Pet Store Puppy

Benedict

and for the most part you don't rehome puppies,

True, but I did get a puppy, a very young puppy that the vet and the org represented as an adult.  Were they surprised when this pup starting growing and growing, you should see this little guy today.  When this guy was placed, the org did not tell me there was any such restriction.  If it was an obvious situation, the subject would come up and be discussed and depending on the answers, the org would move forward or not.

Similarly, I adopted one of my fosters to a very elderly lady who lived in a retirement community.  The concern was the age of the adopter and what would happen to the dog if something should happen to the adopter.......and there was another family interested in adopting this dog.  Through the same type of dialogue of thoroughly discussing the issue and being comfortable with the representation, the dog went to the elderly lady and not to the other family.

DPU

So far no responses and my first thought was the deposit, the money.

I will not accept deposits on puppies as a rule of thumb. I have only twice and that was on puppies I had to keep till 6 months old for travel restrictions and countrry quarantines. ( siblings going to the Bahamas)  I prefer to think by not accepting a deposit I am not required to place a puupy should we meet face to face and I get a weird vibe from you in person. My puppies go from my hand to the new owner's and only after I feel as positive as humanly possible.

Bonita of Bwana

Benedict

Perhaps, in the interests of examining the differences between purchases from ethical breeders vs. pet shops, some of our breeders here will tell us whether they will send a puppy home to a family expecting a child.  

 

 We will NOT place in a home expecting a child.  Hey flame suit is on and that is cool. After my own experience and then having to take back a puppy from the ONLY home we ever placed a pup in that was expecting Nope. We will not consider a home awaiting the birth of a child. This is not written in our paper work nor will you see it on up coming our web site. However from practical experience we know life changes when the baby arrives. Most often for the best but that is not good enough for one of my puppies.  Your focus is, as it should be, split.  Finances may be challenged. I want the best home I can find not a close second.

The home I did agree to place in was for all intents "special"  the husband was from a long line of dog handlers and breeders. They knew everything they should about owning a purebred dog let alone a show quality dog. The wife was beyond sweet and fun. Both had great jobs. Both were educated. Puppy went to his new home when they were  5 months along.  At 7 month they both quit their jobs and all of a sudden there was no insurance. As they ended up with big pay cuts they had to move, and move again. by the time I asked them to come to a dog show in their town where we would be showing the baby was 3 months old and they were in apartment number 4 for the time I had known them.  He was painfully thin they had never increased his feed over the time frame they haad him , still feeding a rapidly growing boy as they would have a 10 week old pup.  No meds or additional shots as money was too dear to spare. I was determined to save the boy so I coaxed and cajoled until they came to their senses.  He came to me nearly 35 pounds underweight. It cost me over 800.00 to just get him healthy.  I re homed him and gave them a couple hundred to help out with all of the bills they were now swiming in.

Nope. I will NEVER place a pup in an expectant home and I will not advertise this anywhere. It is my right and my obligation. The puppy should come second in a human family to the human children.... BUT the breeder should not put them in that circumstance.

Bonita of Bwana

spiritdogs

...The other thing that bothered me in this discussion was the inference that I should somehow have chosen to try to bail a "perfect" dog out of a high kill shelter.  As if, all of a sudden, trying to rescue Shelby was a bad idea... 

I am not familar with the Shelby rescue.  Maybe you or someone else can tell the story of what happened with this rescue.

 Thank you, Bonita.  That has raised some further questions for me, but in the interests of keeping this thread on track, I will start a new one in the morning.  I'd appreciate your input, once I have posted it, if you have time. 

DPU

I am not familar with the Shelby rescue.  Maybe you or someone else can tell the story of what happened with this rescue.

Agreed, but that too belongs in another thread, if Anne wishes to share the story.  

DPU

And maybe they can talk about that deposit thing.  Last weekend I sent out maybe 10 inquires via email to breeders that I was looking to adopt puppies.

Really? Why? Are you **actually** looking to buy a puppy right now? If not, maybe they detected something suspicious in your email?

Also, I've found a lot of people just plain don't respond to email inquiries, even if they're running a business, even if they have email prominently listed. I emailed about 10 dog daycare places in the area over the last couple of months and not one has emailed me back. They were all quite helpful when I followed up with a phone call, though.

Cita

Really? Why? Are you **actually** looking to buy a puppy right now?

A very common place thing that takes place all the time.  Why are you alarmed? 

 If not, maybe they detected something suspicious in your email?

No, it was a simple cursory inquiry.

Also, I've found a lot of people just plain don't respond to email inquiries, even if they're running a business, even if they have email prominently listed. I emailed about 10 dog daycare places in the area over the last couple of months and not one has emailed me back. They were all quite helpful when I followed up with a phone call, though.

