dogs that don't require a leash

    • Gold Top Dog

    My dogs would never attack another dog or person,

    that kinda reminds me of the saying "More people have been killed by guns that werent loaded than they have been by loaded guns"

     

    they have no interest in mixing with other dogs either,they are rather anti-social(in a good way) in that sense,and when rude dogs come running in their faces most often then not they turn around and walk the other way.

    i know a couple of dogs right now that would love for your dogs to turn their backs and walk away. that makes it easier to grab them by the nape and shake the sh*t out of them... and no i'm not talking about a bulldog. 

     

    One of my dogs harnesses broke probably around a year ago,and i still havnt replaced it,so that goes to show how often my guys are on lead!And they get walked 2/3 times a day. Obviously i dont walk them on roads off lead,even though they are rock solid,i just dont believe any dog is 100% reliable.

     

    i laughed because you contradicted yourself in that.. if he isnt 100% reliable then how dare you walk him without a leash Big Smile Are you Siegfried or Roy? i mean... how well DO you know your animal?

    i like to think my dogs are at least 90% reliable but do i risk it? sometimes what it would take to snap a person into a fit of rage would fit under their fingernail.. we have people in institutions because they just snapped. some people believe it wont/cant happen to their animal or someone they know. you at least have some ability to maintain some kind of control so why not use it? nobody knows a person, let alone an animal, so well that you know for certain it cant or wont happen.

    i love walking my dogs off leash but not around people or their animals if at all possible. if i'm romping through the mountains with my dogs and a person shows up out of the blue.... i call my dog and leash them. not just for the security of the stranger but for the security of my animal and my peace of mind. i've had people cross the street because of my bulldogs... all the while their two pound yapper is lunging and snarling ...  but the owner looks at me and MY dogs as if we're the rude ones.

    • Gold Top Dog

     All dogs bite. At least, all dogs that have teeth bite.

     

    You might not have seen the circumstance that will cause your dogs to bite, yet, but I can guarantee you, 100%, that it exists.

    • Gold Top Dog

    DumDog
    if he isnt 100% reliable then how dare you walk him without a leash

     

     

    I think some people well and truly need to get over themselves Indifferent

     

    Yes i have well behaved,reliable dogs.I know this concept is hard for some people to comprehend,but there are many dogs like mine out there. I'm not going to let a few overly paranoid,aggressive dog owning members on this thread who think all dogs are rabid unreliable beasts talk me into leashing my dogs for no good reason at all!

    • Gold Top Dog

    let me assure you that I am not an overly paranoid, agressive dog owning member, nor do I think all dogs are rabid unreliabe beasts.  I still leash my dogs when required/requested, and find places for them to run that are not in violation of laws and/or rules.

    I do believe that no one should make the choice that THEY are above the law, better than everyone else, and screw the world around them and the people in it.  So what if the little old lady has a heart attack because a loose dog strikes terror in her?  Screw her.  After all, MY rights are certainly more important than anyone elses.  Not so much.

    • Gold Top Dog

    "Be the change you wish to see in the world"

     

    I can assure we a majority of our members have dogs with amazing recall and COULD safely allow our dogs off leash. But the simple fact that we are curteous to other people living in this world who have as much a right to live and walk safely as we do dosnt give you the right to freak out on us. I'm sorry for you and your dogs.

    • Gold Top Dog

    This has nothing to do with my dog being aggressive or not.  If the law or requirements are to leash the dog.  The dog should be leashed.  If you cannot walk fast enough to exercise your dogs properly at that place then find another place.  For some reason you seem to think the law and/or rules of places that require a leash don't apply to you. 

    Edited to say-I also don't by any stretch of the imagination think all dogs are rabid and unreliable. 

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    Edie


     I'm not going to let a few overly paranoid,aggressive dog owning members on this thread who think all dogs are rabid unreliable beasts talk me into leashing my dogs for no good reason at all!

     

     

    To not break the law is a VERY good reason.   

    • Gold Top Dog

    I do not, by any stretch, think that all dogs are rabid and unreliable. I am a pet care professional, and have been for several years. I handle more dogs on a weekly basis than the average pet owner handles in a year. I see dogs when they're totally stressed out. I've had dogs who "would never bite" bite me, badly.

     

    My dog is 100% reliable, off lead. In fact, my dog competes at busy dog shows, in a show ring, with TONS of distraction, off lead. That's something that takes a LOT of conditioning. I still keep her on a lead where it's appropriate.  

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    swamper

    To not break the law is a VERY good reason.   

    I live in a very small, very busy, suburban town with a very strict leash law. So, a leash is mandatory here because police and ACO's will fine you if your dog isn't on a leash. I'd rather throw a leash on Apollo- he doesn't mind- and not pay a fine!

    • Gold Top Dog

    swamper

    Edie


     I'm not going to let a few overly paranoid,aggressive dog owning members on this thread who think all dogs are rabid unreliable beasts talk me into leashing my dogs for no good reason at all!

     

     

    To not break the law is a VERY good reason.   

     

    Wellll...

    I don't care for Edie's attitude, and I definitely care about how other people feel, but I'm just not that concerned with obeying laws 100% of the time. I've been known to jaywalk, for example. And in the "unofficial" dog beach on the lagoon, I will let Sasha off lead. (We only go there when few to no other dogs are there). This small stretch of beach is really only used by people with off leash dogs, so no one is being imposed upon.

