I learned a few things today re human allergy stuff (Callie *rolling eyes*)

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    I learned a few things today re human allergy stuff (Callie *rolling eyes*)

    It's not even been worthy of mention but I found a spot of cellulitis last week & given my weird history of allergic reactions to meds, he put me on Bactrim rather than risking over-use of the one that typically 'works' since this is a very very early caught episode.

    I knew over the weekend the psoriasis was mega itchy by bedtime but hey -- that's life wi psoriasis.

    yesterday morning I woke up to find 4-5 huge mosquito bites on my chin.  ITCHY to the max.  Bad mosquito year but dang you'd think I would FEE that?  Over the course of the day I saw 4-5 more on the soft underside of my left arm.  Dang -- WHY didn't I see the buggers?  am I that brain dead?

    With all the scratching and my washer not spinning I forgot to take my morning antibiotic.  I *am* brain dead.  In fact it was 5 p.m. before I remembered it.

    5:40 -- my arm is on FIRE, as is my face.  David says to me "Honey -- I'd think you would have SEEN that many moquitos?  Are you SURE those are bites?  (looked like it -- big red 'welts' -- wee tiny puncture in the top? itchy as h$ll??)

    But in the past half hour I know have like TWENTY on my arms and oh ... my ... gosh .... MY FACE! 

    NOT mosquitos.  Hives.  New Antibiotic. Bactrim's website says even "itching" is cause to race to the doctor.

    My doctor has instructed me previously about taking tons of benedryl if I suspect an allergic reaction.  It was popping out slowly enough (but lots) and I really didn't want to go to the emergency room (they always get SO freaked by the psoriasis and I really really REALLY don't want to risk MRSA).  Despite the TONS of benedryl I took (and because it was needed so bad it didn't even make me sleepy) by the time I got to the dr. this morning ... oh my stars.  Never have I reacted like this.  A shot of dex + a big shot of Benedryl and I'm totally fine.

    So what did I learn? LOTS

    1.  I always thot hives was pretty much were always going to look the 'same' on the same person.  Nope -- apparently not.  In the past when I've broken out with hives it's been a fine but itchy/oozy rash confined usually to one area.  What I had this time were dime-sized huge hard bumps/papules -- some touching, some not, but over mostly my mouth/chin, ears/throat, arms, hands, and behind (the fact that my butt was affected has to somehow be funny!!)

    2.  I always thot hives erupted FAST (instantly).  Apparently not always.  Some do (some DID - it was how I finally nailed down that it was the antibiotic - thank heavens I forgot that morning dose cos I wouldn't have tied it to the antibiotic if it hadn't been so noteworthy time-wise.).  They just kept popping out more and more of them.

    3.  The PA I saw wanted me to talk to the dr. about an epi-pen (which I had already decided to ask about.  Never looked into them because thus far I haven't been deathly lallergic to anything.  Because this was all around my mouth, throat - I admit it was scarey. 

    This is where I *really* learned a bunch. 

    An Epi pen is mostly for environmental stuff -- like bee stings, or those folks deathly allergic to peanuts.  My dr said he really does't like giving them to anyone "adult" unless it's life or death type emergency stuff.  **Because** it's epinephrine, a/k/a adrenaline -- it makes the heart speed up.  i.e., it could give you a heart attack (and I already know I"m overly sensitive to stuff like that, so no go for me) to cope with/treat anaphylactic shock.

    BUT specifically - I didn't know that it only works for about 20 minutes and in THAT TIME you **MUST** be at a dr. or ER to THEN be treated.  so particularly in the type of allergic reactions I seem to have, he told me to either take specific amounts of benedryl (which he helped me with for *me*) - I did the right thing in the amounts I took and the frequency last night) but then get to a doctor in the morning.  And IF I get into a situation where the Benedryl just isn't fast enough, Call 9-11 !!!!  (thankfully I had liquid Benedryl on hand last night - it IS faster.  You have to take more because of how it's dosed, but it works faster).

    I also found out that it's a good idea to "tag team" Pepcid or Zantac WITH Benedryl in an allergy crisis.  Benedryl is one type of histamine blocker, but Pepcid and Zantac (normaly stomach protectants) are a different type of histamine blocker so you get better "coverage" with those.

    I'm fine now.  Despite all the Benedryl I'd taken he gave me a honkin HUGE shot of it (way more than I'd taken already), along with a shot of dexmethasone (steroids are never my friend longer term, but a one shot deal, in this case helped enormously).  Went home, went to bed, zoned for hours (I have a high tolerance for Benedryl but that flattened even ME *lol*).  Woke up with the hives pretty well gone.  He told me to continue the Benedryl (told me when I could/should take more after the shot wore off).

    He also confirmed for me -- I've always known at least for *me* that when I'm in absolute allergy h$ll, the side effects of Benedryl are vastly diminished.  If I really really am hugely besieged by an allergen I barely notice Benedryl even if I take it during the day.  But when it's not allergy season, it makes me sleepier.  If your body REALLY needs it, the side effects can be less bad.  Some folks just can't take it.  But for me?  The stuff like Claritin just doesn't work at all.  I'll do homeopathics very often, but this was WAY beyond that. 

    It was just all a bunch of stuff I didn't know.  I had to have the pharmacy flag that I can't take any sulfa drugs (Bactrim is in the sulfa family & we knew it was a risk because of the auto-immune stuff I have, but it was worth a try.)  But anyway, after today I feel better able to 'deal' with the allergic reactions I'm prone to - but figured I'd put this out there hoping it might save someone problems some time.

    My husband works with a woman who is SO allergic to peanuts that she went into a room last year where they were having a birthday party -- and just being across the room from a cake with some ingredient that had peanut oil or something in it she went into convulsions just from going in the room.  A friend knew she had an epi-pen in her purse so between that and 911 being called right away she was fine.  My heart breaks for someone with that sort of allergen - gosh, you couldn't go anywhere!

