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    • Gold Top Dog
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    • Puppy
    Just for clarity.  Going around taking pics of people is not a form of stalking, at least not legally.  If it were, there would be no papparazzi at least not outside of jail.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I think it's kind of a different situation for celebrities.  It's an expected part of the "fame" package for them and they realize  that a lot of people are "celebrity crazy" anyway.  It's totally different for just an average woman walking her dog to be followed and photographed, especially after she made it  clear that she didn't want it to continue.  If not considered stalking, it certainly would be considered harrassment.
     
    Joyce
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    bluesbaryby
    Going around taking pics of people is not a form of stalking, at least not legally. If it were, there would be no papparazzi at least not outside of jail. 

    I believe you will find that the rules are different for public personalities than for ordinary citizens.
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    • Gold Top Dog
    i dont know if you saw the "Family Secrets" show on local network, but there was an episode of a girl's step dad who was secretly video taping her while she would get dressed in her room. he had been secretly taking pictures of her since she was 15. it wasnt against the law to do that EITHER. does that make it right? i mean... he was her step dad after all.... and she was "legal".. so its ok.
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    • Gold Top Dog
    Moderator speaking...
     
    Discussions of stalking, photography, video and paparazzi laws and their impact on your average citizen...would be a great thing to discuss in a new thread in NDR...since it is not dog related.
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    • Gold Top Dog
    we can assume all we want about these guys.. she may not even know... if you live in apartment then no you dont have a yard. yes she was in a public area... yes they followed her on purpose. that is what we know.

    taking pictures with someone accidentally inthe background is one thing... following them around once you discover they dont want to be in your pictures is just plain being a butt head.
    so is it still ok that they followed her around taking pictures of her even though she didnt like it? my brother is a cop, in this situation even he would have given them the "move along" shuffle.... because its disturbing the peace. its disturbing an individual. no he wouldnt have filed a huge police report about it.... but he would have understood her discomfort very well.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Luvntzus

    I'm so mad right now! Twice in this past week there's been an "incident" when I was out walking my dogs, minding my own business! The one that happened about 20 minutes ago is the one that I'm fuming about.

    I had Gingerbread and Fudge on a grassy area right next to my apartment complex. There were 3 older teenagers by another building across the sidewalk from me. One of them was taking a picture of the other 2 using a disposable camera and I realized that I was in the distant background. So I walked over to another area and who do you think comes over to snap ANOTHER picture with me in the background. [&o] This time they were only a few feet away and I realized that they were doing it on purpose so I told the dogs "let's go" and walked REALLY fast down the sidewalk and around a corner to another open area. Guess who comes around the corner!?! I walked straight towards them, glaring at them and passed by them. At that point I was headed towards home. So as the 3 of them were walking away, one of them turned over his should and snapped a picture of me. I was PISSED at this point so I yelled "I don't want to be in your pictures, so stop it!" [:@] I just glared at all three of them as they walked away; one them looked like "sorry, we shouldn't have done that". What a bunch of hoodlums! I didn't have my cell phone, otherwise I would have called the police. I'm not going walking again without my cell. My husband is actually on his way home from work right now. I called him just to vent and he decided he'd feel safer coming home. I didn't expect that, but I'm not going to complain about being able to spend time with him. [;)]

    The other incident happened a few days ago. AGAIN, I was walking Gingerbread and Fudge, minding my own business. We were on our way home from a walk and I saw a guy coming up the sidewalk towards us, so I moved the dogs and I to the area next to the sidewalk. As the guy walked towards us he showed NO interest in the dogs. After he went by, he lunged for Fudge. I was like "what the" and Fudge had darted out of the way. The guy then said in a surprised voice- "oh, is he pettable". [:-] I said "yeah, but you can't just go swooping in on him like that, you have to let him go up to you". He nodded his head and at that point he was standing there, waiting for Fudge to come over and I said "I think you should just leave him be because you scared him" and the guy goes- "okay, I'll keep that in mind". I felt like I was talking to a little kid. [&:] The guy looked totally normal, but obviously he wasn't normal. *Edited to add. Fudge was really shy with people when I first got him. As in, growling and backing away when people wanted to pet him. I kept having friendly people over to our place and letting him see people from a distance when we went walking, going over when/if he was comfortable. He's recently gotten to the point that he actually WANTS to go over to people. He wags his tail and lets them pet him without shying away. If that guy had grabbed him or something like that, it could have really set him back and made him scared of people all over again. It's a little scary because I don't know exactly what the guy's intentions were.

    Another time, a few months ago (I posted about this in the NDR section) I was eating with my husband at Denny's late at night and there was a guy outside the window that exposed himself (less than a foot away from me) [:(] and was doing.... well, you can google the archives I guess if you care for the details. Suffice it to say, it was disgusting and I felt truly violated. I was in shock at the time. I called the police the next day and it was too late to do anything about it. [&o]

    So basically, I'm getting really tired of being assaulted by other peole when I'm out minding my own business! Grrrr! Thanks for listening to my vent.



    I'm so sorry this happened to you! Teenagers or not I would have been just as scared. You don't know there intentions and teenagers can be just as cruel/ scary as an adult, to me there is no difference. A guy is a guy, and if he's making me uncomfortible or scared I'm going to look for help.
    As for the dog incident it really doesn't sound like that guy was in the right state of mind. An adult should know better. I have seen young children act better than that guy. I hope this doesn't happen to you again.
    • Gold Top Dog
    No one at this Denny's called the police?  Denny's have windows surrounding 2/3 of the store.  I can't believe no one else called.