NO TRESPASSING

Bradley - can you rally up enough people and support to get the board to be more clear on the new rules?  I would think that it would be in everyone's best interest to have it clearly stated since they're all going to have to live with it.  In my development no "commercial" vehicles are allowed to be parked in the driveway, so even the smaller van wouldn't be okay.  That doesn't mean it couldn't be in the garage though.

i hope so. the meeting is on nov. 2, and we just got this last night. so i think i am going to talk to a few people that i am pretty sure these rules would affect or might affect and make sure they got the message and have read the proposed rules. i think everyone has to decide for themselves whether they think this is right or not, but if they ask my opinion i will certainly tell them. i am also planning to call the board pres. tonight and voice some of my concerns. maybe they will shelf the vote until the rules can be re-written. like i said i only posted a couple of them and there is some good stuff in some of them, but the vote is supposed to be all or nothing so i am at this time going to have to vote against.

edit: the rules about the vehicles really dont affect me at all since my wife and i both drive cars. it just kind of irked me that the rule seemed pretty elitist in nature. i really wouldnt want to see a dump truck parked next door, but it seems unfair that my neighbor can park his company van in his driveway but others may not have that opportunity if their truck was a little larger.

The admonition against dog walking where Dyan is the only person actually walking a dog there smacks of someone politically important in that HOA throwing their weight around, not because there is a dog problem, but just to be throwing weight around. Some people can only feel good if they have their foot on someone's neck. And it gives me great emotional satisfaction to stand up to bullies like that, as I cannot tolerate a bully.

 
That is what it seems like to me...mainly because unless someone besides me is walking their dog thru that development,,and letting their dog go all over the grass and walkways (which I honestly see no dog dirt in that development when I walk thru) they are just throwing their weight around just to throw their weight around.  
This is NOT a gated community..and these are not expensive homes. These are town houses,,,maybe around 4 connected together,, some maybe more.  It is surrounded by 1. a street with townhouses across the street, 2. a Catholic school/church  3. another street with houses across the street and 4 a small shopping center,,seperated with a privacy fence.  
So Ron,,,wanna come and walk Bubby thru there and bully them guys???????[align=right]

I went to our HOA meeting a few years ago...we wanted to change from having a managment corporation to managing ourselves. The discussion went on for hours and we decided to not take over managment afterall. But we had a lawyer there (one of the residents friend or family) to advise us, his specialty is HOA.  He told us that to change any of the bylaws of our association we had to go to file the change or ammendment with the state of Ohio.   We were not allowed to JUST CHANGE THE RULES.    The bylaws were put into place in our HOA association by the builder of this development...he passed it on to us when he was finished building. The rules were set into place then.   We moved in knowing those rules...and I can live with them.   But to add more or reword any to suit someones fancy is not fair. I would fight that one until the end.

They only say that their trucks can't be parked there. That's not discrimination.

 
Yes, it is. This would force a small business owner to pay to park somewhere else and to have another vehicle to get back and forth to the company vehicle.
 
As for the Constitution, no HOA may exclude people of minority. So, there are constitutional limits as to what a private property, such as a gate community, may do. While you may be able to bar certain people from entering your house, you cannot tell your neighbor what kind of vehicle he or she may drive. Why stop there? Put it in writing that all residents must drive a Jag. And yes, signing an agreement to that before you move in absolves some of the liability of the HOA, though they are still unconstitutional, if this resolution comes about after you have moved there, then what recourse do you have?
 
Yes, I understand that he who has the gold rules, but that doesn't make it right. You cannot remove someone's ability to earn their living. Type of tree in the front or style of mailbox? Fine, that way the neighborhood matches.
 
That is, I agree that you must abide by HOA rules if they are not unconstitutional when you signed the agreement. But I don't see how that gives the HOA carte blanch control over how you make your money or what you drive. FWIW, a person that can afford a F-350 Crew Cab Duallie with a 6 inch lift and a diamond plate tool box is not hurting for money. I've seen some of those tricked up and worth as much as low end Porche.
 
Back on topic, Dyan may have to alter her walk if the HOA enforces this needless, IMHO, rule.
 

So Ron,,,wanna come and walk Bubby thru there and bully them guys???????

 
I'd love to. And hope they want a scrap. It's been 19 years since I had to bounce someone's head off of the ground like a basketball but I still remember how. (I was a bouncer at a club at nights for a while. Think of "Roadhouse" with a bit of NBA Final Four on the side.) Actually, though, I would be there to offer moral support and fire questions right back at them. If nothing else, you, a Great Dane, and a tall, big guy that looks like a Hell's Angel reject might at least make them approach nicely. Or, they'll just call the cops. Which is fine with me. Have the cops define exactly what is we're doing wrong and them let them feel really macho by chasing a woman, her well-mannered dog, and an aging long-haired hippie out of there. Unless I cut my hair. That could change everything.
 

Well okay Ron,,,we'll do that then.
Cuz I don't think I have the guts to go thru by myself!   I'm sure if they called the cops on me, I would stand there and cry!!! Then that would upset Bubby and my well- mannered doggie would become not so well - mannered,,,and then they WOULD have a case!!!  LOL!

Then I would have to say, "Oh yeah, I'm impressed. You made a woman cry."
 
Notice that I would not say the cop is not doing his job or that I would not comply with his orders. I also like the route of inviting a member of the press. "Here's your tax dollars at work. While gangsters steal dogs and fight them in a ring and no one wants to do any thing about, two armed police officers accost a long, up-standing member of the community for walking her dog as she has done for years, causing her to cry. An unidentified man walking with her was heard to say, "So, is that your "tough talk"? Oh, ok.""

I would hardly consider it discrimination because the rules governing the specifications of building a house make it impossible for some people to live there.  I couldn't afford to buy a house today in the town I grew up in (Ocean Beach in San Diego) but that's not discrimination - it's economics. A lot of people can't afford to move to Davis, and a lot of people can't afford a home anywhere.

Joyce