    I am not trying to brag or self-absorbed, but if I was clueless about this I thot it might save even one person problems if I mentioned this - with the chronic skin issues I have, it's really difficult to know when something is "just a bit worse" than the typical itch I live with, or something bad.  I *hate* over-reacting. Sometimes reading for the 15th time the 'warnings' on the pharmacy print-out can sort of set you up to see problems where there aren't any, so I try not to over-react.  Determining an emergency isn't all  that easy.  We've talked about "hives" on here in conjunction with dogs, and I know I have a family history of it but I never had them until well into my adulthood.

    Have dealt with all types of allergies for years -- and maybe I"m the only one not aware of this stuff. 

    (edited to make more sense)

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     WOW.  I am so glad you are OK now.  AND that you didn't encounter a new breed of invisible mosquito!

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    Freedom

     WOW.  I am so glad you are OK now.  AND that you didn't encounter a new breed of invisible mosquito!

     

    You know, a lot of folks are going to think my post is dumb or that I'm trying to get attention.  But I truly thot I was losing my mind.  I dismissed hives right off because I've HAD them, and it was nothing like *this*.

    That's the biggest reason I posted this -- hives just aren't something most folks "see" commonly.  And usually when they're talked about it's just called "hives" (it's unslightly -- NO One wants to describe THAT).  But I figured if I could give even a few people some idea of how slowly this manifested (I'd been taking the antibiotic since Wednesday!!  It just took that many days for my body to build up toxicity.)  And it was one I'd taken in the past.  (but the distant past - hadn't had this one in years)

    Years ago when Ms. Socks broke out in hives it was virtually instantaneous.  When I break out in hives from chipotle it's FAST (I got a burger once and someone had used a turner on my burger that had been used on a burger with chipotle sauce on it) and I broke out in hives in about 10 minutes with just ONE mouthful.  So I wasn't watching for this *then*.

    The size of these, Sandi -- they would have had to be mosquitos developed by the MIlitary for covert operations.  Win a war with no battle -- itch your enemy to death! sheesh.  Stealth mosquitos -- SCAREY thot!!

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    Thanks for the heads up.  My only allergies are the best antibiotic and the best pain killer.  Dont know why but that is it.  I probably should wear a Allergy tag but do always include those items on my medical and emergency notification papers.

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    Its good to know and inform people. Especially if you’ve never encountered this before .I bet a lot of people would of thought misquotes or spider bites.

    I've had a few different types of hives in my life time and it took me forever to figure I was getting hives from the

    Laundry detergent and fabric softener . I have the use the “free” stuff and my laundry has never been as

    Fresh since.

    I even get hives if I be come extremely stressed out.

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    PawMaid

    I've had a few different types of hives in my life time and it took me forever to figure I was getting hives from the

    Laundry detergent and fabric softener . I have the use the “free” stuff and my laundry has never been as

    Fresh since.

    I even get hives if I be come extremely stressed out.

    I think that was the biggest shock to me -- was that there can be "different" looking types. 

    I react to tons of stuff -- even as a kid (like 57 years ago when I was a baby) Mom couldn't use Tide or I'd "break out" (which now makes me thing "hives";)

    At least THIS batch of hives was easily gotten rid of.  It's the first time I've gone for a shot of steroid *and* the massive dose of Benedryl.  The last time I actually had hives (from that chipotle) it took me almost three weeks to heal.  It honestly never occurred to me *then* to go to the dr.  This particular time scared me because it was so close to my mouth/throat and my lips were numb.  That's WAY too close to it disrupting my breathing for me.  I have no notion of leaving this life early for something like THAT! 

    It did, however, renew my determination to ALWAYS have liquid Benedryl on hand.  You have to take freaking tons of it (two teaspoons of the foul stuff equals ONE 25 mg pill) but it works FAST.

    I suppose I should also try the little tabs that dissolve in your mouth. I've never even used one.  But that too should zoom right in. 

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    We keep liquid benedryl on hand for both us and the dogs. My husband's doctor wrote him an epi pen prescription. But mine would not We live 45 mins to the closes hospital. Thats driving fast.I am always trying to add to our emerancy kit.
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    calliecritturs

    You know, a lot of folks are going to think my post is dumb or that I'm trying to get attention. 

    Callie, not dumb at all!  It's good to know that just because you've had something a few times and it looked a certain way, you can't assume that it will always manifest itself the exact same way. I've never had allergies of any kind (knock wood) but I know that isn't any guarantee that I'll never develop any.  I'm glad you're feeling better!

    Joyce

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    Glad your okay. Lol me taking benadryl would have knocked me out. I've never had hives before, I do get dry skin from time to time and then this red rash on my chin from time to time. I usually don't take anything because when I do it either makes me feel like i'm on drugs or sleepy,groggy,tired or makes me sleep. My doctor doesn't understand why pills does this to me but got a feeling he thinks I'm a nut job lmao
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    I've actually continued to pop out with a few "hives" (itchy big red bumps still) all week despite taking more Benedryl than I ever knew I could take (on the dr's orders) -- didn't even yawn at work - which is scarey how much my body apparently needed it.

    I had to go back to the dr. yesterday (Friday) for another mega-shot of Benedyrl/ldiphenhydramine but hopefully THIS kicked it.  He told me to continue taking Benedryl as needed -- but this is the first morning all week I haven't awakened to a new bunch of hives!! RAH!!

    Each day it's only been like 4-8 of them that would fade after big doses of benedryl.  But Friday am I had like a dozen, so I figured I'd better get back to the dr.  I'm feeling fine, thankfully.