Is it really that wrong to eat dogs and cats?

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    Just for entertainment, I would encourage everyone to take a look at the OP's profile and see the other posts he/she has made today. We have an eloquent philosopher ha ha ha ha!
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    I checked out that post......hahaha
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    ORIGINAL: houndlove

    ratsicles, will you marry me?
    [:D][:D][:D]

     
     
    No fair, I wanted to marry her [:(]
     
    Britt, your chickens may be good eatin' too, but Cairo's nice patootie keeps my bed warm at night and doesn't leave little chicken poos in it [:)]
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    I always threaten Slick that if he doesn't behave, we're having Lab Chops for dinner...
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    Oh yes...in summertime we often have to threaten the hounds about getting too close to the BBQ no matter how good it smells. Beagle-Kabobs DO get mentioned...lmao!
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    ORIGINAL: Nikki_Burr

    ORIGINAL: houndlove

    ratsicles, will you marry me?
    [:D][:D][:D]



    No fair, I wanted to marry her [:(]


    Hey now, there's plenty to go around. [sm=biggrin.gif]

    Britt, your chickens may be good eatin' too, but Cairo's nice patootie keeps my bed warm at night and doesn't leave little chicken poos in it [:)]


    Those chicken poops are pretty heinous. Especially when a certain rooster I know perches on my shoulder and poops down the back of my shirt.

    I'll let you experience some chicken poo-love when you come visit next summer. (Because you ARE comming to visit.) I'll save some just for youuuu. [sm=kiss.gif]
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    ORIGINAL: mudpuppy

     No one anywhere in the world raises horses as meat animals, it would cost a fortune per pound.
     
    Actually, in Japan there is a breed of horses that are raised just for food in the Kumomoto area. It's actually quite expensive, called basashi. Eaten raw like sushi or on skewers. Not to bad actually.
    And cows arent eaten in some countries because it is a beast of burden, can't eat the family field plow.
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    I'm a Filipino, born and raised in the Philippines. Here, eating dogs or trading dog meat is illegal so it's already wrong on that basis. I have never met anyone who's eaten dog or have been to a restaurant that serves dog meat. In everything I've heard about this issue, about 99% of the instances occur in the provincial areas, particularly in the Northern part of the country. I think it is already becoming something frowned upon. Even in my grandparents' and parents' provinces, nobody eats dogs but keeps them as pets. In fact, just yesterday in the news, they had a report on dogs who were rescued from illegal dog meat traders.    
     
    To answer the OP's question, I completely agree with Ratsicles.
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    Nope OP never came back...
     
    I think Ron said it best in a previous thread... "never stopped us before"... lol
     
    Were out of beer, Im going to the store...[8D]
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    Even though I don't think the OP meant this as a serious question, it's still one worth asking ourselves.
     
    I'm generally the type of vegetarian that you wouldn't know it if you didn't actually bring it up with me because I don't preach. My feeling is if you can actually do the raising and killing of food yourself and be okay with that, eat up. I have much less problem with hunting than I do with factory farming and buying meat all wrapped in plastic and totally divorced from where it came from.

    I know that I just wouldn't be able to raise and kill an animal, and if I can't do that then I shouldn't ask someone to do it for me in such a way that I can just ignore it and not have to think about it.

     
    That's about where I stand too. I ate meat up until six months ago so I can easily see both sides of the issue... I have to say that even when I was eating meat, though, I felt I did have to participate in a certain amount of rationalization for why it was okay to eat animals x & y but not z. When I asked myself that question, logic would take me down the path of "well, dogs and cats are intelligent and seem to have some consciousness, while cows don't...." but is that true, and how do we know? I think somewhere you're forced to draw a line and that line is kind of arbitrary when you get down to it. There is no hard and fast boundary between "intelligent" and "dumb" animals, especially the more these animals are studied for signs of consciousness, emotion, internal mental lives, etc. I also felt that I was choosing to eat meat basically because I wanted to and I could but ethically it felt a little... problematic. It was hard to read a book like Fast Food Nation and come away thinking the meatpacking industry is fine and dandy from a moral point of view.
     
    As corny as it sounds, as soon as we got a dog my boyfriend and I started thinking more about how animals intersected with our lives and that includes our diets. The kicker was when BF was studying to be a trucker and learned about what it entails to haul loads of cattle... needless to say they aren't exactly flying first class. He came home from school that day and said he was off meat, and I joined him.
     
    Part of my feelings about meat-eating/vegetarianism are that if you, like me, have the resources to be a vegetarian, then it is really the right thing to do... I have the research tools to learn how to balance my diet and I have the financial ability and the cooking skills and the health food stores all around me to be a healthy vegetarian, so I am. I don't need meat. Then again, I don't need cable television either but I do choose to have that. So though I feel like I'm doing the "right" thing for my life, I never get on anyone else's case for not making that same choice... I wouldn't sit down with you at a restaurant and lecture you for ordering a steak.
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    hmmm, it's almost ironic, when you say that getting a dog got you started on thinking about the moral issues of eating meat. now you are a vegetarian, but your dog still eats meat.
    i'm not trying to attack you (or trying to get your dog to become a vegetarian, lol). just pointing out the irony of the situation...
    my respect though for making that choice!
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    Well, biologically the dog doesn't have that choice. Dogs have to eat meat to survive; people don't.
     
    By the way, totally OT but I love that cocker spaniel in your sig![:)]
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    well, yeah, i know. just thought it was ironic, that's all...
    oh well, maybe it's just me... most people don't get my humour.[:D]
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    Even more ironic is the vegetarian woman who starts craving meat when pregnant. That one always gets me...doesn't happen to every veg woman but I sure have heard of plenty.
     
    Sometimes it just goes the other way too...where a carnivorous soul cannot smell meat cooking or they throw up, lol!
     
    Pregnancy is the time I think, where the primitive needs of your body make themselves known...they really should study cravings more. I think they are a link back to our instinctual more primal selves. The time where media, religions, and social pressure had less effect on human diet than what you "felt like" you should eat.
     
    ETA: you can throw in the cravings women get around their periods to the above as well....mine are often for sweet things, but sometimes Bacon or fried Bologna crawl into my head too! lmao
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    amen to that!
    i almost always eat what i crave. that's why i just couldnt be a vegetarian. i just can't. i'm a glutton, i admid it. maybe when i go back to europe i'll just be eating the "right" meat. if i can afford it, that is.. [&:]