Any ideas on how to introduce a puppy to a cat?

I don't know what to say. . .I read your post that your cat isn't feeling well.  I know you're young so hopefully your mom will get her checked out by a vet.

But, regarding this new puppy. . .this doesn't make sense to me.  You "got rid" of your previous dog of the same breed, I might add because of issues with the cat.  What makes you think that the new dog isn't going to do the same rough type playing with the cat?  

I'm sorry, I just have a real problem with we "got rid of" one dog and now are going to get another.  Especially since it seems like you're going to end up in the exact same situation again with the same breed of dog.  You'll most likely end up "getting rid of" this one too. 

God forgive me, I just really hate that phrase, "we had to get rid of her".

we did have to get rid of her not just because of her behavior toward the cat but other things as well. We tried our best to make her mind and listen (not to anyone in the house, not me, my mom,dad nor sister and we were being as ferm/consisting as you could get) to us but she just wouldnt (there wasnt any puppy classes avaible at the time b/c i wanted to take her to them). We thought that maybe her parents didnt have a good temperment (since we told the vet about the breeders and they acted like they werent good plus we never got to see hide nor hair of her parents nor the rest of her littermates to see how her temperment would be like). She also shown a bit of aggression towards other dogs and sometimes when we had her outside to potty she tried to lunge at ppl passing by. I wanted advice/pointers on how to properly introduce a puppy to a cat b/c I dont know if we did it right or not or if it was just that the dog didnt understand that she wasnt ment to do that. She would ram the cat into the hallways,doors or furinature, bite her tail and she did something one time that made the cat squall out really loud (which i dont know what she did b/c I wasnt paying attention).  Just because our previous did this doesnt mean others will. Just like people, not every person in the whole world has the same temperment and that goes for dogs. All are different with attitudes. But the reason we gave her away wasnt totally based upon her attitude towards our cat but of other things as well (such as the not being friendly towards dogs and sometimes growling/lunging at passerbyers and yes we walked her where there is tons of dogs and ppl) but this is not the point of the thread.I know that everyone has oppinions but i didnt post this message to get lectured, I posted this to get advice on how to do the introducing properly.

The reason im getting another ones is b/c its my favorite breed (plus i have to get a small dog, my mother doesnt erfure big dogs and the other dog breeds arent my cup of tea) and the house feels empty w/o a dog and yes we miss our other one but we did what is best and she has a loving home with a little girl to play with and not to mention a jack russell terrior. And no I will not be getting rid of this one, to much money/vet bills spent to get rid of a second. If she didnt have those problems when I would still have her today but there is kids and dogs around where I live.

But if thats what everyone is going to do is lecture/critasize me, then dont bother posting b/c it will not answer my question or make me think different about getting rid of the previous dog b/c whats done is done and besides I didnt start this top to talk about my revious dog, I stated those b/c I thought maybe I didnt do the introducing right. 

FWIW, I think you're just asking for trouble getting a Corgi and expecting it not to try to herd and play with your cat. That's what they do.  A major benefit og getting a purebred dog is that you know basically what to expect... corgis herd, scent hounds sniff, greyhounds run, etc.  And I'm with willowchow on the "get rid of" attitude.  I'm suspicious of how much aggression your puppy actually displayed - how much is true aggression (in a corgi???) and how much is inexperienced people misidentifying untrained puppy exuberance.  And in any case, all of the behaviors you mentioned are easily managed. You don't have to abandon a family member because of them. You just don't let the cat and the dog in the same room.  Our border collie mix would harass the cat if we left them in the same room alone, so we never did. It's just that simple.

That said, among other things, let the cat come to the dog on its terms not the other way around.  When you get your puppy, never let her off-leash to give her the chance to chase or torment the cat until you have taught her how to act around your cat.  Praise her & treat her & generally make a big deal of her for ignoring the cat. 

You can set up some sort of barrier that the cat can feel secure behind because only she can get past it and let her choose how quickly she wants to enter the "puppy area."  You can put the dog in the crate and let the cat get to know the dog that way -- sniffing around outside the crate.  But mostly you have to train the dog not to harass the cat by teaching her what proper behavior looks like. 

