Apartment dogs - tips, please! (Cita)

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    Apartment dogs - tips, please! (Cita)

     So, Rascal and I are trying to decide whether or not we should move to an apartment. (We've decided that BF can come too Stick out tongue) It's a super nice apartment, allows pets, 3 elevators, etc... *but* it *is* on the 23rd floor. I'm a little bit anxious about how the pottying routine is going to work out.

    Those of you who live in apartments, how do you manage? Is it easy, hard...? I'm not so concerned about exercise (there's a nice park nearby), but the pottying has me worried, especially if there are midnight emergencies or something. Also, Rascal isn't used to super urban living, so I'm worried he might get freaked out about, say, other people in the elevators.

    Anyone with advice or tips for us? :) 

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    Gingerbread did great in an apartment, but our situation was a little different. I cannot imagine being on the 23rd floor! I guess it would be a good idea to take him out before you think he needs to potty. It definitely seems like a big pain to have to take an elevator up and down all those floors for every potty break. I was on the 3rd floor in an apartment and I used puppy pads. I think a lot of people with small dogs in high rise aparments use puppy pads or a doggie litterbox. I know it was much more convenient for me, plus I didn't have to take Gingerbread out late at night or in the rain. I like him always having a potty available too.
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    Although I've lived in an apartment with both dogs, we lived and the ground floor--it really wasn't set up like a traditional apartment.  I would think that if Rascal is fully housebroken he should do OK.  I just can't imagine housebreaking a pup in a high rise apartment....Stick out tongue 

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    Ohmigosh, I know! Rascal's fully housebroken.... in this house. He is very much not housebroken in my BF's family's house, which has no carpeted floors (unlike my house with wall-to-wall). The apartment also is carpeted. Hopefully the "carpet=no potty" rule will carry over!

    How do puppy pads/litterboxes work? Doesn't it get really stinky? 

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    Cita
    Hopefully the "carpet=no potty" rule will carry over!

     

    Don't count on that at all. In fact, I'd be real surprised if he made the connection without some help from you. :)  

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    The puppy pads don't get stinky because I throw it away each time he uses it. When he makes "big business" it doesn't smell too good, but it's the same as as a person using the bathroom. lol I usually light a scented candle. When we're gone he's in his crate, so the pads really do get cleaned up right away. The litterbox I think could get kind of gross because it's a pelleted litter like yesterday's news. I think the urine soaking into it and getting on the plastic at the bottom would be nasty. The puppy pads though are similar to a diaper with an absorbent top and plastic leakproof bottom. I've been using them for over 2 years now and the system works great for us.
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    I live in a large Apartment with 3 dogs and 2 of them are large breed.Although it isn't as easy as living in a house it is doable, I just take my dogs out for a potty break every 3 hours and have 1 hour of excersise daily. The pads do work great but I got away from using them because i find them  bit unsightly in the house and changing them everyday can be a pain, for me taking the dogs outside is easier.

    Good Luck

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    Much of this is training -- elevators ALONE are training (and start taking him to anyplace you can think of that has an elevator -- they are scarey for dogs until they learn how to deal with this darned room that moves!!!! And yes, learning you gotta 'sit' in the elevator cos other people get off and on -- TRAINING CURVE).

    However, this is MY experience -- and I hate the whole litter/puppy pad thing that is out in full view -- it stinks, it can RUIN the flooring underneath if they hit the edge and it leaks under -- it will leech into the linoleum and you can't get the smell out.  It can = damage deposit goes bye bye!!!

    Back when I had Prissy I was a life-time apartment dweller. Yeah, midnight potty runs can get tense – just getting a dog to WAIT that long (i.e., getting down 23 floors in an elevator) can be difficult and a judgment call, not to mention the danger involved.

    However, it also has to be something that Rascal is ‘ok’ with. This is a big training curve --and one you have to work on and it can be hard.

    You’ve probably read this from me before – but years ago when I had Miss Priss she was an OLD girl. (like she lived to be almost 21 but this was during her years 9 - 15)

    I was single and teaching and often work excruciating hours (by the time I was at school all day, then had to roll right into meetings and then evening church and sometimes later than that) -- occasionally I couldn’t get away to go home and let her out and she was there WAY too long.

