Republican/Conservative Corner

timsdat

The trickle down theory works.  It was proven the the 80's with the Reagan tax cuts and again after 2001 with the Bush tax cuts.  Our growth in the 80 and 90 was fueled by those tax cuts that Reagan pushed thru.

Yes the rich get the biggest part of the cut.  They are also the ones paying the most!  Now I ask you do you believe in our constitution that states that everyone should be treated equally under the law or socialism where the wealth should be spread around and people that make too much money should have it taken away from them.

Check some time to see how much in taxes is paid by what percentage of people as to what they earn.  The top 5% of wages pays over 50% of the total taxes.  The top 50% pay over 95% of taxes.

That was my argument/side and that's why I always felt I was Republican because of feeling this same way that Timsdat just said

For everyone dollar my Dad makes he pays 44 cents to the government. [He told me this two weeks ago] My mouth DROPPED...

sillysally

If you are not making enough money you either have to get a better job, move closer to work, or get a second job.  Hey, I know it's rough--the only reason we are able to afford a home is because DH makes roughly twice what I do (and I have more education than him--go figure).

Forgot one,  Cut back and live within your means!!!

timsdat

sillysally

If you are not making enough money you either have to get a better job, move closer to work, or get a second job.  Hey, I know it's rough--the only reason we are able to afford a home is because DH makes roughly twice what I do (and I have more education than him--go figure).

Forgot one,  Cut back and live within your means!!!

And this one... Don't be stupid and use your credit card during college! Listen to Daddy!

THAT is the one the screwed me... blah... :o(

Pomeranian <3

timsdat

Check some time to see how much in taxes is paid by what percentage of people as to what they earn.  The top 5% of wages pays over 50% of the total taxes.  The top 50% pay over 95% of taxes.

For everyone dollar my Dad makes he pays 44 cents to the government. [He told me this two weeks ago] My mouth DROPPED...

Know what really makes me mad though... isn't this communism?! The more you make the more they take? That's trying to make everyone EQUAL by government FORCE right???

What's the deal with the flat rate tax idea? I'm not familiar with it; can anyone enlighten me?

Pomeranian <3

THAT is the one the screwed me... blah... :o(

Ok then don't complain that you don't have any money because of something you did to yourself.  Bare down and fix the problem.  I'm sure that if you looked at your budget there is some fat that could be trimmed.

 everyone, regardless of income, gets taxed at the same rate.

timsdat

Pomeranian <3

THAT is the one the screwed me... blah... :o(

Ok then don't complain that you don't have any money because of something you did to yourself.  Bare down and fix the problem.  I'm sure that if you looked at your budget there is some fat that could be trimmed.

Well the CC debt only accounts for $200 - 375 a month... but to me that's a lot of money. Once that's all gone i'll be fine. I regret it, stupid college child that i was, haha. But I an hard core strict with my money now! :o)

come find the "fat that could be trimmed" for me... i'm still looking for more ways. I was thinking consolidating since I've got college loans too... plus my mazda broke down so i bought my toyota yaris yay car payment... grrr haha I'm working on it... uphill battle but i'll get there

cyclefiend2000

 everyone, regardless of income, gets taxed at the same rate.

Initial reaction to this is "ummm yes lets do this" but then I think wait a minute... the lower/middle class will get "screwed" in a way since they can't make it too low so they will make it a decent percentage and then it may be higher than what some people are paying now... right????

Did they ball park a percentage yet???

 the upper class usually balks at flat rate taxes in my experience.

Pomeranian <3

come find the "fat that could be trimmed" for me...

I could do it but you probably wouldn't like it.  Three quick things,  got a cell phone,  cable tv, internet access.  Get rid of those three and there is probably a couple of hundred already.  These are not necessity's of life and you could get along just fine without them.  I seem to remember something about season tickets to a sports team.  That must cost a pretty penny!  Didn't you just get a new big screen TV.  Kind of pricey isn't it.

cyclefiend2000

the upper class usually balks at flat rate taxes in my experience.

Well the flat tax eliminates all deductions and tax shelters but beyond that it completely does away with need for tax accountants and tax lawyers and many of those people are the upper class as you describe so they are looking out for their livelyhood.  See if you are rich beyond a certain point you can shelter much of your income easily so the current system can't really touch you.  If you are one of the sort of rich people or middle class flat tax in in a persons benefit depending on the rate they set.

timsdat

Pomeranian <3

come find the "fat that could be trimmed" for me...

I could do it but you probably wouldn't like it.  Three quick things,  got a cell phone,  cable tv, internet access.  Get rid of those three and there is probably a couple of hundred already.  These are not necessity's of life and you could get along just fine without them.  I seem to remember something about season tickets to a sports team.  That must cost a pretty penny!  Didn't you just get a new big screen TV.  Kind of pricey isn't it.

Boyfriend pays for Cable/Internet & he bought the TV (psh that guy is screwed financially... lol you need to talk to him about trimming the fat)

I have no idea what I would do w/o my cell phone... it rings all the time I MUST need it ;o) Okay that is $50 a month I really wanna keep :o(

My family inherited the tickets so my Dad pays for those... so I got to attend all the games for free; that's my one special life event! haha

My boyfriend is a tech FREAK... I think he'd die without his stuff... if you walked in my apartment you seriously would laugh at me, I have no doubt in that. I have everything I could possibly need minus money in the bank... I hate that though

 if i ever hit the lotto, i am moving to monaco and giving you all the finger!

timsdat

cyclefiend2000

the upper class usually balks at flat rate taxes in my experience.

Well the flat tax eliminates all deductions and tax shelters but beyond that it completely does away with need for tax accountants and tax lawyers and many of those people are the upper class as you describe so they are looking out for their livelyhood.  See if you are rich beyond a certain point you can shelter much of your income easily so the current system can't really touch you.  If you are one of the sort of rich people or middle class flat tax in in a persons benefit depending on the rate they set.

Okay I need to borrow your brain for a day so I can have a good political debate with my Step-Father. I never know how to say things right but you do... let me borrow your brain, one day, please please please