Should she put her dogs away?

    • Gold Top Dog

    Should she put her dogs away?

    My mother has us to diner every weekend. This weekend is Thanksgiving, there will be about 30 adults and 9 children in the house. Her kitchen is not big enough for 5 people to try and serve themselves, so we take turns then find somewhere to eat. The dogs are always in the way. Then when you are eating they stare at you begging for food. It does not bother me but it bothers other family members. The dogs are huge and my Grandfather is afraid of dogs to begin with. We (My aunt and I) have asked her to put the dogs in the spare room while we eat adn she wont. I think it's BS.
    She wants to do the diner, I think she should respect that her company does not want to be tripping over dogs and holding their plate for dear life cause the dog will try and take it.
     
    How can I get her to change her mind. Because if I don't, I am just going to bribe the dogs intot he room with a piece of turkey and shut the door myself. I want her to see the reason I am right.
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    The only dog that should be allowed to circulate at a party like that is a dog that WILL not be pushy or beg for food, or invade the space of others. IMO they should be put up if they cannot accept a command of "go to bed" or "Kennel" from their owner and MIND it.
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    The dogs don't listen to anything. My mother even went through training with the Germ. Shep. She never continued so the dog wont even sit on command. Thats what the problem is, they are not well behaved.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Well, IMO - she definitely should put them away... but I know how stubborn, dog-loving mothers can be!  I like your idea of sneaking them away yourself.  When Mom tries to free them, can you rally the family to support you and maybe Mom will acquiesce for an hour or so?  (can you get Grandpa to cry?)

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    [can you get Grandpa to cry?)
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    Too Funny. If it comes down to it I will personally take the dogs away. I just don't like that she thinks this is not a problem.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I would say that it is proper etiquette to put the dogs up during a dinner party if they are not respecting others' space.  Like someone mentioned, dog-mom's are often sensitive and don't recognize that their own boundaries aren't conducive with a dinner party.  I don't want to criticize her training of them, because some people really don't mind dog breath as a condiment to their dinner.  It all comes down to personal boundaries, and if you quickly analyze different people that you know who have dogs, you'll probably see a high correlation to their dogs boundaries and their own. 
    The other night I had the girls over for dinner, and my friend brought her pug over.  During dinner, my dog laid on the floor, and her dog stood up on his hind legs and begged to her the whole time that we ate.  It was driving me crazy, even though no one else seemed to mind and she was no where near me at the table.  I finally said, "yeah, we're not going to do that at my house.  It's fine at your house, but I'm not going to have people over to dinner with a dog's face 6 inches from the food, whether it's my ;plate or not."  She laughed and made him stay down the rest of the night.  Luckily, she's my best friend of 20 years and we can say things like this without offending anyone.  Later, we sat outside on the porch for some after-dinner cigarrettes and her dog couldn't come out since there's no fenced yard.  The pug sat there and whined and occasionally jumped on my screen FOREVER!  My dog continued to lay on the couch, and understood that I still love her, but she just wasn't invited out for this adventure.  After a while of being annoyed, on my next trip in, I closed the glass sliding door on her dog so that we didn't have to listen him whine.  Once the door was shut, he just sat there and watched us.  My friend with the pug laughed and ;pointed out the difference in our boundaries.  She said that it never would have dawned on her to close the door, and that she hadn't even noticed the dog whining.  But that's also the difference in our personalities, I need my space and alone time, and she likes for someone to be around all the time.  Her dogs are very well behaved in the areas that are important to her...they come when called, don't tear anything up, etc.  But from my perspective, they climb all over you without permission, whine and act out if they aren't at your side, and don't understand any sort of command that would instruct them to go entertain themselves, whether that be to go to their crates, or go lie down, or anything.  That doesn't mean that my dog and I aren't close, cause she sleeps in my bed, lays with me on the couch and goes everywhere in the car with me.  My dog also will drop a slobbery ball on your nice outfit if you're not paying attention, and that doesn't bother me at all, but some people find it absolutely abnoxious.  It just means that one thing that was important to me in my training was for a dog to know when to leave me/us alone and that includes dinner. 
    It really comes down to personal preference. Just the same as you not understanding the dogs breathing down your neck at dinner, she does not understand why you wouldn't want the dogs near you.  You probably aren't going to get her to re-train her dogs.  But in the end, people have the right to choose what they consider to be good dog etiquettee aw well as where they want to have dinner.  Some people don't like noisy restaurants, some don't like dark restaurants, and some don't like expensive restaurants.  If the dinner party location is already chosen, then the patrons have to decide if they will be able to enjoy the atmosphere or if they should not partake.  Ultimately, instead of having a problem with her choice of dog behavior, why not move the dinner party elsewhere.  She probably will either respect your decision to move and not be a host, or she will decide that she will have to have different doggie-accomodations for her guest. 
    • Gold Top Dog
    Yes, if they do not have manners, they should be put in another room. We all need manners. 
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    I too think that the should be put away.  But I can understand how hard it can be, I am struggling with this myself.  I know that Duke & Daisy don't have good enough manners to be out when company is over for dinner, but I hate locking them up, especially since they make such a racket!  Just something I have to work on.
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    My dogs are generally well behaved, and will do as I ask, but we don't have company often, and after all, Aussies are guardy.  So, to avoid problems, I just put them away so that I don't need to make them lie down/stay while some stranger "invades" their house.  (That's how they look at it.)  It's more pleasant for the guests, and the dogs (who are out in the barn sucking on their marrow bones).  But, I certainly don't care if they're all around me in the a.m. trying to beg a piece of my toast and a slurp out of my coffee cup.  In fact, I rather like it. [;)]  There's something about all those little faces in a perfect semi-circle sitting politely...
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    The dogs should definitely be put in another room. Guests shouldn't have to trip over dogs and have them begging for food. The way I look at it is that yes the dogs live there, but when you have guests over you should be considerate and try to make them comfortable.
     
    Edited to add that my biggest issue is that Gingerbread wants to snuggle guests whenever we have them over. If I see that it's bothering anyone or he starts getting bratty at all, I put him on a leash so that I can make him behave and stay by me.