Lots of PR training books have step-by-step instructions on how to train a dog to ignore a cat.  And obedience class is absolutely a must. It's not a "well, maybe if we have time"

ORIGINAL: jensw

FWIW, I think you're just asking for trouble getting a Corgi and expecting it not to try to herd and play with your cat. That's what they do.  A major benefit og getting a purebred dog is that you know basically what to expect... corgis herd, scent hounds sniff, greyhounds run, etc.  And I'm with willowchow on the "get rid of" attitude.  I'm suspicious of how much aggression your puppy actually displayed - how much is true aggression (in a corgi???) and how much is inexperienced people misidentifying untrained puppy exuberance.

That said, among other things, let the cat come to the dog on its terms not the other way around.  When you get your puppy, never let her off-leash to give her the chance to chase or torment the cat until you have taught her how to act around your cat.  Praise her & treat her & generally make a big deal of her for ignoring the cat. 

You can set up some sort of barrier that the cat can feel secure behind because only she can get past it and let her choose how quickly she wants to enter the "puppy area."  You can put the dog in the crate and let the cat get to know the dog that way -- sniffing around outside the crate.  But mostly you have to train the dog not to harass the cat by teaching her what proper behavior looks like. 

Lots of PR training books have step-by-step instructions on how to train a dog to ignore a cat.  And obedience class is absolutely a must. It's not a "well, maybe if we have time"

thank you for your advice, I will take it and use it. I am going to inroll this pup into a obedience class either at petsmart or petco or this other place. I am aware that corgis are herding dogs but when she was doing , I wouldnt classify as herding b/c she would herd us and not lunge or bite us, just go for our feet. I would more say she was bullying the cat b/c she wouldnt get after her feet, she would litterally jump ontop of her back and I have seen dogs heard sheep,cattle before and they dont jump on their backs.
 
But i truely accept your advice and I will most deffinatley use it. It seems very helpful, thank you very much.

 since I was telling her no and my dad and grandma was telling her something different.

 
If I were you, I'd wait 'til you were an adult and out of the house before getting a dog.  The poor thing is simply going to be confused by so many different standards, and you aren't old enough to insist that your elders train the puppy properly.

ORIGINAL: jensw

 since I was telling her no and my dad and grandma was telling her something different.

If I were you, I'd wait 'til you were an adult and out of the house before getting a dog.  The poor thing is simply going to be confused by so many different standards, and you aren't old enough to insist that your elders train the puppy properly.

This time I am going to tell my grandmother off about it and if she doesnt like it, I could care less. She is just the type that she thinks shes knows everything about every animal and that you are stupid and no nothing (she is just an overally bosy person).And let me give you an example, my mom doesnt like animals up on her couch or chair since the their hair sticks bad to the couch fabric and my grandmother thinks that is just terrible and told us we should give our pets away if we dont let them up on our couch/chair and thats comming from a person that isnt clean about their animals or envirement. lus Im going to tell my dad not to encourage her to herd us or rough house her. Those are big NO NO'S. Actually I am old enough to tell them how I want her to be taugh because I will be 18 next march, so all my dad will do is pout a bit and get over it and I could careless if my grandmother doesnt talk to me or thinks less of me since she isnt the apple of my eye.

I was talking to my mom about the situation about my grandmother trying to tell you what to do with you animals and my mom gave me a solution of keeping the puppy in my bedroom while she (my grandmother) is visiting and only take her out of them if she has to potty and then when shes (my grandmother again) leaves, bring the pup back into the front room. YOu have no idea how terrible my grandmother is about telling you how to do this and that with your animals, its just down right annoying and not needed when your clearly doing fine! But I dont mind people telling me how to do things if I need help, I just hate it when she tells you things that you dont like (like how to raise the animals and do this and that) when you have been raising animals your entry life. I think having animals your whole life doesnt classify you as a dummy (which she makes me feel this way).

uhhh... sorry to sound kinda... well...