Then they should not provide their email address and state a phone call is preferred....then we can play phone tag.

Mod note, to all posting...

BACK TO TOPIC, PLEASE.

"Please remind me why I don't want to get a pup from a pet store!!! "

 If you have nothing to add that is not already in this thread...move on. If you would like to discuss off topic subjects...start a new thread. If you would like to have a one on one conversation with a particular member...PM them.

This thread is now, to be kept on topic...which is posted above. Further off topic posts, even in response to other off topic posts, will be removed. Thanks.

Benedict

As I've said, I just don't know of any pet shops that sell puppies here, and yet there is an abundance of dogs. 

Do you have puppymills? 

rwbeagles

"Please remind me why I don't want to get a pup from a pet store!!! "

 

This has been mentioned but may not be have been connected with the topic.  You may not want to get a pup from a pet store or from any puppy supplier if your health will be compromised temporarily or permanently in the near future.  You should also try and take a sneak preview into the crystal ball and look at your life goals and career goals and see if a pet store dog fits in that picture.  The major reason for not getting a pup from a pet store has to be answered within yourself and your committed care and no one else can or should tell you what to do.  Just my opinion and what I follow myself.

denise m

The motivation in your analogy for not buying gas gusslers is a financial decision. With pet store puppies it is a moral decision. Now if gas and trucks were cheap how many Americans do you think would opt for small environmentally friendly cars? Changing human behavior for moral reasons is not as easy as changing them for financial reasons

I wasn't trying to get on anyone's nerve. But money talks, bovine *** walks. Puppymillers and the pet stores supplied by them care about the bottom line. Hit them where it counts.

DPU

Benedict

Perhaps, in the interests of examining the differences between purchases from ethical breeders vs. pet shops, some of our breeders here will tell us whether they will send a puppy home to a family expecting a child.  

And maybe they can talk about that deposit thing.  Last weekend I sent out maybe 10 inquires via email to breeders that I was looking to adopt puppies.  For a first contact, I think I gave them more than needed information about me, what I want, and my home setup.  I did not follow their directions on their website because some had a deposit thing and I was only doing a cursory inquiry.  So far no responses and my first thought was the deposit, the money.

Sheesh for every crap shoot you bring up about breeders you are just preaching to the choir, I hope you realize.  Would anyone here consider a breeder that will only review a buyer's inquiry AFTER a deposit is made, a reputable breeder?  Yeah right!  Keep searching...

Funny thing with deposits is I've found that anytime I've offered one, I've been told it wouldn't be necessary.  Not only did I not have to put a deposit on Kenya, I was never asked to pay a cent for her at all.  I offered a deposit on Nikon and was told none would be necessary.  The other breeders I contacted also never asked about a deposit.  I believe for the same reasons Bonita mentioned.  We did not solidify which pup was going to which home until the day they went home.  There were three males still to be sorted, one for me, one for another couple on the other side of the state, and one the breeder was keeping for herself.  I did not know which one was mine until that day.  Their personalities changed so much on a daily basis we were not going to make up our minds at four weeks.  It turned out that Nikon was the one she always had in mind for me, and he ended up sort of picking me (he followed me around and liked me to hold him).  Now if I had picked at 4 weeks, the first time I visited the litter and offered a deposit, I would have picked the wrong puppy, I would have picked Duke who went to the other couple (and they were pleased with him, on the day they went home, Duke was the one they wanted anyway).  But that's why a good breeder does the picking, s/he knows the pups and the lines, not someone like me who has seen the litter maybe once or twice for 20 minutes each.

Liesje

There were three males still to be sorted, one for me, one for another couple on the other side of the state, and one the breeder was keeping for herself.  I did not know which one was mine until that day.  Their personalities changed so much on a daily basis we were not going to make up our minds at four weeks.  It turned out that Nikon was the one she always had in mind for me, and he ended up sort of picking me (he followed me around and liked me to hold him).  Now if I had picked at 4 weeks, the first time I visited the litter and offered a deposit, I would have picked the wrong puppy, I would have picked Duke who went to the other couple (and they were pleased with him, on the day they went home, Duke was the one they wanted anyway).  But that's why a good breeder does the picking, s/he knows the pups and the lines, not someone like me who has seen the litter maybe once or twice for 20 minutes each.

You know what?  You have DONE it.  You have actually responded, probably by accident, to the topic.  The above is SUCH a good reason to purchase from a good breeder, and not from a pet shop, or even a BYB.  How many pet shops do you know that will know the pup thoroughly and, after asking detailed questions of the buyer, match them to the best possible purchase?  Let's face it, you are picking a companion that should be with you for 10-15 years, or more.  How can you know which is the best one for you on the intial meeting?