stray domestic with kittens

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    stray domestic with kittens

    Today there was a thunderstorm, when my uncle called me to tell me there was a stray cat in his garage having kittens, and that the mother cat looked weak. I have experience with puppies, and so I had to run through the storm, about a bit over half  a mile to get to their house, and I saw a cat curled up in a muddy corner, with a small thin kitten off to the side, and it looked dead. The cat already ate a can of tuna, and had a 2nd available with some water. I brought some chocolate milk flavored ensure, it was the best thing I had at home as far as nutrition goes . She hadn't taken any water, so we offered the ensure instead, and she took a little.  I watched carefully, and the kitten was breathing. It was covered in mud. I put on some work gloves and let the cat smell me, and it was a very sweet cat, so I was able to safetly take the kitten. I got a towel and a hot water bottle in the microwave, and carefully wraped the kitten up. I cleaned him up and his cord was still bleeding a bit, so I stopped the bleeding, and he was very chilled, after a while he was clean, warm, and very strong. Other then being skinny, he was looking perfect, so I tried to put him back so he could get some colostrom, mom accepted him under her, but the other two kittens were very muddy. I didn't want to take them away as they were nursing, and she was hidden in a corner behind a bunch off old doors proped up against the wall. I moved the doors, layed down some cardboard and towels, and moved the kittens onto them. The cat woudn't budge, and shyed away when I tried to move her, so I propped the doors in a circle around her to make her feel safer, and waited. She didn't budge to go to her kittens.  So, I put them uip against a hot water bottle, and waited. still nothing, so I put them back under her. I have some puppy formula here at my aunt's house, so I made some up and offered it to the cat for more nourishment. she took it straight off. The kittens bellies are covered in mud and I'm afraid the cords will be infected. I have so me alchohol wipes, would it be safe to take the kittens inside, clean them up, and then put them back with mom?mom wont budge out from that muddy corner. There are 3 kittens.

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    Can you take her to a vet? If not then at least do the following. 

    She might not be done having babies. Get a box big enough for her to get in and move around in and put a blanket,straw,hay, something in there with them and get them off the wet nasty ground. Do not put a towel in there though because the babies claws can get caught on the towel. Set some food somewhere for her and leave her alone.

    Check on her every once in a while though.

    I had to step in a couple months ago with a foster cat and her babies. Her milk dried up and I took over. I got some kitten formula at walmart and some bottles made for baby animals. Unfortunately I only had one baby survive out of 4. But she is one healthy happy sassy kitten now. That was my first time every bottle feeding anything and even though I lost 3 I did at least save one.

    Good luck! 

     

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     How's momma cat doing and the kittens? I wouldn't give anything with chocolate in it (chocolate milk flavored ensure) I believe chocolate can be toxic to cats, as well as dogs. A little milk chocolate usually won't bother, but why take the chance. Did you get them all cleaned off and convince Mom to move to a drier spot? Hopefully you have them where she can't take them away and hide them somewhere, so that you can handle them on a regular basis. If they are not around people and handled on a regular basis, they will probably end up becoming feral. Hope all are doing okay.

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    can you pick mom up and move her to a cleaner location? Block off the old location - she may try to go back. Puppy formula and kitten formula do not have the same nutrients in it - nursing kittens need different things than nursing pups. If you don't think they are getting enough - grab a can of KMR from Petsmart - it can be pricey, but the powdered stuff will last you for a long time, probably one can will be all you need. The premade stuff (liquid) is not as good, as it goes bad very soon after opening and kittens do not seem to do as well on it (IME).

    You can put some iodine on the unbilical cords to help ward off infection. A clamp will stop the bleeding (we use surgical hemostats for this).

    The babies need to be kept warm and clean - so getting mom to a dry place really is a must. Can she come inside? I wouldn't put her near any other animals, but maybe in a back bedroom where it's quiet. As with the pups - limit the number of people that handle them. They need to be touched and things, yes - but remeber they are still weak babies - just like the pups. Clean hands are a must when handling kittens.

