I got robbed

Wouldn't it be best if you just wouldn't read them?

 
Wouldn't it be best if they were not in a thread about a frightening attack that one of our members recently endured?

So, I'm guessing from my experiences I should just not trust anything with male genitalia?

 
Yes, and you can start with Billy. I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. It was meant in fun.
 

I agree with you Erin.
 
And Billy, no,  I shouldn't just not read this thread.  You are making some pretty sweeping blanket statements that *could* be construed as racist and *could* stir some major sh*t, so can't we NOT do this?

ORIGINAL: jones
If you like I can qualify it and say that people who are not trained in self defense should not carry weapons

 
That is a pretty major qualification and, considering it, I agree.

Okay, lets not attack eachother.
When this guy did this to me do you think he said to himself, oh there's someone walking alone so maybe I'll target her. Not. I found out a bit ago that this guy has been doing this for quite sometime and it has been to only white females. I'm sure after the fact, I was know as the white bi+ch he robbed in the parking lot, I'm sure that at that moment it was quite amusing to him and his buddy.
We have skin heads here that last summer murdered a young black guy in the middle of one of our parks with many people watching. Did anyone come to his aid, No.
It wasn't because he was black, it was only because the idiots that attacked him were wack jobs. Both black and white trash seem to keep company with their own, hence they become gangs and terrorize people. So maybe in my own way I am a racist against these types of people. Before when a saw a bunch of "homeboys" standing together I felt uncomfortable. I know now when I see them, I'll be scared sh!tless. Now let me ask, who created this image in my mind, who has given them this reputation that they wear with pride like a badge on their arm??????????
Sure as double hockey sticks it wasn't me.
 
 

Oh Ron, you know you want Billy's nards on a silver platter.
Just wanted to add that in Canada, Blacks and whites are entitled to the same legal services. Each gets to choose the lawyer they want to have represent them from a long list. If they all kept their ducks in line, no-one would need to have legal representation. 

That is a pretty major qualification and, considering it, I agree.

 
Well, considering in my original post I said "you" (lena) rather than "people" I would say I was actually just qualifying the pronoun as specific rather than general.

ORIGINAL: glenmar

And Billy, no,  I shouldn't just not read this thread.  You are making some pretty sweeping blanket statements that *could* be construed as racist and *could* stir some major sh*t, so can't we NOT do this?

 
I believe I have presented facts to support my "sweeping blanket statements."  If someone wants to construe my comments as racist, that really isn't my problem.  Facts is the enemy of truth.
 
I am pretty sure that if our moderator has a problem with my comments, she will make me aware of it.  If you have a problem with my comments, with all due respect, simply don't read them.

ORIGINAL: jones

Well, considering in my original post I said "you" (lena) rather than "people" I would say I was actually just qualifying the pronoun as specific rather than general.

 
Well then, if you want to play semantics, since Lena is forbidden by Canadian law to carry a weapon, your point makes little sense.  []

I could go on and on about Racial issues and the role of society in them.  Society as a whole plays a large part in the success of minorities.  You have to take into account societal views, acceptance, tolerance, racial profiling, etc.  And I am sure some of you may disagree with me, but I would put society to blame for much of the fact that the majority of inmates are black, etc.  Its a terrible, terrible thing, but in my opinion, it is true.  Society at large is to blame.  Of course, I won't deny that culture plays a large role as well, but I cannot not speak about the demise that White America creates for minorities.
 
ps. sorry mods.

I have to agree, I'm not in the least a racist person, but I agreed very much with a special that was done on I believe 20/20. They showed a white male pushing around a white female in a public place to see if someone would help this women. Many people did stop. Then they showed the same situation with a black male and a black female and not one person stopped to help. They moved the situation to another location and the only person to step in was an elder black male. When asked why no one stopped, black and white people both said the same thing. They were afraid, and you just assume the black male is carrying a weapon. This came out of mouths of black people as well.
 
I see it so often, where a black young male is hanging out in front of a store acting like a goof, and you will see a young white male doing the same thing, you will more likly worry about what the black male will do.  I am not saying that this is right and I ahve nothing against black people so please do not put me in that category, I am stating facts. The crime rate in our city is higher in young black males than in white males. The drug ratio is higher in young white males than it is in blacks.
 
A man was killed last weekend here. A young black male,, the people charged in the crime are white. What was it over? Drugs.

We'd all like to believe that, Billy.  But the fact is that if people really had to be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, there would be far fewer innocent people in prison and far fewer guilty ones walking around.  Unfortunately, a trial is not about getting to the truth, but who has the best lawyer.  That's what it boils down to.

Joyce

ORIGINAL: fuzzy_dogs_mom

We'd all like to believe that, Billy.  But the fact is that if people really had to be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, there would be far fewer innocent people in prison and far fewer guilty ones walking around.  Unfortunately, a trial is not about getting to the truth, but who has the best lawyer.  That's what it boils down to.

Joyce

 
People do have to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.  That is the law.  And EVERYONE in prison is innocent.  []
 
I was once the foreman on a jury.  If you ever get a chance to pull jury duty, you should do it, ONCE.  Anyway, this case involved a black defendant who was accused of raping his former (white) girlfriend.  The members of the jury were not allowed to discuss any aspect of the case until we began deliberations.  To me, this was VERY MUCH a case of "he said, she said."  Neither of the parties was credible.  Someone should have slapped the snot out of both of them, if you know what I mean.
 
I remember, after the trial, going to the jury room and being scared to death that I was the only one thinking that the prosecution had not overcome the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.  Right away (after being "elected" foreman) I asked, "Does anyone think this SOB is guilty?"  Not a single hand went up.  Praise the Lord.  There were 4 charges against the guy, 3 major felonies and one minor felony.  We acquited on the three major charges right away, and after a bit of discussion, dispensed with the more minor charge the same way.
 
To Joyce's point, this guy had spent 8 months in jail, , awaiting trial, for charges we the jury decided he was innocent of, because he couldn't afford to bond out and couldn't afford a lawyer who was capable of getting the bond reduced.

ORIGINAL: alieliza

Society at large is to blame. 

 
And therein lies the problem.  Attitudes just like that.  No accountability.  Don't blame the person.  He couldn't help stealing Lena's purse.  Blame "society."  Whatever that means.  Give me a break.
 
 

Well,  I had not planned on getting into all this but I think Billy is right on this one.  The only one responsible for our actions is ourselves and the choices we make.