Adding a second dog

    • Gold Top Dog

    Adding a second dog

    My neighbors are planning on breeding their dog and asked if I wanted a puppy (DUH!). I'm able to afford another puppy but I'm just wondering how hard it is to introduce a new puppy to the resident dog and how do you handle two dogs at once?  Or do you just fall in to a routine... 

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    Well, start at the beginning.  Are these parents dogs that should be being bred in the first place.  Willow was a back yard bred girl and I can tell you you might be getting a lot more than you bargained for in the end--temperment issues, health problems, allergies, etc. 

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     I know both the prospect mother and father so that's not the problem..

    Do I feel they should be bred... In my personal opinion no, I don't see the point in breeding them except the owner of the father wants a couple of his puppies and the owner of the mother is wanting a puppy to keep as well..

    Both dogs are wonderful temperament and healthy. Actually the prospective mother is Maze's mom. Lol. The breeding won't go through unless there are enough people to home the puppies and if any are returned the guy with the female is willing to take them back. After this litter both dogs will be altered...

    Again if it was my dogs, I wouldn't be doing a litter but I was just asked if I wanted a puppy from this union.. And yes I do! Lol. 

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     Bleh, don't do it.  Buying it just encourages this type of breeding, which is just not with a good reason.  Just because they're healthy (now) and of good temperment and the owners want some new pups is not a good reason.  Don't encourage it by buying a pup.  If you want Maze to have a companion, there are great pups at shelters and in breed rescue that need homes.

    Please.  Sad 

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    These pups wouldn't be for sale. They'd be free to researched families.  I refuse to adopt from the shelter here as I don't agree with what they're doing.. And there aren't any rescues here otherwise I would be adopting from them..

    Everything is still up in the air and it won't be happening for awhile. I was just asked tonight so I've been thinking about it all night.

    Edit: I guess I should explain about the shelter here. They take a number of cats and dogs every few weeks to the city and give them to labs and such. Yes there is proof and No they won't openly admit to it..
     

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     Oh I think you could find one if you tried.  One of your dogs has border collie in it, right?

    http://www.bcbordercollies.com/bc/

    And here's a whole bunch of rescues:

    http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/bcrescue.htm

     

    I understand not supporting your local shelter if you don't agree with its practices.  The shelter in my county is pretty awful and I wouldn't have the heart to volunteer there (but I got Milo there) so I go one town over and volunteer in the city of Richmond (where Woobie came from).  There's more than one source for rescue dogs, breed rescue might not be right in your town, but there's usually plenty within driving distance. 

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    Yeah. Maze has border collie..

    I'll take a look but I don't have a lot of the requirements that rescues ask for.

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    I'm just asking that you consider rescue and not help to encourage a breeding you've said you don't think is a good idea.  You might not be able to stop it, but you don't have to participate in it.

    If you don't have the requirements of one rescue, don't give up.  Each rescue is different and one may reject you and another consider you the perfect home, they just have different criteria.

    Just look at cute Wooley here:

    http://users.breederoo.com/dogbless/adoptabledogs.cfm

    Can't you see him playing with your pups????  Wink 

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    You are evil Stick out tongue Lol. Trust me thou.. I wouldn't even adopt to myself in this house.. Lol..

    I think in the end if the breeding does go through, if there's a pup left over then I'll take it but I won't reserve one..

     

    And I'm still curious about my original questions.. Lol. 

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    Didn't you say in another post that Maze had aggression problems? I remember a while back with her going through some not-so-nice-stages, plus the dog aggression.

    I would not get one of these puppies - esp. if the mother is the same.

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    I find it interesting that not a single person has bothered to answer your original question....

    I'm a week and a half into a new two-dog lifestyle, so I figure I might have something to add to this conversation.  :o)  I brought Kaiser home last Tuesday and it has been an interesting week, to say the least!

    Luke is generally dog-friendly, although he doesn't have many dog friends because I think he fancies himself a human.  He's been an "only dog" for four years and I knew that there would be some jealousy issues to get past with the new puppy.

