harder to travel with large dogs.  Carrying crates up stairs and the supplies that large dogs require are well, large. lol  Towel, bowls, food, it all requires more room, more time to pack and load and transfer. Of course, this was traveling to dog events and that requred even more supplies.  I wouldn't trade those days for anything but when it comes to traveling for pleasure a small dog is much easier.  As for breed, terriers would suit an active lifestyle and so would Paps.  As for the shedding, Twister is a semi rough coat JRT and he sheds a ton.  Mini poodles are active, fun dogs who make great pets for active, travelers.  I love my big dogs but if we want to go for an easy weekend getaway, Twister is easy to grab and go. It's not about being cute and little and baby sized, it's about logistics and physics.  He's all dog and has no concept of his size and I love that too.

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    BlackLabbie

    spiritdogs

    She still managed to come to the training center for her 20th birthday and participate in the play group!

    Anne, I think that's awesome! Whatta trooper! :)

     

    She just walked around in the middle of the hall and when dogs would come up, she'd give 'em a sniff and keep going - once or twice, she would wag.  Those must have been the dogs that smelled the best that day.  She was always a very social dog:-)  She grew up with all kinds of animals in Mike's mom's house - even ferrets that had the run of the house.

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    JackieG

    It's not about being cute and little and baby sized, it's about logistics and physics.

    Exactly!

    We were just talking to one of our friends and they have a Pom/Maltese mix (bought as a designer dog, ugh), they're going away for a 2 day mini vaca to Maine...they just grabbed the 2 little bowls, a zip lock w/ food, the little crate, and a few small toys and off they went! I was a little jealous. Traveling with Apollo it's like a jigsaw puzzle trying to fit his HUGE crate (folded up), XL dog bed, 2 big bowls, and HIM (lol) in my Chevy Blazer- not to mention Pat & Mo and their stuff too. Oh yeah- and our stuff and us! We have to pack the night before because it does take awhile.

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     Steph, I think a corgi would be perfect for you. A little over your weight limit, but not much: 25 lbs. Very portable, will definitely keep up with an active lifyestyle, aims to please, excellent off- leash and super adorable!

    ETA: Loves swimming, fetch and new things. Did I mention cute?Wink

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     I said, today, as I was hauling a Doberman's soft crate, "I like my little dogs!". I was asked, "Why?". LITTLE STUFF!!! I totally agree!

     

    The terriers tend to be feistier, and in general, they are not as easy as other breeds around dogs.  You don't want anything too fluffy, and you don't want anything whispy looking or delicate, so.... A smaller Beagle could be really great for you. They're pretty healthy, sturdy dogs, and LOVE activities where there are plenty of smells. That's the best one I can think of that's healthy, sturdy, and plays well with others, as a rule.

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    tiffy

     Steph, I think a corgi would be perfect for you. A little over your weight limit, but not much: 25 lbs. Very portable, will definitely keep up with an active lifyestyle, aims to please, excellent off- leash and super adorable!

    I never even though of them! DH is totally in love with them and has wanted one way before we even got Apollo!

    tiffy

    ETA: Loves swimming, fetch and new things. Did I mention cute?Wink

    IMO, they're seriously one of the cutest dogs out there.

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    SHIBA INUS!! I love spitzes lol I think males are like 20 lbs and females are around 17. They are double coated though but dont require any real grooming that you have to pay for. They're also adorable :)

    I'm internally debating whether my next dog will be a shiba inu or a german shepherd 

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    JackieG
    Carrying crates up stairs and the supplies that large dogs require are well, large. lol  Towel, bowls, food, it all requires more room, more time to pack and load and transfer

    And see when you've got 3 of your 4 with health issues, the joke in OUR house is that it's the meds and "stuff" that is all the crap to lug.  Luna's "stuff" is a fraction of any of the rest of them.

     

     

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    While I'm a little biased, Mini Schnauzers would fit the general description of what you're looking for. Lots of energy, can keep up with the best of them......but they are also adaptable and won't destroy the house if you are ill for a few days or it's stormy and they can't get a lot of exercise. They are active little things though and thrive with lots of mental stimulation. They do not shed...one huge pro for me!! They love to work, although they sometimes have their own agendas....haha. They do need grooming every 8 weeks or so, but if you don't like to do it you can take it to a groomer.

    They are "terriers" in that some of them have quite a feisy attitude.......but you can find a broad spectrum of terrierness depending on the line you get it from.

    I love my little dogs. After caring for Aspen for even just a week I realize why I have little guys right now...lol.....he eats in one meal what my three all eat in one day combined!!! And his kennel is so wide I can barely get it through doors...lol...it does NOT  fit in my car. I love the size of things they need, Everything is so space efficient, and generally cost effiicient!!! Big Smile