the joys of job hunting, while already employed...

almost in the same position as you. my company is going downhill as well, but i had to quite first. just cause i wasnt getting my butt of to look for other jobs.

i dont think you have anything to feel guilty for! loyalty sounds great and all, but when noone else is looking out for you, you have to look out for yourself. nothing to be ashamed of.

good luck on the job hunting... (and i hope you get paid what they owe you..., -for that matter i hope i get paid what my company owes me..) lol

the_gopher

But I feel so sneaky setting up my appointment tomorrow at an employment agency (who coincidently got me this current job) for some further testing and getting my name down there in case something pops up (nothing open right now, but just to get me back on file).  I feel terrible and guilty for sending out my resume.  Plus, never mind I need to keep this all quiet.  While I am not afraid of being laid off, my position here is quite secure (I know this b/c my boss has already told me I cannot leave him and to give this another go - never mind the fact I run this office), I also cannot let it be known I'm looking right now (it would make things awkward and uncomfortable, and I'm trying to present a chipper attitude to keep employees attitudes from sinking further). 

There is NOTHING wrong with looking for another job while still employed. IT is called being Responsible, your Bill Collectors appreciate your being grown up and careful!  I have friends and family who have waled out on jobs in a snit or feeling they could not handle anymore they shot their mouth off burning bridges and then they ended up back home with me or borrowing money till they could get another job. With the pressure of bills due and checking account decreasing they often end up taking whatever they can get. And often for less than they should have because they have that desperate air about them.   You are doing the right thing and doing it the right way !!

Bonita of Bwana

Bonita of Bwana

There is NOTHING wrong with looking for another job while still employed. IT is called being Responsible, your Bill Collectors appreciate your being grown up and careful!  I have friends and family who have waled out on jobs in a snit or feeling they could not handle anymore they shot their mouth off burning bridges and then they ended up back home with me or borrowing money till they could get another job. With the pressure of bills due and checking account decreasing they often end up taking whatever they can get. And often for less than they should have because they have that desperate air about them.   You are doing the right thing and doing it the right way !!

 

It's very difficult.  My boss just came into my office (he's on VACATION) to ask me if I'm ok and that I'm still staying with him.  We had a management meeting recently between him, myself and number 2 in the company) to try to get things back on track - and both are very worried about losing me.  I'm putting on my smile and just saying all is fine, because I know he'll beg and plead with me to stay and promise things he cannot deliver (he's already offered me a raise and I told him, let's just get back on track with paying our employees what they are OWED before increasing my salary - and frankly I think I'm paid well considering I walked into this position as an Admin Assistant and was promoted within a couple of months without ANY experience to be doing what I'm doing now!  I'm self-teaching myself QuickBooks for heavens sake!)  Money isn't my concern here (aside from wanting my expenses reimbursed and my money put into my IRA fund, I take saving for my retirement VERY seriously) - but job satisfaction and a sense of stability within the company.  

I have NEVER walked out of a job, and I do pride myself on loyalty and a strong work ethic (let's discount I'm online while at work right now lol since I came into work an hour early today).  But, your right I do have bills to pay and when I see that we BARELY make payroll each week - well it's time to jump ship b/c my college loans will not take a rain check!  My SO has been encouraging me to look elsewhere given what's going on in this place, as we have a mortgage, one car loan (he owns his vehicle, but it will need replacing in probably 2 years), a puppy, but most importantly my mental health! 

I am hoping the employment agency can find me something - as looking in the paper is pretty depressing as right now it seems only food service and low end jobs are available (aside from professional jobs I have no interest or qualification for).   

janetmichel3009

almost in the same position as you. my company is going downhill as well, but i had to quite first. just cause i wasnt getting my butt of to look for other jobs.

i dont think you have anything to feel guilty for! loyalty sounds great and all, but when noone else is looking out for you, you have to look out for yourself. nothing to be ashamed of.

good luck on the job hunting... (and i hope you get paid what they owe you..., -for that matter i hope i get paid what my company owes me..) lol

Janet here is to wishing we both get what we are owed!  I am really upset that my retirement money was withheld (illegally) by this company.  I'm 26 and I do not want to find myself in my father's shoes working at a dead end job, barely making ends meet with little in savings for retirement and failing health.  I do not have as much tucked away as I'd like to in my 401K (separate from this company), and I'm owed about 600 that should be in my IRA (with this company) to be put towards my future retirement (which I would like to be able to do after all!)

I will miss the customer relationships I have worked hard to remedy here, and developed.  And, this job is GREAT for me for experience, but your right I need to look out for myself and leave the guilt out of this!
 

I feel for you and am in a very similar position. My boss is a wonderful guy and for the most part, I love my job, but sometimes I feel major frustration. For financial reasons (good pay) and the fact that I want to stay in this retirement plan, I really can't leave, but I've considered it at times.

It sounds like you're very valuable employee and they know that. Still, that's not a good enough reason to stay and I think you're doing the right thing by checking out other opportunities. If you thought it were possible to turn your current position and the company around, then I'm sure you would, but it doesn't sound possible. Good luck to you and know that you're only doing your best to look out for your future and there's nothing wrong with that.

Cakana thank you.  I'm still trying my hardest to make things better here, but each day I feel like I'm beating my head against a brick wall. There's no follow-thru from my boss (he has gotten better in some respects), and it sets a poor example for our other techs to follow thru as well.  I'm working on several projects right now to institute better documentation, better customer service, BUT that's all well and good but others are not doing their end and I have no means to actually enforce any policies.  

At least, I can take what I have been trying to do here to a company that would better appreciate it, and/or a place where I have the backing and authority to get people to follow through.  

I mean its sad when I try to enforce our prepayment with our customers (for hardware purchases they make through us) and they whine complain, call my boss on me and he gives them exception after exception.  THIS is the reason why we are on credit hold with several vendors, b/c we have outstanding invoices with our own customers!  I have asked him for permission to shut off several customers with seriously outstanding balances with us, and he won't b/c he's afraid of losing them altogether - so basically we are servicing them for free.  I don't like being the bad guy, but it's basic business, if you don't pay you don't get service!  

Or like today I had a customer who balked at our 3% credit card processing fee, telling me that SHE always gets this taken off, that H (the woman whose place I took when she left the company) always took it off for her, and to ask my boss T about it.  I told her I would not, that this is not directed at her but exceptions can no longer be made.  I told my boss about this today and at least he supported me for a change - but I doubt he would if he had gotten on the phone with her (he runs from any form of confrontation) I was nice to the customer, but we cannot afford to give out exceptions anymore, and it's something I'm struggling with b/c in the past SO many exceptions have been given, that it's now biting us in the you know where! 

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