Accents

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    espencer
    I mean why would i start talking about cutting a "ship's" hair??????? that just does not make any sense!!!!


    Part of the problem here is that in the U.S. people talk about shearing/shaving a sheep's wool/coat, not cutting a sheep's hair.  That gives problems with three of the four words in the phrase "cut a ship's hair".  If people heard the phrase "shear a ship's wool", they would probably figure out that "ship" was "sheep".
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    I am from Trinidad so I still have a bit of a West Indian thing going. I love love love southern accents. The first time I heard a woman from Tennesse talk I was in love with that singing way of speaking. I think it's an awesome accent and it's a tragedy that people feel the need or are pressured to ditch their accents for some mundane not-from-nowhere non-accent.

    Paula
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    it's a tragedy that people feel the need or are pressured to ditch their accents for some mundane not-from-nowhere non-accent.


    i agree 100%. [:)]

    our differences are what makes life interesting.
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    Snownose - I love the irish accent.....the biggest thing that hit me when I moved to the south was , "Ya all"....where I come from we say " You guys".......and for the longest time I tried to figure out what"Over yonder" meant........but, I get it now


    i have heard many out of state folks get confused over "Fixin" ... "I'm fixin to mow the lawn" .. what? or... as i said to a british friend "I'm going to fix dinner now." he said why, is it broken? [:'(] butt head..
    but, after that i TRY not to say "fixin" as much.. or use "fix" in the context of preparing meals.... but .. hey.. i am lazy... sometimes i just dont care lol

    by the way, the one southern accent i love most is Mike Nesmith's... from the Monkees, yes. the one with the hat. i dont know what part of Texas he is from, but .... gosh i sure do love to hear him speak.. he lives in NM now though, but doesnt seem to have had much of an effect on him.... so .. i DO like some southern accents..

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    I love language and I love accents. I did my undergrad at the University of Pittsburgh - or Picksburgh as we say.  My rendition of a Picksburgh accent.

    "Hey youns guys, let's go daaaan taaan, get the car wooorshed, pick up a coupla aaahrns and maybe stop at the gian iggle."

    Translation,

    "Hey you guys, let's go down town, get the car washed, pick up a couple of Iron City beers and maybe stop at teh Giant Eagle (grocery store)."

    When I was in elementary school in Trinidad, I read "To Kill a Mockingbird" (Harper Lee) and thought "oncet" was two syllables (one-cet).  I was tickled to death the first time someone said "oncet" because I'd never actually heard it spoken. It's "onest" (and "twicet".  Very cool.


    Paula
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    Bradley, agreed.
     
    Here's one of my favorite accents LOL! this version or the Eddie one...I like them both!
     
     

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    ORIGINAL: paulaedwina

    I am from Trinidad so I still have a bit of a West Indian thing going. I love love love southern accents.
    Paula


     
    Paula, I heard you talking to your dogs on the video you posted, and I just love your voice and accent.  It has such a lilting, musical, happy sound. [:D]
     
    Joyce
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    Joyce, you are dead on right.  MIL always tacked that R on the end of stuff....I was Glendar for years and years....anything that ends in the letter A seems to get the R tacked on the end.
     
    My FIL, on the other hand, also grew up in Boston, and while he had the distinct accent, he also sounded extremely cultured and educated when he spoke.  Wonder if it was growing up in different parts of the city?
     
    I'm a Yankee, and when I lived in the south I was often a DAMNED Yankee.  I did a lot of voice work for a couple agencies when I lived in the South because I didn't have the southern drawl and they needed a more "nuetral" voice for the National and Regional commercials.  Yet my family STILL thinks I have a pronounced Southern accent.  And, actually, now that I'm living in MI again, where I grew up, folks will often ask me where I'm from.  I find that a tiny bit of a drawl slips in when I'm fatigued, mostly.  I have NO issue with having a southern accent...I think it's lovely....but I tend to pick up accents without trying so it's wierd when I'm speaking like a Michigander and all of a sudden sound "southern"...or at least to them!
     
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    ORIGINAL: fuzzy_dogs_mom

    ORIGINAL: paulaedwina

    I am from Trinidad so I still have a bit of a West Indian thing going. I love love love southern accents.
    Paula



    Paula, I heard you talking to your dogs on the video you posted, and I just love your voice and accent.  It has such a lilting, musical, happy sound. [:D]
     
    Joyce


    LOL Joyce, that's because we end our sentences on a higher note than we started! Thanks.

    Paula
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    Dumdog- I'm not gonna lie about it- i say fixin' all the time. "i'm fixin' to get something to eat" lol its quite silly
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    I can't say that I have ever came across an accent that I don't like.  I have a distictly native canadian accent when I'm with my mom's side of the family, or even with natives around here.  Most of the time my accent is pretty neutral though having grown up in the afore mentioned Central Canada.  BF works in a call center and they make a game of figuring out which state their customers are calling from by their accents and expressions.
     
    I find that I pick up accents quickly.  Not intentionally at all, but I tend to start speaking with a Wisconsin accent when friends of mine come up from there.  I have a friend with a thick Scottish accent and when I talk to him, I find myself imitating him.  He finds it funny.  And I feel stupid cause I can't seem to help it.
     
    We all get into the game of doing the Newfie talk when we get partying.  Lots of my friends are Newfs and I'm an honorary Newf.  Kissed the Cod and did the Screech and everything. 
     
