What makes dogs in Manhattan so well behaved?

    • Gold Top Dog
    NYC is all about sharing your space and resources with others, and there are expectations placed on your behavior whenever you share space. Having an unruly dog in NYC is just too huge an imposition on others, and people will absolutely let you know that you are out of line.

     
    Deb, So true.  The fact is that you cannot hide your sins, so to speak.  If you have a dangerous/unruly dog, it won't be long before you are evicted from your apartment.  Getting evicted because of your dog will make it very difficult to get into another building that allows dogs, and so on..  Oh and the public scrutiny!  My favorite.  Not only will people let you know that you're a nuisance, they will also let you know that they don't like the type of harness you use, or that your poop bags are not bio-degradable, etc. 


    No doubt!
    I heard the fine for not picking up poop in the city is $450!!!!

     
    Holey Moley!!! Is it really????  I had no idea.  I can picture the sign in my head, I've just never paid attention to the amount.  I should get "credit" for picking other peoples poop up then.  Oh and Stella - you should call out the poop-leaver in the park.  What I usually do is just offer them a poop bag and nicely say "did you run out of bags?  I have plenty, here you go".  I never let people get away with that sh*t!  (sorry, couldn't resist)
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    ORIGINAL: labcrab

     Oh and Stella - you should call out the poop-leaver in the park.  What I usually do is just offer them a poop bag and nicely say "did you run out of bags?  I have plenty, here you go".  I never let people get away with that sh*t!  (sorry, couldn't resist)


    Next time I'm totally going to -- interrupting cell phone conversation be damned! [:D]
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    I am pulling up this thread even though it's a few days old because it's SO TRUE!   I'm in Toronto and I'm so grateful that I'm raising my dog in the city.   I think it's made the socialization process much easier, partially because I need to have a well-socialized dog if I want to avoid being miserable, having a miserable dog and making many others miserable at the same time.  We're very lucky here because there is such a variety of environments for dogs - the city, the (huge!) parks and forests, the beach.  It is strange to hear people talking about how 'cruel' it is to keep dogs in the city; I'll take hundreds of acres to run in and dozens of dogs to run with over a backyard.   And we need to take advantage of these resources, otherwise our dogs would go crazy - I can't just let her out in a yard and forget about it, I need to actively do something with her, whether it's walking around the city or going hiking or playing in the dog park.   I think that leads to better behaviour while improving our relationship and also makes me observe her more carefully.

    Sometimes we go to a dog park in the suburbs when we visit my in-laws and it's a completely different experience.   Most of the time, it's as if the dogs don't know how to play with each other and just stand around.  Sometimes we also visit the PetSmart out there and that's the one place Louise can't deal with - she's fine in the small petshops and bookstores and banks in the city, but box stores freak her out.  

    Another thing about living in the city with a dog is that it's such a yuppie thing to forego having children and getting a dog instead and becoming SO into your dog.  A lot of people in my neighbourhood are like that (maybe I am too) and it's usually very sweet and fun to see, but some people do get overbearing with the How To Be The Best Dog Owner Ever stuff.   One of the huge benefits to this, however, is that yuppies with dogs and no kids have  a lot of money to spend on their dogs, so we get really great shops with wonderful food and other products.   On my street, there are 6 dog bakeries/holistic pet stores, a dog training school, 3 veterinary practices,  and 3 dog spas/daycares within a 10 minute walk of my apartment.  A short streetcar ride away is a physical therapy centre for dogs that has these neat swimming pools.

    My favourite thing in the world is taking Louise for late night walks down the boardwalk and meeting up with people and dogs we know who happen to be out at 11pm too.   Having that kind of constant community is lovely and pretty much nothing makes me happier than seeing Louise wrestle with her Schnauzer friend, say hello to her sheltie friends and their awesome owners, then 2 minutes later meeting her German Shepherd friend and racing around the beach like a rocket and going home exhausted and happy.  This is especially exciting for me because Louise is not a naturally confident puppy at all; she started out quite shy and timid, but the opportunities to develop self-assurance have been constant and she has transformed completely into an awesome, well-adjusted dog who gets along very well with almost all other dogs and can deal with new situations.   I imagine that this would have been much harder to achieve living elsewhere.

    None of this is because people in the city are better dog owners - it's just that the conditions of many cities make it easier and more imperative for many owners to raise dogs well.
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    I am pulling up this thread even though it's a few days old because it's SO TRUE! I'm in Toronto and I'm so grateful that I'm raising my dog in the city. I think it's made the socialization process much easier, partially because I need to have a well-socialized dog if I want to avoid being miserable, having a miserable dog and making many others miserable at the same time. We're very lucky here because there is such a variety of environments for dogs - the city, the (huge!) parks and forests, the beach. It is strange to hear people talking about how 'cruel' it is to keep dogs in the city; I'll take hundreds of acres to run in and dozens of dogs to run with over a backyard. And we need to take advantage of these resources, otherwise our dogs would go crazy - I can't just let her out in a yard and forget about it, I need to actively do something with her, whether it's walking around the city or going hiking or playing in the dog park. I think that leads to better behaviour while improving our relationship and also makes me observe her more carefully.

    Sometimes we go to a dog park in the suburbs when we visit my in-laws and it's a completely different experience. Most of the time, it's as if the dogs don't know how to play with each other and just stand around. Sometimes we also visit the PetSmart out there and that's the one place Louise can't deal with - she's fine in the small petshops and bookstores and banks in the city, but box stores freak her out.

    Another thing about living in the city with a dog is that it's such a yuppie thing to forego having children and getting a dog instead and becoming SO into your dog. A lot of people in my neighbourhood are like that (maybe I am too) and it's usually very sweet and fun to see, but some people do get overbearing with the How To Be The Best Dog Owner Ever stuff. One of the huge benefits to this, however, is that yuppies with dogs and no kids have a lot of money to spend on their dogs, so we get really great shops with wonderful food and other products. On my street, there are 6 dog bakeries/holistic pet stores, a dog training school, 3 veterinary practices, and 3 dog spas/daycares within a 10 minute walk of my apartment. A short streetcar ride away is a physical therapy centre for dogs that has these neat swimming pools.

    My favourite thing in the world is taking Louise for late night walks down the boardwalk and meeting up with people and dogs we know who happen to be out at 11pm too. Having that kind of constant community is lovely and pretty much nothing makes me happier than seeing Louise wrestle with her Schnauzer friend, say hello to her sheltie friends and their awesome owners, then 2 minutes later meeting her German Shepherd friend and racing around the beach like a rocket and going home exhausted and happy. This is especially exciting for me because Louise is not a naturally confident puppy at all; she started out quite shy and timid, but the opportunities to develop self-assurance have been constant and she has transformed completely into an awesome, well-adjusted dog who gets along very well with almost all other dogs and can deal with new situations. I imagine that this would have been much harder to achieve living elsewhere.

    None of this is because people in the city are better dog owners - it's just that the conditions of many cities make it easier and more imperative for many owners to raise dogs well.

     
    inne- VERY well put!!  I agree 100% and am glad your pup has been able to be socialized in a city environment [:D
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    Ok, you city people are making me seriously jealous!!!!!! I've been trying to find a good doggie daycare in my area for a couple weeks now and have finally managed to find two possibilities, and they charge an arm and a leg!!!!!! What I wouldn't give to be able to search the yellow pages and come up with ten different possibilities.