    SHE found her own workaround actually. She had been paper-trained originally (before I had her) and it was Prissy’s theory that if you REALLY had to go, just find something small, relatively square, and absorbent and it would work!! (Which could be anything from a throw rug a magazine, my sweater, etc. etc. etc.). Now – she was also extremely bright and when I’d come home and she had done something she *knew* was not quite ‘cool’ she would meet me at the door and beg me to follow her to "where-ever".

    One night after a marathon day I was expecting a mess, but came home to her sitting prettily by the door with that "let me show you" look. She took me to the bathroom where, on the little rug in front of the toilet was her ‘mess’.

    Now, I don’t know about you, but I thot that was pretty danged clever – she went to the right room, and as close as she could get to what the human did ... on something small and kinda rectangular and definitely absorbent!! I told her that was absolutely fine, apologized that *I* was so late.

    However, no way was I going to the laundry room in an apartment complex at midnight! Nope – not that stupid!! So, I tipped the rug into the toilet to flush the poop, and tossed the rug in the bathtub to rinse it off. I just left it there because it was damp and and we went for our walk despite the fact that it was midnight.

    Frankly, I forgot about the darned rug. I was tired so when we got back it never entered my mind to do anything else with that rug, and in the morning by the time I found it when I showered, I just put it back in there cos it was still a tad bit damp and .... I didn’t want a sour rug in the laundry basket either.

    It was another marathon day (we were having some conference or something) and I got home again very late. Met at the door by another Miss Priss "come hither" look and I followed her into the bathroom thinking "Darn – and now the rug isn’t in front of the toilet!!"

    Nope – no mess in front of the toilet. Good girl!! but nope – she was sitting in front of the TUB. I peeked in and ... yep, there on the rug lying in the tub was ... poop. And ... a little yellow trail leading down the drain. I’ll be darned!!

    Repeated the ritual of the night before except I did a better job of washing the little rug, but again I left it in the tub. She and I had a little talk and I told her this was a GREAT PLACE she’d found to go!!

    From then on I would leave folded paper towel in the bathtub when I knew it might get late. She would hop into the tub if she had to go, potty and cleanup was a BREEZE. A little Chlorox in the tub, flush the waste – far far easier than her soiling anywhere else.

    This was before the days of puppy-pads-for-sale – but if Rascal has ever used one, you could simply pick a spot Rascal can get to and leave a puppy pad.

    Prissy and I communicated well enough and she was old enough and well-trained enough by then that she never would soil until she absolutely had to. This didn’t break her housetraining at all. SHE was thrilled with the fact there wasn’t an ‘accident’ (she was extremely fastidious ... altho she could also be a little stinker if she decided *I* was remiss in not letting HER out!!).

    From thereafter all I had to do was point to the tub after I’d put paper in there and say "I might be late – go here if you gotta!" -- but you could do something very similar for any emergencies after midnight. If I was doing it again I would put a couple of steps in front of the tub (Prissy was a pom/peke mix and this only didn’t work after she got too elderly to spring into the tub but by then I was in a house.)

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     I lived in an apartment with Sierra for a while. Pottying wasn't really a problem, since I know her schedule. I took her out before I thought she'd need to go, and it worked well. I don't recall having night-time emergencies, since I always took her out within 1/2 hour of going to bed.

    I also had no problem with the elevator. Sierra took to it like she'd done it all her life.

    That being said, she DID have issues with other people being so close. Sierra doesn't like people being so close to her home, and would bark/growl whenever she heard people in the hallway. It stressed her, and it stressed us. She was always nervous. It was a big part of why we moved out after 6 months. She relaxed considerably once we moved back into a house-type situation.
     

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    That being said, she DID have issues with other people being so close. Sierra doesn't like people being so close to her home, and would bark/growl whenever she heard people in the hallway. It stressed her, and it stressed us. She was always nervous. It was a big part of why we moved out after 6 months. She relaxed considerably once we moved back into a house-type situation.

    Yeah, this is a biggy - Rascal lived in an apartment (without me) for a brief while and it really stressed him out. Fortunately the building we're looking at is super silent, and I've been working on desensitizing the Rascal to "home invasion noises" (lol), so hopefully we could make it work... as for elevators, we might have to work a bit to get him used to standing in one, but if I'm carrying him he doesn't mind at all. I sometimes take him to meetings with me, in his carrier, and he's never batted an eye at an elevator. Worst case scenario, he loves being carried around in my backpack - I've snuck him into quite a few places like that, lol!