    I did the introduction at my parent's house and let Luke sniff the crate before letting Kaiser out.  Luke decided that he didn't really give a hoot about the little cat-like creature in the carrier and decided that he'd rather go around sniffing the yard.

    I had to monitor their interactions together the first few days because Luke did not appreciate it when Kaiser used him as a launch pad or jumped at his face to play.  Luke didn't do anything more than growl/snarl at him on occasion, but I needed to make sure that it didn't escalate beyond that -- plus, I needed to be able to reprimand Luke for that behavior and also try to prevent Kaiser from going overboard.

    Luke was massively jealous and in a major funk for five or six days.  In the last few days he's really been coming around and I think he might actually be starting to like Kaiser!  He's learning how to play with Kaiser without scaring the snot out of him (Luke has always been fairly aggressive in his play style and has had to learn to tame it down) and he's learned to share his toys and not touch the puppy chewies (that was hard for him at first).

    I've made sure to give Luke plenty of attention and love -- he gets the perk of sleeping on the bed with me while Kaiser sleeps in the crate.  Luke also has his special time with me when we do agility and that means a lot to him.  Overall we're doing very well.

    We fell into a new routine very quickly.  Basically our lives revolve around Kaiser's potty schedule, so all this means is that Luke now gets to go outside a lot more than he used to!  We're also going for more walks than we did before, as you tend to get pretty spoiled with an older dog.  Luke likes this change!

    I'm going to have to start getting serious about Kaiser's training one of these days, at which point I will have to separate the two dogs more frequently.  We may encounter a new level of jealousy at that point, but I think Luke will deal okay.

    The change is rather big at first, but you fall into a routine rather quickly.  I had big time jitters in the week prior to bringing Kaiser home because I didn't know if I was prepared to handle the puppy stage again, but everything has been going very well.  I'm sure you will be fine, too!

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    I also recently added a second dog to my household - a 5 month old puppy.  I made sure that the introduction between the two dogs was made on neutral grounds (doggie daycare) and that went great.  Zoe initially was annoyed by the presence of the new puppy but in a couple of days they were playing.  They now (3 weeks later) snuggle together but Zoe does not like when other dogs touch her back - its just a thing she has.  And she reprimands Zack every time he does it.  Being he is an eager and active pup he doesn't always listen!  One thing I've noticed that has been a challenge is training.  It's hard to train one dog while the other is around getting in your face begging for the treats that you are using to train the other dog with.  Also, if your current dog has any behavioral problems, this can make things problematic with the new dog.

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    I agree with what most of KarissaKS said. We are only six days into 2nd dog ownership though.

     

    We introduced them on leash outside where it is more neutral territory.  For the first few days they played at times and ignored each other at times.  One big thing I did was to make sure the dogs have seperate everything, seperate food bowls, seperate crates, seperate toys, etc.  I think from what I've seen it's natural for a dog to resource gaurd with new dogs.   Sophie was thrilled to have another dog around though she did get jealous when people give attention to Cruiser and she tries to interrupt while looking all cute and happy. 

     

    With Cruiser being much smaller than Sophie and not being fully house broken yet we have to take him out about hourly.  Sophie loves this, it's like a treat for her to. She also gets extra treats since we are working with Cruiser on learning the basics.

     

    Overall it's been a positive experience, although very tiring I will admit.  Exhausting even!  I have to keep my eyes on them every second, not alone for a half a second, it's worse than having a toddler in the houes (almost).

     

     

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    Just curious...is it a mixed breed they're breeding?

    Anyway, When i brought Wyatt home, Kaiser wasn't too thrilled. After about a week though, they were together 24/7 and still are. I don't have a problem having 2 dogs, i think you fall into a routine.

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     Maze does have some behavior problems but we're working on them and she's doing A LOT better then she was.. She's starting to initiate play with other dogs and has remembered how to share the toys (finally) lol.

    Yes it is a mixed breed they're wanting to breed. The father is a lab/rotti and the mother is lab/border collie.

    Maze is usually pretty good with puppies and I'm excepting some jealousy since she went through that when I brought Crombie home.