    Most  of the time its all good, but I have one friend that stutters pretty bad.  I pick that up too.  Then I feel like crap cause I have to stop talking to him or he'll feel I'm making fun of him.  I'm totally not.
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    ORIGINAL: DumDog
     i DO like some southern accents..


    ORIGINAL: DumDog
    i cant stand the southern drawl


    I think I will just sit back now and watch you debate yourself.  [sm=giantpopcorn.gif]
     
    ETA:  Please, no name calling though.  [:D]
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    I do the adaptive thing too. It kind of creeps me out. I hope people don't notice, but honestly I can barely help myself. Sometimes I will do it on purpose, however - it's a survival thing when you live in the country, sometimes. Sure death to any budding relationship in many small towns is those five little words: "You're not from around here?"

    I took language in college and did some dialect coaching. I adore dialects. I have little interest in US accents but still am pretty good at picking out a number of regions and subregions. Native Californians do have an accent, by the way - it's just really hard to find a native nowadays. I can id several UK accents down to regions, and Scottish accents down to a 50 mile radius, because I've been exposed to more Scots than any of the other UK accents for some reason.

    I can pinpoint Canadians within a few states, and I can spot a Manitoban or Nova Scotia resident at 200 paces.

    I can ID two or three "'Stralian" accents, and at least two Kiwi, not counting First and immigrants.

    I can usually spot non-native speakers of English and guess their native language (including Scots Highlanders and a few American First Peoples). I'm not that good at the East Asian languages - beyond guessing at Japanese versus Korean versus Viet, Filipino, Islander, etc I'm a bit at sea. I only know that from my time in San Francisco.

    I've been followed around by Scots my whole life, oddly. First, my grandparents on one side are Scottish immigrants and my father had just a teeny hair of their accent - the way the "d", "t", "L", "n" and a few other letters are pronounced. For a long time I thought I got this odd lispy way of speaking from my mostly Latina friends, but I never noticed that they actually did it! Then I started studying Scots dialects formally and realized where it came from.

    So then my best friend in school's father was Scottish. A little later, we started going to a new church, and the pastor was Scottish! This was in SFO - not exactly a stronghold for Scottish culture, so, kind of weird.

    After that, one of my friends in college was from Nova Scotia. She was heavily involved in the whole clan thing, heritage, etc. She had an accent but it wasn't Scottish as you can imagine!

    Then I got involved with sheepdogging and now I've got one friend and two acquaintances from Scotland. To me their respective accents sound very different. Alisdair says "chyune" instead of "tune" and uses many of the stereotypical Scots phrases but his accent is flatter than you'd think. He is a native Gaelic speaker and it strongly influences his accent.

    Tommy has a rather flat accent and uses almost no Scots anymore, but a peculiar turn of his vowels and consonants gives the clue as to his origin if you know what you are listening for.

    And Jack has the very lyrical accent that you'd expect but switches freely between "Scots" type intonation of those key letters, and what you'd hear in the UK and what our own American dialects are mostly based upon.

    Jack also freely switches between Scots, Northern English, and Americanisms. Sometimes he'll say, "I'm going now." (American), and sometimes, "I'll be going then," and sometimes, "I'll be gaeing t'noo."

    It drives me crazy now to hear people talk about the "Southern accent" or worse, "drawl." Is there a "northern accent"? Well, southerners talk about that sometimes but it's chalked up to yet another stupid southern thing. To me, someone from the Appalacian region of NC talks profoundly differently than someone from this area, south of Richmond, VA.

    The accent around here is a strange one and would be an interesting subject for study. Someone's probably done it, I just haven't looked it up. Anyway, this "mawhnin'" we just took our "cawh to the gerridge doon in Roxberreh t'see aboot the breks." It's not a "drawled" accent - in fact it's so clipped I can barely understand it with my bad hearing. Coastal accents tend to be similar all down to FL, then in FL you go back to a very softened accent again, similar to what you'd hear in LA.

    The Appalacian accents have strong Gaelic and West of England influences (think pirate talk) on them. "Fix" and "sick" are very good English, no matter how people from Britain like to turn their noses up at it. So is "yonder" - it's the third piece in the locational triad, "here, there, yonder" - almost all languages have these or more, but we've gotten stuck with only here and there and no way to say, "not close to here." Ditto "Mine" "Your-en" "Their-en" and "His-en", a leftover from the days when we had analogous possesive singular. There was no "her-en" by the way, hissen is non-gender-specific.

    There's a ton of books that have been written on this - some are better than others. My favorite is called "The Mother Tongue" can't remember the author, sorry. Should be in the library, it was well recieved when it came out.
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    If it's the "The Mother Tongue" I am thinking of, it's by Bill Bryson. I love him, his books are educational and hilarious. If you haven't, Becca, read "Notes From A Small Island". [:)]
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    ORIGINAL: probe1957

    ORIGINAL: DumDog
     i DO like some southern accents..


    ORIGINAL: DumDog
    i cant stand the southern drawl


    I think I will just sit back now and watch you debate yourself.  [sm=giantpopcorn.gif]

    ETA:  Please, no name calling though.  [:D]


    what ever, i said i like SOME.... for the most part i CANT stand them because its all the same around here. it is noticeable when someone from another southern state is here because there is a difference.. some are more pleasant to listen to than others.
    Tanya Tucker for instance.... hate her....
    Loretta Lynne ... her accent makes me laugh....
    Bill Clinton... i would prefer the sound of nails on chalk board...
    Johnny Cash... not so bad...