This has to stop...

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    Actually, if Brenda's IP address has been banned, and she has a cable modem or DSL, all she has to do is turn off the little reciever thingy for a bit and she will have a new IP address. However, it seems pretty clear from her posts that she has no intention of coming back.

    Sorry emmas mom, but people don't get banned from message boards for nothing. There are two sides to every story.
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    Jean, to what end?  Jaime has always made it VERY clear that she will NOT discuss a members status with anyone other than the member.  Joel did the same exact thing in his post last nite...he clearly said he will NOT discuss this situation.  Do you think that hounding him is going to make him change his mind?  Or that if we all throw a collective temper tantrum Joel is going to decide to bring Brenda back to shut us up?  Or just pull the board plug?
     
    You have no idea how many of us might have already sent emails to Joel and Jaime.  If you choose to display your displeasure publicly, that's fine, go for it.  But please don't condemn the rest of us who may or may not be working behind the scenes.
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    No matter how much i will miss Brenda, and no matter how bad i want her to come back, there are 2 sides to every story. Jamie and Joel would not ban someone for no good reason. I know they woulden't.
     
    I will miss Brenda, but as i said before, she is still on other boards, we will see her somewhere on the internet from time to time, just not on this board.
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    ORIGINAL: danehaven

    The board is made by who stays not by who leaves.

     
    Amen.  And normally I don't like posts like this, but AMEN.
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    This forum is not pulic property, therefore the "Due Process" is whatever the admins say it is. Joel can shut the entire board down if he wanted, without any process at all. Part of becoming a member of a board like this is accepting the fact that the board admins have the final say. You have said your peice, they have made it clear how they feel and the actions they will take. If anything, you are only making things worse.
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    Forgive me if I see a difference between getting banned from a forum for bad behavior and animal abuse.

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    An insult! I'm truly hurt that some random internet person thinks I'm stupid and can't read good. I shall retreat to my corner and cry....
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    Jean,
     What you got and posted above is public record...not anything that was private...there was a warning...maybe it could be shared with you along with everything else...I doubt it but what ever!
     
    I don't JUST ban people Because...the history of this forum shows that with members who have warn out their welcome after a long drawn out process in most cases.
     
    I am going to ask you to let this go. Again, it is not productive and yes the F**K word WAS used in the e-mail...we are not going to be subject to the abuse any longer on or off this forum...move on
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    I'm not even sure that Brenda would come back even if the permanent ban was rescinded - that's not the issue; to me, the issue is that someone was PERMANENTLY BANNED WITHOUT DUE PROCESS and others are allowed to continue when clearly violating the board rules to the same or greater degree.

     
    That's what bothered me. I saw a whole lot of craziness go on and after reading some insults and name calling I'd think "Ok, is the admin going to step up and put this person(s) in check?". I can understand being lenient but when a lot of people are speaking out about it, there's something going on and it should be looked into. But anyhoo, what's done is done and I just hope this new board can carry on in a more positive manner. [:)]
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    ORIGINAL: emmas_mom

    I would have thought that members of a board which supports the ethical treatment of animals would have been equally concerned about the ethical treatment of people.


    Maybe what is being demonstrated isn't so much a lack of concern as it is a lack of agreement with you.  You might want to consider that possibility, as it strikes me as a very likely one.

    Have a pleasant day.
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    Maybe what is being demonstrated isn't so much a lack of concern as it is a lack of agreement with you.  You might want to consider that possibility, as it strikes me as a very likely one.

     
    FWIW that is not necessarily the case with me. I happen to agree wholeheartedly with emmas_mom, even if I'm beginning to think it's going to far... I haven't responded to the posts because I think she makes good points and states them well and I wouldn't have anything further to add that hasn't already been said.