A brand-new Harry Potter theory

ORIGINAL: Chuffy



How do you guys think that Harry will vanquish the dark lord?  Will he really kill him?  How will he do it?  I dont think he has it in him to do an unforgiveable curse.  And how on earth is he going to get all those horcruxes when he wasn't exactly instrumental in finding or retrieving the locket?

 
I have no idea. [sm=asking03.gif] But here is what I am thinking... I wonder if both Harry and Voldemort will both die at once...I keep thinking about the prophecy...
I don't think Hermione or Ron will die because they have crushes on each other and I think that they will end up together as a couple...[]
 
This is a great thread! I love hearing what everyone thinks and everyone keeps reminding me of snippets I've forgotten!

I'm just hoping that, at the end of the book, there is a flash forward to show the characters (the ones that live) later in life.  I think that would be a very nice way to wrap it all up.
Although I am very excited to read this book I am also sad and I think I'll read very slowly, if I can.  Do you think that JKR will create another world for us to visit when this one is done?

However -- everyone keeps forgetting the portraits of the old headmasters -- why won't Dumbledore be in one? And he DID listen to them upon occasion.

 
He DID pop up in one. At the very end, Harry went to Dumbledore's (now McGonagall's) office, and there was just a tiny blurb about Dumbledore snoozing in a picture frame (I think it was ut in there to show us that he's definitely dead). I thought it was terribly strange that neither of them were at all surprised or excited by that, but maybe they didn't notice.
 
Now..did we find out in the 6th book that Kreacher has the horcrux, or that's something JK told us afterwards, or that's a guess? I don't remember knowing that, so I'm wondering...

I keep thinking about the prophecy...

 
Dumbledore said repeatedly that the prophecy really doesn't matter. All that matters is that Voldemort "marked Harry as his equal", because Voldemort thought the prophecy mattered. He also said that it's not some master plan that Harry has to kill Voldemort or vice versa, but that neither will LET the other live. Harry can't let Voldemort live because he killed his parents. Voldemort can't let Harry live because he gave Harry power over him. One of them has to kill the other for their own reasons, not because of the prophecy, but even the prophecy doesn't say that BOTH have to die. "Neither can live while the other survives."

The Horcrux found at the end of book 6 was a fake. The real one was taken by RAB...I have seen pretty conclusive proof that RAB is Regulus Black, Sirius' younger brother. At the beginning of book 5, when everyone was cleaning up Grimmauld Place, specific mention is made of Kreacher taking a "heavy locket" that someone (I forget who) attempts to throw away. In book 6, when Harry is having a private lesson with Dumbledore, they visit a memory in which Tom Riddle (Voldemort) is shown a "heavy locket" that was once Salazar Slytherin's and which Voldy then stole from the woman who showed it to him, believing it to be rightfully his. That's sort of true, his mother sold the locket when she was pregnant with him and desperately broke. I think it's a very safe guess that that locket was the original Horcrux.

 I remember the whole Slytherin's locket thing, and I agree that it's probably the horcrux, I just didn't remember Kreacher having a locket. Looks like I need to read the fifth again. Wonder if I can do that before tomorrow night... [] 

ORIGINAL: chelsea_b

I keep thinking about the prophecy...

Dumbledore said repeatedly that the prophecy really doesn't matter. All that matters is that Voldemort "marked Harry as his equal", because Voldemort thought the prophecy mattered. He also said that it's not some master plan that Harry has to kill Voldemort or vice versa, but that neither will LET the other live. Harry can't let Voldemort live because he killed his parents. Voldemort can't let Harry live because he gave Harry power over him. One of them has to kill the other for their own reasons, not because of the prophecy, but even the prophecy doesn't say that BOTH have to die. "Neither can live while the other survives."

 
I understand that. I just think that maybe both Harry and Voldemort will die.

I take it no one's reading the NYT's review of the new book? LOL...I just did...interesting. don't worry I won't say anything. Highest respect for fans who want to wait and see and read themselves.

