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Posted : 8/15/2006 3:04:10 PM

I have never seen a pit bull pup in a pet store. Actually, I think it's insane selling ANY pups at pet stores. They are mostly poorly bred and many end up with temperment issues. Add bad genetics to the fact that they are kept in tiny cages with God-knows-what kind of interactions with humans, and you can have some problems. In addition, the majority of people who buy at a petstore are impulse buyers who have no idea what they are getting into, and often even less about puppy/dog behavior and care.

I would hate to see pits in a pet store (although I doubt that's what it is) because the actions of individual pit bull owners affect me as the owner of a bully mix. An uninformed, ignorant, or ill-intentioned impulse buyer is hardly the type of owner I want to have a pit. We have enough idiot owners as it is.

John Doe

Posted : 8/15/2006 3:08:48 PM

ORIGINAL: amstaffy

I totally AGREE, if in fact this is an APBT and not a Bull Terrier

Are you suggesting that it is more important than say a Rotty, GSD etc etc? Why does it being an APBT make it any different to any other breed. I've scene some major damage done to a child from a JRT.

amstaffy

Posted : 8/15/2006 3:16:02 PM

yes, it was a pittie -- I do know my pits, the official name being the American Staffordshire Pit Bullterrier)

I'd have to disagree....you're not as familiar as you think. There is an American Pit Bull Terrier(UKC & ADBA rgistered or un-registered bred on the streets) and a totally different breed American Staffordshire Terrier(AKC registered)

amstaffy

Posted : 8/15/2006 3:19:26 PM

Are you suggesting that it is more important than say a Rotty, GSD etc etc? Why does it being an APBT make it any different to any other breed. I've scene some major damage done to a child from a JRT.

I'm suggesting that responsible breeders screen their potential owners, this breed has gone down the hopper the past 10 years because of people who are too eager to cash in on popularity. It doesn't matter what breed of dog that is being sold but this one in particular comes with added responsibility by the new owner and they should be prepared for this along with a rotti, dobe, etc

meilani

Posted : 8/15/2006 3:29:56 PM

ORIGINAL: peter_89

Gosh, I'm not used to using a forum this active...
The point I was making is that the typical person walking through a pet store will buy based on who the cutest puppy is. If they just purchase the Bullterrier (and yes, it was a pittie -- I do know my pits, the official name being the American Staffordshire Pit Bullterrier) with another pet in the house it could be a nightmare. I am fully aware that they are not human aggressive but even the rescue organizations warn you against placing a pittie with another animal in the house. If they don't bother to socialize it properly because they don't know to then it could be even worse. If an English Mastiff is not socialized enough then they can be a nightmare if placed in the wrong situation.
Please people, I do, and I believe I am likely not alone, become tired of the crowd stating that Pit Bulls are absolutely perfectly big sweethearts to every creature they come across when even the pittie rescue orgs warn people never to trust one not to fight. I do not believe the media myths either, locking jaws et cetera, I know it is all garbage, but like every other issue out there both sides are speaking in generalizations. I would happily adopt a pittie myself, keeping in mind, however, that they mustn't be in dog parks or live with other animals in your home.

I can dig what you're saying but I am against the sale of *all* breeds in pet stores so if I were going to speak to the management, I am going to speak for all breeds not just one. Besides that, what's management going to do? They're out to make a sale. If someone wants to pay $1000 for an irresponsibly bred Pit Bull do you think they're going to let something like a conscious stop them? The only way places like that listen is when you hit them in the pocketbook and that's by educating the buyer. And that's if they want to be educated.

As far as Pitbulls not going to dog parks or living with other dogs, that's not necessarily a 100% "rule". There's quite a few people who've taken their Pits to dog parks or live in a multi-dog house(and some of them post on this board). It depends on the individual dog and how they are raised and socialized.