    Edit: I really like the bathtub potty idea, assuming I could rig some "escape stairs"! :) 

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    Elevator training is actually fun -- you just have to look at the whole thing form the DOG'S perspective.

    The humans stand and wait and wait for this door to open.  And dang ... it doesn't GO anywhere 'cept this little bitty tiny room.  and WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA there's this deep CAVE under the elvater thingamy -- I mean just LOOK down that crack and you kin see FUREVER down there.  And SNIFF ... whoa ... if you get past that machiney smell ... there's bunches of peepuls and ... whoa ... other places you kind sniff. 

    (so they get kinda lost if they discover all the smells in the door crack.)

    Well dang, mom's in a hurry so we go into this small room.  I mean THIS IS WEIRD FOLKS ... there's no place ta sit, no food, no tv -- I mean what DO ya do in here?? and WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA the dange thing MOVES.  That door shut and ... Mom you don't know it but we is MOVIN!! 

    (time for a treat Mom)

    WHOA ... it stopped.  Door opened.  WHERE THE HECK ARE WE???  Mom .... I hate ta tell ya ... but we aren't in kansas any more.  We are NOT home.  We are NOT where we started.  We are ...

    MOM THE WHOLE DANGED ROOM MOVED SOMEPLACE ELSE!!!

    Sidenote: Now ... if you can possibly find  hotel with a mezzanine or someplace where you can go out and look over a balcony so the dog can 'sniff' and see he's just "above" where he was before -- they get their bearings and figure it pretty quick.  THEN it becomes fun. 

    recruit some strangers or neighbors and while you are IN the elevator ask them to give Rascal a treat (making sure he is sitting and 'rewardable'.)  Tell them you are simply "training". 

    La Quintas, Best Westerns, bigger Comfort Inns and Quality Inns -- these places often have elevators.  

    I have done TONS of training with mine in elevators, in reception areas -- Last week Billy posted about going to the motel in Tampa.  And yeah, I actually DO take them to the reception areas in motels, literally to get them to sit, and WATCH people come in and out, to see what goes on and that these people belong there and are ALLOWED to be there. 

    We also play "wheres OUR room" games -- apartment complexes, less than motels, have a more set pattern of scents because people LIVE there, rather than just stay for a night.  But reminding the dog that Mrs. Schmuckatella lives there, and the little Jack Russell Terrorist lives there, and the poodle with the pink toenails lives there ... etc. 

    But you train it -- like anything else.

    And even if you don't wind up living here?  Frankly, these are life skills for a dog.  If they have them they WILL use them and it just makes them a more welcome guest anywhere.

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    Life skills. I took Emma into an elevator, one time, after her fourth birthday. She flipped out, completely, and as soon as the door opened, she bolted to the end of her lead. I think we'll take the stairs, next time.

     

    And next puppy gets taught, early on, that elevators are a GOOD thing! 

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    i've seen these things...i don't know what they're called or anything, but they're like a 4x4 or so box with sod in it. I don't know if you have a balcony or not, but if so this might be a great thing to put out there! 

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    i've housetrained 2 dogs living on the 10th floor. twice (had to start from scratch after moving). it's really not that hard. yeah, it's not as nice as just opening a door, but it can be done. make sure you keep rascal on a potty schedule! do more frequent trips at first and with time you can extend the time between potty trips downstairs. i had a few accidents while waiting for the elevator. to avoid getting into that pickle, have him wait in a down position for the elevator. that just doesnt even give them the chance to do it. for the elevators my dogs are trained to  sit right next to me. since you have one dog, i would just try establishing a position in the corner. having rascal sit in the corner, and you standing next to him as a buffer between other people. i'm guessing 23rd floor will be close to the top floor so even at busy elevator times you should be able to get a corner spot. also, i've let 3-4 elevators pass to get a not so crouded cabin before. it's easier on the dog and any people that might be afraid of dogs. really though, dont worry too much. it's just a matter of establishing a routine.

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    I can't even imagine getting a potty routine with four large animals in a high rise...23 floors...wow......wouldn't work for me, but an owner with smaller dogs might do better....