Maybe this is just the jaded legal secretary in me -- but JK Rowling has already signed a deal with Universal -- in 2009 they are going to turn part of what is now Universal into Hogwarts and the Forbidden Forest. 
 
Now... I just can NOT imagine that deal would be worth diddly if she kills off Harry.  That just doesn't make sense and I would think it would turn Universal's investment into crap before they even start building it.  If you de-value a thing like that before it's even begun she would be SO sued it wouldn't be funny. 
 
Like I said, I'm jaded -- but all this stuff about her bereavement over the end of the books, la la la -- this has just made TOO much money to end it (two books behind in the movies -- and who would even GO to the next movie if they knew Harry died at the end??? NOT many folks -- die-hard fans maybe but not the average joe). 
 
But in my cynicism -- I honestly have to think that there's no way she'd put a period at the end of the 'sentence' that is Harry with so much future hanging in the balance.  I think that would essentially be financial suicide. 
 
I also think it sends completely the wrong message -- her whole deal with this was to show this boy working his way thru grief and the difficult things you have to do to grow as a person and yet stay 'true' to the you in your heart. 
 
But don't forget -- this IS a youth series -- and I think sending the message to kids that it doesn't matter how 'great' you are, if you come against the powers of evil you're gonna die, cos if Harry couldn't make it thru why try???  I really think this woman is far more the 'teacher' all the way into her soul than that. 
 
I think most of the hype over who is gonna die -- I think it's all just timed to make money for the book and movie.  Cynic that I am. 
 
But I do love matching wits and seeing who 'sees it' as I do.  Thanks Kate!

I think that would essentially be financial suicide.

 
She's the richest woman (person?) in Britain. I doubt if she's terribly worried about money at this point. But I agree that Harry won't die. Just not for the same reasons. []

Wow, I love reading everyone's predictions.  Unfortunately, I can't really add my own in since I can barely remember the books.  I only read them once each and would reread my favorite chapters.  Anyone know of a good site (that doesn't have any spoilers!) that can sum up the important parts of the books?  I've forgotton all about the book coming out in two days, so I haven't even opened one of those books since the last one came out!  I feel like an anti-fan- I haven't even seen the latest movie either!
Anyways, keep up with the great predictions.  [sm=wink2.gif]

Callie - basically, I agree with you. If NOTHING else, I think killing off their hero would be a nasty way to repay the people who made her rich already...even disregarding any money she might make in the future.

I am ABSOLUTELY SURE that Harry lives. But then, I also think that Sirius isn't dead LMAO.

Did JK specifically say Sirius was not coming back (like Dumbledore)?

No. And there are clues in both the movie and the book of Order of the Phoenix that point towards him not really being dead.

One potential ending I can see is for Harry to figure out that Sirius is not dead, but trapped behind the veil. He can't figure out how to get Sirius back, so instead walks through the veil to join him in whatever place is on the other side. Harry wouldn't be dead, but it wouldn't be a "happily ever after" ending either.

Another ending I have thought of is that Harry kills Voldy, but in the split second before Voldy dies, he performs some spell which renders Harry powerless. Harry can live on, but as a Muggle. Doing that would probably prevent anyone else from ever writing a book about what Harry does next. Who wants to read about a Muggle? lol.

OK, new theory LOL.

Something REALLY important happened between Lupin and Lily. I read an interview with JKR in which she said she was shocked after watching Prisoner of Azkaban because there are a few clues that she never intended to be in the movie....Alphonso Cuaron just happened to do things in ways that turned out to be hints at what was to come, and she is sure that after book 7 she is going to be accused of having the clues put in on purpose. There is a scene with Harry and Lupin on the bridge, they are talking about Lily and Lupin says "I knew her. Oh yes I knew Lily. She was there for me at a time no one else was. Not only was she an incredible witch, but she was an uncommonly kind one."

That scene does NOT happen in the book. Lupin never says those things in the book.