    Even leashed, accidents happen. A leash breaks, it is accidentally dropped, a collar is slipped. If Edie's dogs are extremely reliable, I wouldn't mind them being off leash in my neighborhood. I have a live and let live attitude about many things.  If someone is breaking the law in a way that isn't going to harm other people, it doesn't bother me.

    I feel like the possibility of scaring other people is a more compelling reason than obeying the law. The fact is, if I see a stranger with dogs off leash, *I* don't know how well behaved or trained those dogs are. And I've met too many badly behaved off leash dogs to take it for granted that an unknown dog won't be a problem.

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    Dog_ma
    I have a live and let live attitude about many things.  If someone is breaking the law in a way that isn't going to harm other people, it doesn't bother me.

     

     

    That is EXACTLY how i feel! 

    Breed banning legislation is another law that i believe many people here wouldn't agree with. What about Gun laws? Just about anyone can go out and buy a gun.Making guns to the general public illegal is definitely one law i would be happy to follow and support. There are loads more laws/rules and regulations that just are not fair,and most often the innocent people are most affected.... Land of the free..my butt! Hmm

    I'm not one to get on my high horse and look down on people who don't do as i do,or scoff at people who break silly little laws.As stated above live and let live,as long as other people aren't getting hurt in the process then i am not bothered! There are far more important things to worry about then who's dogs gets walked off leash and who's doesn't Confused

    Leash Laws is one rule i have never and will never follow(unless ofcourse i have a dog or people aggressive dog,then i would have NO choice,but whilst i have dogs that can be trusted off leash then that is how they will stay.),and as i have stated many times before i go out of my way to walk in less densely populated areas ,i dont do dog parks and crammed to the brim parks or neighborhood walks,or strolls thru town.

    I am very very proud of the fact that i have friendly,sociable,obedient dogs and their and mines reward is free running/walking time.Sure they can run around in the back yard,and walked on leash when we go out,but i can not compare our boring old yard to wandering around sniffing and exploring new and exciting places,stuff that just cant be adequately achieved on the end of a leash. They go swimming nearly everyday,they romp through bushes and long reeds,if they were on lead they couldn't do any of these things. If they were on leash how would they run and play together at full pelt speed etc etc etc? None of the things that make my dogs happy whilst out on walks could be achieved if they were on the end of a lead.

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    Edie

    DumDog
    if he isnt 100% reliable then how dare you walk him without a leash

     

     

    I think some people well and truly need to get over themselves Indifferent

     

     

    did you read EVERYTHING i wrote or just that part?

     

    i said i do it for my peace of mind and my own dogs safety... not for the same of someone elses safety and peace of mind. but if i kill two birds with one stone then all the better.

    i'm curious too what breeds you own or what your dogs look like.  

    • Gold Top Dog

     

    I guess that its the "me first, screw the rest of the world" attitude that I find most disturbing. I've loaded up my dogs and driven MILES to take them to a safe and legal place to romp off leash in the past, and I'll do it again if the need arises. MY rights are not more important than those of anyone else.
    • Gold Top Dog

    Well Edie and Dogma, while I agree that some dogs are better behaved off leash and it's more fun for the dog to be off leash, it's people who show total disregard for leash laws that are causing certain areas and parks to ban dogs altogether.

     Rather than thumbing your nose at laws, it is far better to rally together and try to have more off-leash areas put in, to be respectful of wildlife and other people and dogs.  Because you see, sometimes these laws are in public parks to protect the wildlife, nesting birds, what-have-you - sometimes the laws are put into place to protect people and other pets who may not want to have their experience over-run with loose dogs.  And by basically thumbing your nose at the laws put into effect to protect other creatures, you are in fact causing the rest of us to be banned from bringing our well-behaved (and leashed if required) dogs.

    So I'm sorry - I respect your right to have your dog off leash - ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY and off-leash areas.  If you want your dog to run off leash, buy property and allow him to do so, take him to non-leash required parks, etc.  There are many choices available, but not for long if people continue to be disrepectful.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I do see Edie's point, though- let's say you have gone to a deserted field for the past twenty years and played off-leash fetch with your dogs, bothering no one. And one day you show up and there is, inexplicably, a Leashed Dogs Only sign. What what you do? Go dump your big dogs at a shelter because you can't exercise them anymore? attempt to win the lottery so you can buy property? or guess what most people would probably do- ignore the sign.

    We have this irritating situation where we have several off-leash dog-oriented parks- one with nice trails and a swimming pond, and two with big fields for playing fetch games. There aren't any signs indicating their use, which for the past several decades has been 99% off-leash dog work. Legally, by the way. You get the occasional out of control rude "over friendly" dog with stupid owner, but mostly you just wave as you pass another dog-owner out exercising their off-leash dog. And then you'll get a jogger, or people who come in parading a dog around on a leash and acting holier-than-thou.  There's currently one lady with an extremely leash-reactive dog who has been strutting around the trails and screaming at everyone to keep their dogs away and why don't you leash them- even if the dogs show no inclination to approach. Why? why do these people come to the areas where it is well-known legally off-leash dogs will be encountered? they have dozens of leashed-dogs areas they can go to.