Why do owners who retire their show dog rehome them???

Talk to me directly and explain how one is not selfish justification and the other is exploitation. I am reasonable. I listen. I can understand and I will work at seeing the other side. Its your turn.

So....tell me what you would do in Chopper's situation, k?  She was born, she was placed in a great, loving home where everyone loved her and even took her to work every day.  She got to do obedience classes and agility classes.  She got to strut her stuff at shows.  She had a litter of puppies (she LOVES puppies, in fact, she liked to sit in the whelping box with another dog who recently had puppies).  One day she was at work with her owner and went outside to potty, but there was some very loud noise, she spooked, and she ran away.  The owner searched and finally got her back, but this was a very bad experience for Chopper.  She didn't mind her family, except the one person who happened to be supervising her outside when she was spooked.  She was nervous, anxious, skittish, and obviously did not want to be around this person.  It was causing her great stress even though she made it back home, safe and sound.  The owner felt terrible forcing this dog to be around someone she didn't want to be around.  As per the contract, the owner and breeder decided it would be best for her to return to the breeder where she felt comfortable and find a new home without all the stress and anxiety.  She has been back with her breeder for a long time now and they would never consider "dumping" or "discarding" her in a shelter or giving her to anyone that couldn't offer an even better home than themselves.

So, basically what you're telling me is that my breeder is bad, unethical, and dishonorable because she feels that a dog that she willingly took BACK into her home deserves a forever home where she will get far more attention and be able to continue with the training and sports she was already excelling at?  That's like me saying you are unethical because you rehome your foster dogs and don't keep them all for yourself.  Obviously, I do not think that, but how can you say those things about posters here and then call yourself more honorable?

ORIGINAL: Liesje

If you think I'm a terrible person for wanting a German Shepherd and want to assume that I never looked at dogs in shelters or never considered other breeds or mixes (both untrue), that's your prerogative, but it makes it seem like you don't think dogs exist for any purposes other than being home companions.

 
I don't think you are a terrible.  I am just sharing my views and my experiences.  It is impossible for you to look at ALL dogs available.  I started doing showings and agility competition with a Great Dane but like you my interested faded.  That stuff is no long important to me. 
 
When I bring in a new foster into my home I don't know anything about the dog or its behavior.  I don't even know what the dog looks like.  I work with what I got and I make it work.  Everyone of those dogs has worked out as good pets and companions for the new owners.  None have been returned.  Some, like my avatar does hunting.  That is my experience and all I am doing is sharing.

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No one is saying anything bad about the dog, afterall the dog is the innocent victim...discarded, unwanted. It is not silly to have that expectation, it is responsible dog ownership.

I don't know how you can call a re-homed dog discarded, unwanted.  When the breeder keeps the dog until the right person comes along and wants them that is discarded?  These re-homes aren't getting dumped in shelters!

Hehe, another extension of this logic is that foster homes discard their dogs.  Thus foster homes are bad - cruelly getting a dog accustomed to a home and a pack, then dumping them onto another home.  A discarded victim.
 
Personally I'd never pondered this topic before (breeder re-homes).  But I have to say that the "con" side lost me right around the time decent people became "wrong" for wanting a purebred or even a certain breed.

Talk to me directly and explain how one is not selfish justification and the other is exploitation. I am reasonable. I listen. I can understand and I will work at seeing the other side. Its your turn

*content removed* I will try to respond politely.  You haven't acknowledged any single point that has been made.  You are being contrary and circular in your argument.  You have yet to see anything other than your viewpoint. 

Re-homed dogs are usually quite happy dogs.  You do not acknowledge this.

Some people are looking for dogs with pedigrees, health certs and known backgrounds.  But you play advocate and victim and mock them, even when the reasons behind those requirements are explained in a manner so simple that a child could understand them.

You claim that rehomed show dogs are "used up" or "past their usefulness."  Apparently you are one of the few that see this.  The breeders and those that desire these dogs see them as viable, and potentially wonderful additions to a family.

You claim that breeders that rehome show dogs are equivalent to those that run dog tracks, yet the breeders that rehome their dogs aren't culling them, nor dumping them in the desert to starve to death.

You have your opinion.  It's only an opinion.  You feel as if the rehomed show dogs are victims.  Fine.  You've had plenty of content removed on this thread-so who knows what your point was?  You don't have the ability to agree to disagree, so you keep throwing out words to demean.  This thread began in a very civil manner.  Then you condemned the breeders because of your viewpoint. Then you brought "retired" greyhounds into the argument (red herring.)   Not everyone shares your viewpoint, in fact most of us do not. 

Did I say that ALL breeders were wonderful caring people?  No.  However I did relate MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES in dealing with breeders/handlers/show dog owners.  Have you even spoken to a breeder of champion dogs before?  What lines were they?  Did you have a bad experience?  Because you're not being honest in either your argument or in disclosing your feelings about breeders in general.

That is my experience and all I am doing is sharing.

Since you're so big on experience, do you have experience with breeding?  Adopting an adult from a breeder?  Working with rescues funded and operated by breeders?  If not, then why are you so quick to judge and stereotype?  Breeding and rescue are not mutually exclusive.  Like I said, I did and plan to continue with cat rescue and hopefully dog rescue when I have time and space.  I've adopted all of my cats from shelters and rescues.  I work in the dog kennels at a local shelter.  I volunteer at adoption events.  You don't have to tell me what it's like to find an animal on the street and be up all night and day nursing it back to health and praying it will survive.  So just because the dog that I was matched with comes from a local breeder negates all of that?

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Hehe, another extension of this logic is that foster homes discard their dogs.  Thus foster homes are bad - cruelly getting a dog accustomed to a home and a pack, then dumping them onto another home.  A discarded victim.

With respect, I foster dogs in my home and have been doing it for many years.  Yes, these dogs are discarded by owners and in the worst possible shape.  Do a search on the forum using the key work Essie and you will get a glimpse of how serious a situation is for a shelter dog.  Yes, I rehome and it is a great effort to do that.  When my rehome is successful I can save a another dog from being euthed and rehab that dog.  This is my "con", comparing this to rehoming a owner's/breeder dog because the dog has used up its usefullness, not being able to breed or do the job it was bred to do.  This discarded dog will be replaced with a puppy, maybe.  I hope you understand but if you need more clarity, please let me know.

well I guess the question is whether these breeders are re-homing for the dog's best interest or for their best interests. And I have to conclude it is the breeder's best interest. They are done with the dog, they've used it up. They've had the dog for several years and yet they claim they can't provide a good home? when the truth is the dog is either not cut out for their preferred sport or is too old to crank out puppies? gee, if one of my dogs is not cut out for my preferred sport I find some other way to enjoy my dog. Baxter was intended to be an obedience dog, demontrated no interest, too tall for agility, so we took up marmot hunting. Happy dog, happy owner.  Alpha bitch has arthritic knees and can't do agility. Should I ship her off to a new home? what a cop-out. She loves to fake bird hunt, so we do that.
 

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How 'bout #120 and #124?  Answers! *snap snap* []

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How 'bout #120 and #124?  Answers! *snap snap* []

 
For #120, congratulations on the rescue. 
For #124, tomorrow I will read that too.

For #120, congratulations on the rescue.

So you would have done the same?  Re-home the dog?  Yes or no?

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For #120, congratulations on the rescue.

So you would have done the same?  Re-home the dog?  Yes or no?

 
Which one of the re-homes?

Which one of the re-homes?

Post #120, top of the page (if your pages have the same number of posts as mine).