Your going to be 18, you'll be moving out soon, you have some issues with your family and whatever else is going on. Where is the dog going to fit into all of this. I know your concerned with your kitty but your being the tipical teen about everything. What's going to happen when you turn 18, your going to move and then who gets the dog? Where are you going to live? Can you Take the dog with you once you move out. Even if you don't move out till you 21 the dog is still going to be around.

It probly doesn't matter what I say about you getting a dog or not but if you do at least you should know... A puppy will play with the the cat like the cat is anouther puppy, not much you can do about that. As the puppy grows you just need to teach it that biting is bad, you or the cat or anything for that matter. The dog starts to bite distract it, shake a can with pebbles in it, squeek a toy. Don't yell or get angy with it, use positive renforcement. Watch them together and catch any bad behavors as soon as you notice them. Stop them before the dog has time to think about doing them agean.

ORIGINAL: Xebby

uhhh... sorry to sound kinda... well...

Your going to be 18, you'll be moving out soon, you have some issues with your family and whatever else is going on. Where is the dog going to fit into all of this. I know your concerned with your kitty but your being the tipical teen about everything. What's going to happen when you turn 18, your going to move and then who gets the dog? Where are you going to live? Can you Take the dog with you once you move out. Even if you don't move out till you 21 the dog is still going to be around.

It probly doesn't matter what I say about you getting a dog or not but if you do at least you should know... A puppy will play with the the cat like the cat is anouther puppy, not much you can do about that. As the puppy grows you just need to teach it that biting is bad, you or the cat or anything for that matter. The dog starts to bite distract it, shake a can with pebbles in it, squeek a toy. Don't yell or get angy with it, use positive renforcement. Watch them together and catch any bad behavors as soon as you notice them. Stop them before the dog has time to think about doing them agean.

Im not going to be moving out anytime soon since my mom has me to help her around the house (she has back problems) and plus im not ready to be by myself.Heck i dont even feel 17 and thats terrible. My parents doesnt make you move out if you do not want too. As long as you help out around the house, your welcomed to live there. My sister is 30 and she is still living here[:-]

I dont mind the puppy trying to play with the cat. I just want the puppy to know when to stop when shes being to ruff. The biting was a problem with my other one because of my dad. But this time Ill make him understand and tell him how I want it to be. And thanks for your advice, i apperciate it as well []

Just remember people her are more concerned about the dog then the person who owns the dog. If anything looks a little fishy about the care and handling of the dog the owner is going to hear from us.

At least your doing the right thing by asking for advice first before just getting a dog and not having a clue of what to do. There are some breeds that don't shead on the fruniture, like terriers and poodles. A JRT is a nice small dog and even scotties or schnowers are good house dogs, Corgies just need a little more room than the indoor life can offer so maybe thats why they tend to act out if not given something to keep them entertained. Heardign dogs tipicaly need lots of space no matter what size they are. Maybe with this dog you can take it for more walks and to parks, socolize it with other dogs and people while it is a puppy. Just keep the dog active and it should have no reason to act out.

ORIGINAL: Xebby

Just remember people her are more concerned about the dog then the person who owns the dog. If anything looks a little fishy about the care and handling of the dog the owner is going to hear from us.

At least your doing the right thing by asking for advice first before just getting a dog and not having a clue of what to do. There are some breeds that don't shead on the fruniture, like terriers and poodles. A JRT is a nice small dog and even scotties or schnowers are good house dogs, Corgies just need a little more room than the indoor life can offer so maybe thats why they tend to act out if not given something to keep them entertained. Heardign dogs tipicaly need lots of space no matter what size they are. Maybe with this dog you can take it for more walks and to parks, socolize it with other dogs and people while it is a puppy. Just keep the dog active and it should have no reason to act out.

