Barking, What can be done?

Keep them inside, where they feel safe? 

We tried that, Not going there again. Max knocked down my China cabnit and broke my green glass wear that my 3great grandma brought from Russia, Praised at nearly 50K.-_-"

So... your dogs live outside? 24/7? 

Estep, Daniel Q. & Hetts, Suzanne, Help! I'm Barking and I Can't Be Quiet: A pet parenting guide, 9/2004
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Ryan, Terry, The Bark Stops Here, 3/2000
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Yes they are outside 24/7 unless its 40F or colder then they are bought in and put in the spare room. Mostly because Max is agressive towards my Puppy Missy and my cat Priss, His also so big he knocks my kids over with his butt. Lila comes in every now and then because she a good girl and acts nicely. We tried trainng and helping max get over his lil cocky self while inside, Doesn't help.

They mostly bark off in the field , You can hear coyotes, I am guessing thats the main thing they are barking at.

They're barking because they're bored and under stimulated. They're barking because dogs are pack animals, and they're in isolation. They want to be part of your family. 

I work outside 5-9hours daily and I am always around my dogs. From them bring in cattle with me to us sitting down playing. They get alot of attention even apart from one another. I take max with me every other day when I go wallking from my house to the lake,4mile walk, Then the next day I take Lila.  They get alot of attention, The barking just recently started in the last week for some weird reason.Lila is the one barking more so then Maxie which is odd considering his the overbaring one and lila is always quite and subbmissive.

Honestly you talk about 'training' like it's a one shot deal.  It's not.  It's every single moment of every day.  And a LOT of us in multiple animal households do it. 

If his "cocky lil self" was at MY house he'd drag a leash or be leashed TO me til he learned to have a seat and chill out a bit.  You don't treat the "inside" like you do the outside. 

there's a marvelous training technique you need to read about -- it's called NILIF -- go to google and paste this next line in:

"Nothing in life is free" training

You'll find a TON of hits and they're all good. 

You can't look at training as this little 'aside' thing -- it's every second.  Because whatever you do in 'training' has to be something they are REQUIRED to do every second of every day.  Yep, it takes effort and it takes a ton of day in and day out effort -- but you wind up in pretty short order with dogs that are pleasant inside and out. 

but bored dogs bark -- and your dogs are bored.  It's nighttime that is actually the most important in pack structure.  And frankly having them outside ensures that they really don't pay much attention to you -- particularly "inside". 

There are rooms in my house where my dogs don't go.  Rooms where there are breakable things.  I simply gate them off so they aren't in there unaccompanied. 

But neither do I allow the dogs to just tear thru the house. Honestly, I can't.  I'm more than a bit handicapped and if they were racing pell mel thru the house they'd knock me down.  It's not unfair -- it's just a matter of training. 

You *could* do it if it were important to you. The question you have to ask yourself is whether or not it is important to you.  You aren't going to get them to stop barking without intense training. 

Have you tried crate training them inside? Personally, there are too many dangers for dogs to be outside for long periods of time witthout a human there. It only takes one more night of your neighbor getting PO'd, and one bottle of anti-freeze... not a pretty picture, but it's the truth.

Dogs want to be with their families, not stuck outside all alone. I tell my adopters that 'you are adopting a family dog, your family does not live out the backyard, why should your family pet?'

We worked with him day in and day out for 6months. Even took him to classes with a local trainer, She couldnt even get him to listen to her or me. He tore open her jeans trying to get away from her. That was when he stoped being taken to classes, The lady was at her wits end with him, As is my husband. Last night we where going to put them in the spare room in the house until Max grabbed my cat and busted her ear drum, Then his little butt got kicked back outside.

He knows Commands such as "come,Sit,stay,No,Move, Bring in,Push out,around and heel" But thats it.

Sorry -- but there's a gap in training somewhere.  I'm honestly of the opinion that no dog is beyond redemption unless there is some serious personality defect.  Like I said -- if he were at my house he'd drag a leash (and maybe a log chain attached to it if that's what it took to keep hold of him) CONSTANTLY until he got a clue.

when Luna moved in with us she was the WILDEST little gal I've ever known.  she was GREAT with other dogs, but doing what a human said was just plain beyond her!!

She was leashed inside for FOUR MONTHS. Literally leashed TO me for most of that.  Yep -- FOUR.  It took me that long to get her to the point where she decided (and a big share of this was HER decision) to *care* what a human wanted. 

And I just keep on.  Leashing isn't a punishment -- it's just plain the way it is.  And if she self-corrects by lunging when she's leashed .. she's aware she's the one who 'moved'.

But we maintain an absolutely strict "NILIF" -- I have had days where I insisted on feeding kibble by kibble -- and if you won't sit -- you don't eat. 

Wasn't one of these the dog that got beaten?I thought you said they would be inside and at the time you said a 51/2 ft. fence If my dog got beaten, I sure as heck would'nt leave them outside--they're probably afraid!         

not trying to add gas to the fire but seriously dogs should be inside at night at the minimum. if not, than outside at night for the least amount of time possible, with a nice warm, secure place for them to sleep/rest.

maizysmom

Wasn't one of these the dog that got beaten?I thought you said they would be inside and at the time you said a 51/2 ft. fence If my dog got beaten, I sure as heck would'nt leave them outside--they're probably afraid!         

Hmm thats what I read too,  are you not afraid someone might hurt your dog again? .