The AKC and mixed breeds?

It is under consideration because of the overall loss of income.  Speed is not a consideration on the part of the AKC. So I would not expect it soon.  The most current reliable information would from the AKC Gazette or if you belong to a national breed club, from your delegate.

I just checked the AKC's site and didn't see anything.  Of course, with the headache I'm gettting, I could have missed it. 

Iv'e heard rumors of it. If true, it would be the most sensible thing this current administration has done in a while.

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If someone wants to compete in AKC Obedience, their dog better be purebred with papers, or else they can only compete in Rally.

Well--if it's a purebred (or will pass for one, I suppose) and fixed you can get an Indefinite Listing Privilege on it and compete in any of the events except Conformation. Although I'm not sure whether you can get an ILF on a non-AKC breed; probably not.

But doesn't the ILP program solve the issue for dogs that are purebred without papers?   I don't know how far from the standard you can get with an ILP but it does solve the purebred-rescue-dog dilemma for performance events.  (I have an ILP and PEN for Tux so we can compete in Obedience/Tracking.)
 
I think a separate class for mixes would be awesome at performance events.  The UKC will register mixes for performance events.  It opens doors for those of us who have "mutts" who would be stellar performance dogs.

An Australian Shepherd can be purebred, but if it does not have papers, it cannot compete in AKC. And the same goes for all other events. If someone wants to compete in AKC Obedience, their dog better be purebred with papers, or else they can only compete in Rally.

 
Actually, if the dog looks enough like a purebred, it can get an ILP and compete in nonconformation events.  Aussies included.  (Although there is/was a huge debate going on about the Aussie that won the 12" jump height at the Invitational.  But that's another issue altogether.)  We had no problem getting an ILP on our Malinois that came from Mal rescue. 
 
I've heard murmurrings of this for years.  If you're waiting for it, I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. 

Discussion about this issue is partly related to the animals who have been granted ILPs.  Some of the animals are only marginally within the type set for the standard.  Some of these animals (especially in agility) were doing very well.  Of course there were sour grapes.  I think that had some impact on the discussions that were started.

ORIGINAL: mrv

Discussion about this issue is partly related to the animals who have been granted ILPs.  Some of the animals are only marginally within the type set for the standard. 

 
I had wondered about this ... For the ILP I just submitted photos.  For my PEN (CKC) I had to have a vet sign saying this is indeed a 27" Doberman Pinscher. 
 
I think that a separate class for mixes would solve any of the "sour grapes" issues.  It would require more organization - but would probably solve a lot of problems in the long run...

Wouldn't opening AKC to mixed-breed dogs be in complete opposition to their stated purpose? There are already many venues in which to compete with mixed-breed dogs.

I can see both sides of the story as well.  On the one hand the  "motto"  of the AKC is to provide a venue for pure bred dogs, so allowing mixed breeds would seem to go against what they are all about.  On the other hand allowing mixed breeds into companion events would most certainly increase revenue for the AKC.

ORIGINAL: agilebasenji
(Although there is/was a huge debate going on about the Aussie that won the 12" jump height at the Invitational.  But that's another issue altogether.) 

Agiliebasenji - that whole "aussie" debate going around has made me stop and think about competing in AKC events.  It seems like even if you get an ILP you can still get challenged? Its all sour grapes if you ask me.  I think I'll stick with USDAA []

The only problem for me arises in events that are not that common outside of AKC and/or UKC. There are so many forums for agility, flyball, obedience, but how many non-AKC/UKC tracking events are held every year? What about Earthdog?

I'm a complete outsider to AKC (though I'll probably get Marlowe his ILP when the time comes so he can do AKC tracking), so for me it just would be nice if there were more forums for all kinds of dogs to engage in whatever sport suits them and their needs. It's about the dogs' quality of life. And I know that helping dogs have a good quality of life is not the AKC's mission, but I can't help but in my gut feel it kind of should at least play some part.

Agiliebasenji - that whole "aussie" debate going around has made me stop and think about competing in AKC events. It seems like even if you get an ILP you can still get challenged? Its all sour grapes if you ask me. I think I'll stick with USDAA

 
I think part of the problem in this particular case, at least as I understand it, is that the dog was competing in other venues as different breed.  Either it's an Aussie (an AKC breed) or it's a North American Shepherd (? that may not be exactly right) and it's not an AKC breed.  Is the Mini Aussie a different breed from the Aussie?  I have no idea. 
 
I do know of someone who has a Laekenois who ILP'd her dog as a malinois.  (The dog was out of coat when she took the ILP pics.)  Personally, I like the owner and the dog and everywhere else in the world all the Belgians are the same breed, but according to the AKC they are not.  And she knows her dog is a Laekenois, but put it down as a Malinois, which _is_ falsifying paperwork.  Just because you don't like the rules doesn't give you an okay to not follow them.  Especially in the case of agility where there are a lot of other venues that are more welcoming. 
 
When we were looking for our malinois, we specificly looked for a malinois that we would be able to ILP without any problem.  If we could not have done that, we probably would have gone the breeder route. 
 
(Aside:  I think the Laekenois is now part of the Misc class or an FSS breed, but this was not the case at the time.  And I haven't seen her in a while, so the whole think may be moot now anyway.)
 
The thing I like about the AKC is that it acknowledges (almost) everything my dogs do.  My dogs are so much more than "just" an agility dog.  Which, to me, is what a purebred dog should be.  An ideal dog should be able to get his CH and his field titles AND do agility.  And rally.  And obedience.  And therapy work (which the AKC does not recognize). 
 
But I do think a lot of that is going out the window as I see BC's getting smaller and smaller.  And other breeds developing a distinct split between the conformation and the field type dogs.  The attitude seems to be "who cares about the good of the breed as long as I can win."  (Of course that attitude is found in the conformation ring too.)   
 
And now I'd like to applogize to the OP for taking this thread off course.  [&:]

Just wanted to respond to agiliebasenji, then I'll stay on topic, sorry.. []

ORIGINAL: agilebasenji
I think part of the problem in this particular case, at least as I understand it, is that the dog was competing in other venues as different breed. Either it's an Aussie (an AKC breed) or it's a North American Shepherd

It can get confusing if you ask me...in my case, is Dasher a JRT or Parson?  (I know which breed he is, but just using this as an example) According to the breed standard they are in essence the same breed but the AKC bought the name Parson Russell from the JRTCA so now the JRT are seperate from the Parsons. I in no way would have to alter Dasher's picture in order to get an ILP as a Parson, yet he meets the standard for JRT as well, and to make things more confusing the JRTCA and AKC are allowing dual registrations for nutered/spayed dogs as I know some people who have JRT and show in AKC.  Their paperwork states their dog's parents as JRT not Parsons.  (Some people even list their dog as a JRT when they fill out their show forms!) Nuts!![8D]

In the case of the Aussie in question, the way I see it is that this Aussie has been showing for years in AKC venues and its only when she wins the Nationals that a grievence is filed? [8|]