Teeth and breeds...

    • Gold Top Dog

    Dogo is yes

    Vizsla is no

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     Rascal has an ever-so-slight ridge - more like a little tiny line than anything - but zero serrations.

    He also says he's mad at you for encouraging me to stick my fingers in his mouth in such an undignified manner. (Sorry.) 

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    Cita

     Rascal has an ever-so-slight ridge - more like a little tiny line than anything - but zero serrations.

    He also says he's mad at you for encouraging me to stick my fingers in his mouth in such an undignified manner. (Sorry.) 

     

     

    Give Rascal a liver treat for me...and tell him I'm sorry!  But thanks for the info. Smile 

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    Salem - 3 year old GSD/Lab/? mix has ridge and serrations

     

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    My sister's pit bull Jaz has very slight serrations, but quite a defined ridge. Compared to Cherokee's very slight ridge and more prominant serrations. Interesting for sure!

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    dunno if it will mean much but i have a coyote skull.. (hit and run that was given to me, i didnt kill it i swear!!) just looked at his ..er.. tooth.. one and only remaining upper canine.. no bumpies but there is a ridge. all my other dogs have a ridge and no bumps. but my dogs are all over the age of two... so maybe after time they wear down with use?

     

    ETA .. many moons ago ive had dogs that had this.. but i cant remember which dogs... was never really a concern.. just as long as they had clean white teeth.. but i do remember some of them having serrated edges ..

    Now.. with permission .. i could take this topic to another forum (lurchers, long dogs, terriers and bulldogs, all workers) and see what they think. these men also hunt coyote and fox.. so they might have some info on that as well?  

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    One of my dogs wore the backs of his canines off so I don't know, but I do recall feeling roughness on the back of his teeth when his canines weren't chipped. The other one has very defined ridges but I'm not sure about the serrations. I think my fingers are too big to tell if she has them or not. One thing to note is that both are the same breed (IG) but one comes from lines with little inbreeding in recent generations while the other I suspect is the product of inbreeding. The one that I think had the ridges and has little inbreeding also has an incredible prey drive while my little girl has very little. I also wonder if this is something that is predominant in coyotes but not in wolves? Anyone have a wolf out there who'll stick their fingers in it's mouth? The one wolf hybrid mentioned so far did not have them but that could have been from the dog side of the family tree. If wolves don't have them that would make your study even more interesting, posing a possibility of some breeds having a closer relation to coyotes or some ancestor more closely related to coyotes. I really do not believe that ALL dogs decended from wolves, but rather wild canid ancestors common to specific regions that had the capability of interbreeding with their closely related canid cousins. (like donkeys and horses, or more accurately like brown bears and polar bears, who do produce sexually reproductive offspring when bred together) Thanks for making me think a little bit today!
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     i agree iggy except donkeys and horses produce sterile offspring. wolves, coyotes, and dogs can all mix and make fertile offspring. but i do agree with you. just had to nit pick lol

    Now... Tigers and Lions would have been a better comparison than brown bears and polar bears... ok i'll stop!! lol Zip it! 

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    DumDog
    but my dogs are all over the age of two... so maybe after time they wear down with use?

    Cherokee's 9 and has 'em.

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    DumDog

     i agree iggy except donkeys and horses produce sterile offspring. wolves, coyotes, and dogs can all mix and make fertile offspring. but i do agree with you. just had to nit pick lol

    Now... Tigers and Lions would have been a better comparison than brown bears and polar bears... ok i'll stop!! lol Zip it! 

    What, you don't like bears?! lol But what is interesting about donkeys and horses....is that once about every 200 or so offspring created between them....one of them turns out to be fertile. It's like natures way of saying "well I don't want it to be this way but if it has to be then fine." But to get back on topic I was just thinking about a study that was conducted on the genes of Salukis and Sloughis (or was it azawakh? I think it was sloughi). Seems like sighthounds decended from a seperate ancestor than other breeds of dogs (not being elitist, each group of dogs decended from something!) and the more primitive the sighthound the more it has retained it's connection to that common ancestor. Now it could be that Pharoah hounds (being a primitive type hound) and coyotes have something more in common with each other genetically or it could simply be that Pharoah hounds have just retained some primitive aspects of wild dogs.
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    My puppy has tiny serrations, but I can't tell you for sure on his breed.  Could be boxer/shepherd, pit x, dutch shepherd x, etc., etc....  I've heard so many...lol!

     

     

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    Zpuppy, 10.5 month old basenji, has a ridge but no serrations.  I didn't check the other badsenjis as they are almost 10 and 11 years, so figured if they had serrations, they'd be gone by now.
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    but mine use theirs a lot on bones, rocks, sticks, tree limbs, tennis balls etc.. they arent worn down but they are well used. and besides.. we havent decided if this is breed specific or not lol

     

    and yeah i sometimes wonder if some sight hounds were descendants of jackals or the African Hunting dog....

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    DumDog
    dunno if it will mean much but i have a coyote skull.. (hit and run that was given to me, i didnt kill it i swear!!)

     

    That's interesting to me.  The coyote that my coworker shot was probably an eastern coyote.  Is it possible that the skull you have is a western one?  Just curious.

    DumDog
    Now.. with permission .. i could take this topic to another forum (lurchers, long dogs, terriers and bulldogs, all workers) and see what they think. these men also hunt coyote and fox.. so they might have some info on that as well?  

     

     

    Oh yeah the more the better.  I think all info is good with regard to this subject.  I'm learning alot and will probably be able to convert it into something useful, at least to me. 

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    Emma is a 4 year old PRT who is extremely rough on her teeth. She actually has one of the tiny front teeth injured, to the point that it's going to fall out one of these days... It's yellow[:)}

    She likes to bite chain link, crush tennis balls, and play tug nonstop. Her teeth are serrated. There isn't a defined ridge, but definitely serrated. It feels like the edge of a dime.

     

    Teenie, the old Dachshund, has teeth so worn they have no texture left.