    Try to get mom to eat some canned kitten food - that will probably be best for her right now. She may take to that better than the dry. Tuna is good for a snack every now and then- but wont offer her everything she needs to raise healthy babies.

    As with the pups, the kittens will need to be wormed every two weeks, starting at at least 2 weeks old (I do it earlier usually).

    Nursing moms and kittens are usually pretty easy (it's the motherless kittens that can be challenging). Really, all you need to do for her is make sure she's eating (and the babies) and keep her clean (I can't stress how important that is!)

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    THanks for all the information!

    The puppy formula and ensure I was using as emergency resources, the cat looked very weak right after labor, so the ensure was good for a quick boost, and the puppy formula I didn't end up using, but was only meant to last until I could get kitten formula anyway.

    THe kitten that was rejected at first was rejected again the next day. This time he was covered in mud, his mouth was encrusted with dirt, so much he couldn't close his mouth, and his umbilical cord was covered in mud. I took him indoors, cleaned out as much of his mouth as I could by using a dropper to wash it out,  and I used an alcohol pad on his cord. I got him warmed up in towels with a hot water bottle, and unfortunelty my aunt is NOT a cat person, so I took the kitten home, and called up a friend from school who is a vet tech at a nearby clinic, she was at work, and she said she could take the kitten for a few weeks, but that I would have to help her find a permanant home. I dropped the kitten off to be checked out by a vet, and I called the next day to check up on him. She said the kitten had neurological issues, basically his brain wasn't sending the right messages, so even if he survived, he wouldn't be adoptable. THey decided to wait a day or two before putting him down, but he ended up dying about an hour before I called. At least he was comfortable, and well fed. If I had left him, he wold have starved or frozen to death. He died due to his nuerological problems, but he died warm, comfortable, and with a full tummy. THe cat moved the other two kittens again into a very small corner, barely big enough for her to curl around her kittens. I don't want her to move where I won't be able to find her or her kittens, so I left them where they are. There is a white kitten, and a smokey gray kitten with a white stripe running down its forehead. I tried the humane society to see if they could take the kitten after my friend wouldn't be able to have him anymore, and they put him on a waiting list because he had an immedeate home- I'm going to call again to see if they will take the cat and her kittens. I don't know just how domestic or ferral she is, I only know that she allowed me to take and give back her kitten, that she let me pet her 3 or 4 times and purred, and that she only hissed at me once. its difficult to give this poor momma cat everything she needs because quite frankly- people are much more wiling to help out puppies then kittens, especially stray kittens. My parents, too, are reluctant to even allow me to help at all because they are concered that the cat may have something that I can catch. So my plan is to try and get the cat into a humane society shelter, get some cat food from a family friend, and try my best to keep them from going ferral.

    Thanks for all your info- I am supplementing mother cat with puppy formula for extra nutrition, and the chocolate ensure is gone. I'm just really hoping the humane society can take the cat and her kittens.

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    really, the only thing you can catch from cats is in the ***, so as long as you don't ingest any of that - you're good =] clean any scratches/bites out really well and you'll be fine. If you do get bit, you'll have to report it and she will need to be quarentined to make sure she's not rabid, but I don't know how much of a problem that is in your area, so it might not be a concern at all =]

     don't feel bad about the kitten - momma cats are extremely smart, they know when something is wrong with their babies. They will push them away, and focus more on the others. You shouldn't have to do too much, momma sounds like she's got in under control.

    Good luck getting her in to a shelter! I know down here we are all full with the economy and things going down hill, people can't aford their pets anymore. Turn ins are through the roof! If you tell them you can hang on to her until they have room you might have better luck. She doesn't sound like a feral - they will not allow you to touch, pet, feed, or even look at them (I've got a former feral we resuced when he was about 7 months old, he's only ok with family, and hides when company is over. Thankfully, he's about 7 years now and a lot better/calmer). She sounds pretty docile - and I would definately let the shelter know this!