Free Speech ?? Not so much..

    • Gold Top Dog

    Free Speech ?? Not so much..

    Don't worry Mods I am not going to risk our corp sponsor... I really do understand how valuable they are and how much Great work they do by allowing our Beloved i-dog...... This is about forums in general....    

    I have been a member in good standing of our national breed club for a very very long time. , The National Specialty that I am going to tomorrow is my 14 th or 15th .... I did not know about our Breed Club when we first got into RRs. Back then the Internet was iffy and all of us were working in the dark. As we learned soooo much more about millers and BYBs and just Oh Heck Life got in the way ...   All of us stepped up and responded financially and with our own facilities ... I whelped litters for rescue ...waaay more than for myself. Hey just cause your daddy may or may not be a champion is Zero reason for the litter to have a less than Champion whelp!!   It matters not to me if the breeding is  ummmm mixed or purebred  Seriously... I just want any puppy coming into the world to have an optimal chance... I KNOW I can give that.. benefits of being a retired RN with multiple zones.

    Sometimes It is really frustrating as the scum understands how to manipulate the system... they get a Hot mail addy and use initials and say what they want... the Mods on different boards have to brake down on any thing which could cause a problem with the Wrong kind of poster...

    I get it ...the common good... lets face it this list helps a Whole Lot of Folks!!  I would die of Shame if I destroyed it.  But dag gum it .... to borrow a very old cuss word... When CAN we step up???  What are the boundaries? How can we say Hey    YOU ..  you want a well bred dog and this particular person is a horrific  puppy miller. They have an Awesome Cyber WebSite  Yee haww   must be true......????  Then some one with definitive evidence  says HEY this is NOT the place to shop.... but the "breeder " is under fire and the list has to shut down folks with specific info  to protect the sponsor.... I AM NOT blaming that action... I just want to know what the heck do you do??

    There was an issue earlier and I will go into NO details   I really hate being slapped on the wrist just cause I know something the rest of you do not...  I accept It is Necessary to protect the list but what NOW????  The Breed list is being soooo careful and that leaves the Members list   if this breeder is a skunk  you need a place to notify Right??    But if     just say you are looking at Vizsla's or RRS ... How ....HOW do I teach you or hey lets call it what it is  How do I warn you???

    Life is what it is....sucks I know  Heck   I have the scars to show for it.  I realize that some trainers have to all Nazi or Cesar on a dog... and others can go a different way...with work and effort all of them will work,

    Just wish there was a way past the litigious world..... one that would at least allow us to give notice regarding a kennel ...  Any one with a Brilliant Concept?? Holler !!

    Bonita of Bwana

     

     

    • Gold Top Dog
    Bonita of Bwana

    Just wish there was a way past the litigious world..... one that would at least allow us to give notice regarding a kennel ...  Any one with a Brilliant Concept?? Holler !!

     

    Bonita...you can say anything you want, about anyone you want. You can name names and use whatever terms you like to describe them. Just use a PM.

    THAT is what PM's are for...as well as private off list emails. I expect every Club and List or Forum out there has similar options.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I was just venting... when Germany calls me and says they have started an ENGLISH forum because our country can not discuss certain peopleor thing    wow..... Then there is a person who thinks the Rescuers of our club will never be allowed to say anything so he asks for copies of our contracts. Normally I am first to send a copy but I know this person.  I send a VERY polite scold. basically IF you are going to breed all of your ducks should be in a row first.... don't turn around and want the product others have paid deeply for   for free.  And yes that is what Millers and their cohorts do.   Then when NO  ONE on our list with a decent contract sent them to this loser there was an annonymous email from a "lurker"  signed with intitials and an a hotmail addy   fussing cause we are not giving that poor person a break....

    arrrrghhhh .   Like all of us are so cyber stupid we haven't figured that trick out??

    Again no one is allowed to fuss,   cause OMG the forum might be fussed at......  Paul Revere did not have to IM  or PM  he shouted ..... in today's world we all have to suck it up and whisper. How sad is that?   again Gina Just a Vent ... IT really is frustrating.

    Bonita of Bwana