Fur and eating meat?

I'm an ovo-lacto vegetarian (no meat, chicken or fish, but yes milk, eggs and cheese, though I buy only free range organic of those items). I do wear leather BUT I don't buy it new. I buy almost all my clothes and shoes second-hand. I know it's a fine distinction, but I feel like rather than giving an industry I don't agree with a reason to make more products, I'm simply recycling products that people have already cast off. I don't wear fur, used or new, because it just think it is icky and unnecessary unless you live a lot closer to the arctic circle than I do.

My pets however, eat species-approrpriate diets, and those include meat.

Good question. 

I have 2 pairs of leather shoes and a pair of leather gloves.  My coats are micro fiber.  That's about it as far as animal clothing goes.

I eat meat.  Love meat.  I guess I could go vegitarian, but never vegan.  I have a hard time believing people who tell me that the human body isn't designed to eat meat.  The basis of western society and all the social rules takes its roots in hunting and gathering.  The earliest humans didn't eat anything, but meat.  They didn't farm and in the winter nothing grows.

The earliest humans didn't eat anything, but meat. They didn't farm and in the winter nothing grows.

That depends on where you live. There are many parts of the earth that are temperate year round. The Indian civilazation has a tradition of vegetarianism going back thousands of years. Buddhist monks and nuns in most parts of the world (Tibet and Mongolia are exceptions because the climate there is as you describe--very harsh and cold much of the time) also do not eat meat unless it is offered to them by a lay-person, but the animal was not specifically killed for the monk. The idea is that you don't turn it down if the deed has already been done, but it shouldn't be done just to give meat to a monk or nun.

Also, if eary societies were hunter/gatherer, that includes vegetable matter in addition to meat--that's the gathering part. There are very few traditional cultures today who's diets consist of mostly meat. The Inuit (eskimos) for obvious reasons and other cultures that live close to the arctic circle. But not many. Most traditional cultures are mainly plant-based with supplementation of meat when available. Plants don't run away--animals do.

Lordy...already back to this lol...
 
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Firestorm...would it bother you to have this moved to NDR as it is not a dog related topic?

Put this wherever you wish.  I am just looking to see other people's points of view...not looking for a bonfire, lol.
 
I personally do eat meat, do own leather coats, shoes, and I even have a coat with real fox fur on it.  But this is me.
I have leather saddles and bridles for my horse.

I wear leather and I eat meat.  I can barely go a day w/o eating meat (if I don't eat it once/day I feel sick).  I don't like most veggies so I would make a horrible vegitarian & vegan (I lovelovelove eggs and cheese).  I can live without wearing leather, but I definately can't live w/o meat.  If I could afford the organic foods I would buy them, but I can't.

We only eat chicken, no red meat, for health purposes. And that's only a few times a week. We do have leather items, but no fur.

I eat meat.  I eat chickena nd fish because they are good for me, but I prefer red meat.  I would make a great vegetarian if I could eat only cheese all day but I don't think that would be a balanced diet.  Veggies are ok, I eat them because I should, not because I enjoy them.  I could ever go vegan.
 
I don't seek out leather products, but I think my purse is leather.  My mom has some type of fur jacket she bought in the 1960's that my sisters and I all took turns wearing to formal dances.  Now that I look back though, I don't think I would wear it again.  Not for public political reasons, just because it felt weird wearing it.

I eat a vegan diet.

I have leather shoes, a wool coat, and some wool blend sweaters. I also have a cashmere sweater. I either had them before I was vegetarian, or they were given to me second hand. I make a similar distinction to Houndlove, and won't contribute to the industry, but will wear certain animal-based clothing.  I won't wear furs, though, because that grossed me out, even as a child. I'm not entirely sure why....

My dogs eat raw. I purchase and prepare meat every week, for them. I can't justify forcing my own beliefs on another being, especially to it's detriment.

Love meat...love it. Game or tame...doesn't matter. If I had someone to go with me and show me how to do it safely, I'd catch my own []
 
Our car has leather seats....I have bought leather shoes and leashes...coats...gloves...lemme think...headband....keychain bauble....eyeglass case...and I'm sure there's more I am missing.
 
I like veggies...broccoli....carrots....etc they are a side..not a meal. My kids both enjoy meat (my daughter would be a carnivore if I let her)...we eat mostly chicken, fish, ground beef, the occasional stew or steak. My FIL runs a herd of beefies and we get all our red meat from him. Seldom eat pork via roasts or chops, but LOVE bacon and ham. Turkey as lunch meat or other is great too.
 
My kids know about meat and where it comes from, that the animals are killed and what the different parts are used for outside of food. My daughter will often gleefully ask what animal she is eating, lol. She's seen a buck and ducks both after being shot with bow or gun...she's yet to try either, tho as it wasn't ready/processed when we were there. I enclosed a little lesson about the animals themselves...how they live, what they eat, what eats them, breeding cycles etc. She also knows what a vegetarian is...and has a couple friends at school who are vegetarian []
 
eta: oops forgot the fur. No I don't own any but mainly because it seems old fashioned and I can't help but think of pimps when I see a fur coat LMAO...aside from that I don't have an opinion on or the industry as a whole.

Veggie all the way here.  I wish I could give up on leather, but shoes, belts, car seats (because of the dogs), and wallet just don't function as well in any other material.  I can't imagine wearing a hemp belt and canvas sneakers to a meeting with my clients at work.
 
My dogs eat meat, but not because of I think I'd be imposing on them otherwise.  Mostly because I'm not convinced they'd do well on a veg. based diet.  Believe me, if I thought they would thrive on a veggie diet, I would push my ethics on them in a heartbeat.  Why not?  Parents do it all the time to their kids and nobody seems to mind that (think religion, diet, morality, etc).

Main difference there is that a child will grow eventually into doing thier own study, making their own choices and from there...upholding those ethics or forming their own different ones.
 
They also ask "why" and force a parent to explain themselves (that makes for great comedy lemme tell ya!)[]

I would make a great vegetarian if I could eat only cheese all day but I don't think that would be a balanced diet. Veggies are ok, I eat them because I should, not because I enjoy them.

 
Yea, that's me except I love my grains - bread, pasta, popcorn, etc.  I eat meat, but I do buy my beef from a small hobby rancher (no steroids, no anitbiotics, no hormones).  She raises longhorns and the beef (even the ground) is leaner than anything I've seen in the store with the exception of the buffalo.  I do know I'm incredibly lucky to be able to do this as I think it is not only healthier (for me and the cattle), the cattle have better lives AND it's cheaper.  I wish I could do all my meat like this.