You have to live with my grandmother to know what I mean. Its different when the animal is in a bad situtation/living condition and ours isnt. We provide them with food, tlc and take them to the vet when they seem sick,checkup or needs shots. Her problem is (and my mom said she was like this since she can remember) she thinks that having cats makes her know everything about every animal and it clearly doesnt. She thinks that all dogs act the same, which they clearly dont and she thinks that shes always right. Everytime she comes up to our place, she thinks we should give the animals what we're eatting when they clearly have food in their bowel. Also she thinks that when an animal (lets say a cat) comes up to you meowing or something, she thinks there always hungry when they clearly are not (we leave food out for them all the time and they come get what they want). She thinks she does animals good which she actually doesnt. She lets her animals suffer in pain before getting they euthanized (one of her dogs had artheritz so bad that he couldnt walk,get up or even hold his head up to eat/drink) to put them out of their pain.

But yes, I like to get my facts in before I go and do something. I want to make this one work. Im aware that corgis can be inside dogs but for that to happen they need lots of exercise to work off the pounds since there big eatters, thats no problem for me since we have a lovely lake to walk them around (the lake is about 1/2mi  in circumferance) and plus walking them along the Ohio river (tons of people do this) is great as well. I dont mind taking them on walks at all, besides that means exercise for me as well .[]

Ive looked at all breeds and for some reason the little corgi stuck to me. Poodles arent my cup of tea and nether are most terrors. But dont worry about the living condition b/c our place is squeaky clean and she was well takened care of, we just had problems making her behave. 

Blind irish luck. You just have to have some luck but also, obedience training. Though I haven't enrolled Shadow in a dog training course, though I would love to do that, I have worked on obedience with him and he listens to me most of the time. It helps that he grew up with a tomcat. Plays with the loose cats from our neighbors. And I had an old cat when we got him. Provide a safe haven for the cat where she can go when the dog gets too rambunctious. Spend the time to train the dog so that you can stop him long enough to corral him, if necessary. And be consistent.

You say you want the facts.  The facts are first dog aside, you are not ready for a second dog.  Trust me, the same thing is going to happen.  You just want to hear what you want to hear, which is not surprising considering you are young yet.
 
 

ORIGINAL: ron2

Blind irish luck. You just have to have some luck but also, obedience training. Though I haven't enrolled Shadow in a dog training course, though I would love to do that, I have worked on obedience with him and he listens to me most of the time. It helps that he grew up with a tomcat. Plays with the loose cats from our neighbors. And I had an old cat when we got him. Provide a safe haven for the cat where she can go when the dog gets too rambunctious. Spend the time to train the dog so that you can stop him long enough to corral him, if necessary. And be consistent.

 
her save haven is under my bed. thats where she runs all the time when shes scared...its her favorite spot[] I was being consistent with the last one but that seemed not to help with her[&:]

ORIGINAL: willowchow

You say you want the facts.  The facts are first dog aside, you are not ready for a second dog.  Trust me, the same thing is going to happen.  You just want to hear what you want to hear, which is not surprising considering you are young yet.

im not a young teen thank you very much. im almost 18 and 18 is considered an adult for females. I just want someone who has a dog that lives with a cat give me some pointers on how to introduce them properly. Im not that dumb (i know you didnt say that). Just b/c the first one didnt mind doesnt mean the second one (not every single dog in the entry world acts the same) wont.Take your chow for an example , some can be nice and the friendlest dog you have ever seen but some is known to be vicious/mean.See? Not all of them are alike Just like rottis,dobermans,saint bernards, pitt bulls and etc.

Sometimes people breed dogs just for the money and dont think about the temperment of the offspring. My mom,sister and I have many questions about the breeder we got her from and doubts about her. You dont have to backlash me because Im young,new and am saying things you dont like. Many people give away animals do to behavior problems or agression, im not the only one in the world you know. Little children younger than me get dogs/puppys an are you suppost to tell them their not ready? They have to start somewhere and get experiance. You only learn from your mistakes and everyone makes them...no one is perfect in this dog gone world.

And you dont know me, so how do you know if Im ready or not? Just b/c I didnt have a good experiance with my previous corgi doesnt mean I wont for the rest of my life. I wanted another dog to keep me company and occupied since there isnt much to do in the area I live in. There isnt a crime for wanting a dog to keep you occupied and be your pet is it? No there isnt. Just reading what I type on these message boards doesnt make people know me at all.
 
sorry if i sound rude, i didnt mean to be i just wanted to get my point across