Texas governor orders anti-cervical cancer vaccine for all schoolgirls

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    Texas governor orders anti-cervical cancer vaccine for all schoolgirls

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    What does everyone think about this?  Good?  Bad?  Indifferent?

    Personally, I don't see a problem with it.  If it does its job, then the health impacts outweigh the other arguments.  If I had a daughter, I would be fine with her receiving the vaccine.  However, I'm very liberal and do not see this vaccine as a "green light" for sexual intercourse for teen girls like the conservative opponents.  Teens, regardless of gender, will find a way to fool around if they really want it.  A vaccine will not suddenly blast their hormones into overdrive and send them out on the prowl for a roll in the hay.
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    I was going to do it anyway when Lily was older...I don't appreciate being told I MUST do it...but I do all the rest and am glad I did so...I guess you could put me with the "indifferents" on this one. Oh and as long as the insurance covers it I'm indifferent..lol!
     
    Perry is a helmet-haired weenie...I detest him. We had such  fun with his campaign commercials this past election!
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    I think it's terrible to force a vaccine on anyone. This is a brand-new one, we can hardly know what side-effects it'll have. I'm in the age range of girls who can get it (I think it's up to 26?), but I will not be getting it. Honestly, I think cervical cancer is the least of our worries, and forcing a vaccine that may or may not do anything about it is just wrong, IMO.
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    I kind of agree with Gina, I don't want to be TOLD to have my girls get it. It seems awfully early to be including that in the required vaccine protocol. I'm still contemplating this one.
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    I got this shot about a two months ago, I had an app at Kaiser and she told me since I am young I should get it. I did but later started thinking about how I wonder if there are risks involved.
     
    Also its a set of 3 or 4 shots, I got one and I hate to say it but OUCH[:(] .
    The nurse told me while she ws administering it that people have said that it burns...oh my god yes it does! Also it sort of scared me because she said I was one of the first people to have the shot....great I was a tester.
     
    I have not gone back to get the rest, I wanted to do some more reading up on it and the side effects.
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    I personally don't want to be the guinea pig for the longitudinal study of the side effects of this vaccine, but if this is truly a great preventive measure I am all for it.  These days for any girl who's had even just one sex partner, you're pretty much guaranteed at some point to contract HPV, unless you and your partner have only been exclusively with eachother your whole lives.
     
    I was reading on another forum, a woman in her mid-20's just had a pap smear come back positive for HPV with dysplasia.  She just went in for her culposcopy and biopsy (a very painful procedure and I can attest personally to that) and was told it had spread some into her uterus.  This is practically a  reproductive death knell for a young woman of childbearing age. 
     
    I've had 6 partners in my lifetime, I am sure at some point I would contract HPV if I don't get the vaccine, but I won't get the vaccine until its been out for awhile. 
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    My 2 girls will not be getting it. I would like it to be out on the market for at least 10 years before having my girls get it.
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    I think it's wonderful. I wish this had been invented 5 years ago, I would have been first in line. Something like 85% of all women will contract HPV at some point in their lives, and usually it's no big deal but it can be if you have no insurance and have to go in for followup doctors appts every 6 months... or just *hope* you don't develop cancer from it. Anyone can get HPV... you can get it even using protection, and men almost never know they have it.
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    While I think the vaccine is probably a good idea, I am another person who does not agree with the government telling me what to get, at least not when it is something fairly new. The length of effectiveness hasn't really been determined yet, they can only say 5 years as of right now. I'd be willing to venture that it does actually last longer, but what if it doesn't? If it doesn't, I can't really see the reason for giving it to most 9 year olds, since the large majority of them will not be sexually active by age 14, which is how long it could currently be considered effective. I also disagree with it more now after reading the articles and seeing that a second, possibly better vaccine that would protect against two types of HPV rather than just one is in the works.
    My sister called me up the other day and told me to go get it while i'm still on our parents insurance (until the end of September) and the doctor really wanted to push it on me, but i'm waiting. If i'm 25, the second vaccine isn't on the market or close to it yet, they haven't upped the age range for this one, and nothing horrible comes out about it, i'll probably go get it. Until then, I can wait.
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    I think cervical cancer is the least of our worries, and forcing a vaccine that may or may not do anything about it is just wrong, IMO.

     
    It should be high on your list of worries.  It is the number one cancer killer of women world wide!!!  In the USA it is a little farther down the list.  Why do you think we so strongly encourage pap's yearly, to look for this cancer because frequently it doesn't cause symptoms until it's too late to cure.  This vaccine which contain 4 strians of HPV, the most common ones that cause cervical cancer and HPV will prevent 80% of cervical cancer cases.  Millions upon millions of lives will be saved world wide.  This is regarded in the medical community as the greatest break through of my generation so far!  Along the lines of the polio vaccine.  I hope everyone will have their daughters vaccinated.  Remember, you can get these strains of HPV without having sex!!!
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    I think it's wonderful. I wish this had been invented 5 years ago, I would have been first in line. Something like 85% of all women will contract HPV at some point in their lives, and usually it's no big deal but it can be if you have no insurance and have to go in for followup doctors appts every 6 months... or just *hope* you don't develop cancer from it. Anyone can get HPV... you can get it even using protection, and men almost never know they have it.

     
    I forgot to mention that too Jones :) you are right on the money!!!  It's estimated that >70% of the sexually active population in the united states has HPV.  Many have no symptoms.
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    Wow! This sounds a lot like the forced Anthrax vaccine that the military made us all get. New, didn't know what it was, said it was around for years but...we had to get it. A lot of people refused and got kicked out for it. I got the whole series, it does leave a pretty mean bump on your arm for a while. Then along with the rumors that went around, not tested, won't be able to get it up, makes you sterile, testing it on you...blahblalblahhhh...
     
    No way I would let anyone tell me that I had to get something new poked into my daughters arm. But then again, i'm sure a lot of people said all of this a long time ago when all of the other vaccines came out.
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    I don't think the government should be making this mandatory. It should be up to the parents and the young women of age as to whether they want to do this.  The effectiveness and side effects to me are worrisome. That and the cost for the vaccine.  It isn't cheap! I also find it disturbing that there was no public debate in Texas, the governor just up and made it mandatory. I know the parents can file an affadavit based on religious or philosophical grounds to keep their child from having to take it, but I still believe it should have been a personal decision - NOT a government mandated decision!!!! 
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    I don't think the government should be making this mandatory. It should be up to the parents and the young women of age as to whether they want to do this. The effectiveness and side effects to me are worrisome. That and the cost for the vaccine. It isn't cheap! I also find it disturbing that there was no public debate in Texas, the governor just up and made it mandatory. I know the parents can file an affadavit based on religious or philosophical grounds to keep their child from having to take it, but I still believe it should have been a personal decision - NOT a government mandated decision!!!!

     
    If you look on pubmed, you will see more then 20 pages of studies on this quadravalent vaccine.  It is very safe and has superb efficacy.  Waiting until you are "of age" is too late.  The american cancer society, american academy of pedciatrics, etc.  all endorse vaccinating children BEFORE they are sexually active.  Really, step back from the "government is trying to push me around" stuff and think of how many lives will be saved from this.  It really is a wonderful thing.  If you have seen even one of these patients die, and it's a horrible death for YOUNG women, you would run and get your children vaccinated!    We make people get vaccinated from other potentially lethal diseases, why should this be any different?