sillysally

Posted : 8/15/2006 3:33:47 PM

ORIGINAL: peter_89

Gosh, I'm not used to using a forum this active...
The point I was making is that the typical person walking through a pet store will buy based on who the cutest puppy is. If they just purchase the Bullterrier (and yes, it was a pittie -- I do know my pits, the official name being the American Staffordshire Pit Bullterrier) with another pet in the house it could be a nightmare. I am fully aware that they are not human aggressive but even the rescue organizations warn you against placing a pittie with another animal in the house. If they don't bother to socialize it properly because they don't know to then it could be even worse. If an English Mastiff is not socialized enough then they can be a nightmare if placed in the wrong situation.
Please people, I do, and I believe I am likely not alone, become tired of the crowd stating that Pit Bulls are absolutely perfectly big sweethearts to every creature they come across when even the pittie rescue orgs warn people never to trust one not to fight. I do not believe the media myths either, locking jaws et cetera, I know it is all garbage, but like every other issue out there both sides are speaking in generalizations. I would happily adopt a pittie myself, keeping in mind, however, that they mustn't be in dog parks or live with other animals in your home.

There is no such thing as an American Staffordshire Pit Bullterrier. [

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amstaffy

Posted : 8/15/2006 3:42:33 PM

I would happily adopt a pittie myself, keeping in mind, however, that they mustn't be in dog parks or live with other animals in your home.

Sorry I missed that point in your post...let me share some of mine with you who do live with other dogs...

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Posted : 8/15/2006 3:56:27 PM

Extremely dangerous? Here is my vicious American Pit Bull Terrier. I AM one of those people who praise pit bulls to high heaven, I AM one of those people who have faith in a breed that humans have used and abused and genetically manipulated to their benefit. I AM one of those people who responsilby advocate the breed with a healthy idea of their capability and respect them all the more for it.

hlb118

Posted : 8/15/2006 4:39:28 PM

That nose you see, is the nose of that American Pitbull Terrier in the other picture. Never once did he harm the adult rats, or the 15 babies.

hlb118

Posted : 8/15/2006 4:49:31 PM

I forgot one...

The white and brown dog is a catahoula/pitbull cross. Purposely bred to hunt wild pig. He lives with a cat, and loves other dogs. Oh yeah, and he's 5 years old. He's standing next to Buck, the pitbull from the other post.

John Doe

Posted : 8/15/2006 5:39:25 PM

ORIGINAL: amstaffy

I'm suggesting that responsible breeders screen their potential owners, this breed has gone down the hopper the past 10 years because of people who are too eager to cash in on popularity. It doesn't matter what breed of dog that is being sold but this one in particular comes with added responsibility by the new owner and they should be prepared for this along with a rotti, dobe, etc

I wasn't having a go amstaffy, its just the way it read it sounded like you where saying that they where more dangerous than any other breed, given that you own Amstaffs I found this strange, I just wanted to clarify what you where saying.

agilebasenji

Posted : 8/15/2006 6:08:56 PM

Well thank goodness the puppy is a pitt not a bull terrier. Keep in mind it was a bull terrier (not pit or Staffie) that caused all the problems with the royal dog owners (Princess Anne, I believe) in England.

Seriously though, I'm not sure management would care. If they are a petstore and selling puppies, obviously they're in it for the $$$. [:'(]

Erica

Posted : 8/15/2006 10:00:56 PM

ANY breed can become dangerous. I work with dogs every day, and have NEVER been bitten by a pit (mouthed in play, yes, but never an intentional bite). I have been bitten by a cocker spanial (had to get stiches for that one), labs (many labs), JRT, chihuahua's, boxers, sheps, and even the wonderful golden retrievers (almost needed stiches), etc.
point being - ANY breed can cause problems. It all depends on how the dog is raised. I feel that it is the individual dog that needs to be evaluated before going home with other animals or children, not the breed. Some are great, some aren't. It all depends on the DOG.

Erica

Posted : 8/15/2006 10:12:45 PM

And it is highly unlikly that the store put bull terrier on the card, unless it knew for sure. Many breeds look the same as puppies. Greyhound puppies look like lab shep mixes, but they are really greyhouds.

This is a Bull Terrier pup. He LOOKS like other breeds, but he is not. He is 100% bull terrier.

amstaffy

Posted : 8/15/2006 10:34:18 PM

Romal,
No harm..I never mind clarifying anything I write. Having been owned by the breed so amny years and seeing exactly what type of owners they attract educates you real fast what to look for and questions to ask when trying to find the right homes for the breed

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