UPset and venting

 IMHO, this whole situation could have been prevented with a leash/long line.

Seems this has become a greatly self-rewarding behavior.  Harder to overcome w/treats. For me, corrections are likely in order (at least for dogs of appropriate age).  But I realize that's a last resort, or NON option, for others.  Personally, I believe with safety issues, that consequences that I establish are far more considerate and kind than what mother nature, a car, or a neighbor's attorney could dish out.

Im sorry about your incident,

On days I feel off or stressed and the dogs are irritating me ( not often but living with them 24/7 for thier whole lives its bound to happen) I too have a little bit of crate time for them.

With Grim (5 months) I have a light 2 foot leash on inside I can grab if I go to the door and I have a light 15ft line from a old flexi I cut off to use outside on recalls along with clicker/treats, Its very useful and Grim is doing great on his recalls and attention cues.

When raising Proof, my first dog I soley raised from 7/8 weeks I became frustrated at times because he was my first puppy and we were learning all the puppy antics together so I understand the frustration but it will get better with time, patience and help from others who been there.

Good luck shammy, your girl sounds like she has alot of personality and with time the bad habits will go away with your love and training.

 I really don't have any advice on this particular issue but what Simba lacks in that department, he sure as heck makes up for in the jumping and biting. It seems others on here are giving great advice though. The one thing I could a suggestion on is to try and not use her crate for punishment. I know it's immensely frustrating when they don't listen but you don't want the crate to be a 'bad place'.

 

Sorry, I know how frustrating puppy hood can be, it seems like she's entering that OH SO WONDERFUL adolescent stage. Blegh. Still in that with Simba but it gets better and I'm sure you know that. :) Just hang in there! And Echo, cut your mommy some slack! 

A long line keeps everyone safe... Not just stopping Echo from being in an RTA but also keeps the general public safe from that jumping. I know it's just puppy play and there is no meanness in it, but that doesn't make it any less dangerous. A child, or an elderly or frail person could be seriously hurt. Heck ANYBODY could be hurt, if they lose their balance and fall in front of a car or something. In our heads we can know that we shouldn't really be upset, but it doesn't stop you feeling upset or angry does it? I think a lot of it is fear, because it could have gone so badly. And some of it is anger at ourselves. I know I've thought MANY times "argh! How could I gave been so STUPID!!!???". And of course most if us are a lot more grumpy when we're in pain.... I would have done the same I think - get home, crate the dog, cool down. The crate shouldn't be used as a punishment, but if the dog LIKES bring in the crate, it's not a punishment, especially not if it has a nice tasty Kobg or something in it! It's just another reward for coming home. I've lived with an escape artist for 15yrs and eventually, I got past being upset when he escaped and ran off... I got good at switching it off, setting that emotion aside and being genuinely HAPPY that he was HERE. He came back to me/he is looking at me and not running/whatever. I'd find SOMETHING to be pleased about and praise him for. He gave me an insight into what clothier means when she says "Train without ego"...

Does she need this much freedom?  I'm just thinking of my puppy Pan and also thinking back to Nikon...neither have/had access to the front door, door dashing is not even an option.  Nikon has full house access now but puppies, if they are free, are confined to the den via a gate (actually two, one at the bottom of the stairs and one at the top, for good measure).  This way, people can come in/out without dogs near the door or getting pounced on.  I personally have never leashed dogs in the house or used drag lines but I do use crates, gates, and expens to manage.

 

Um... why wouldn't you be mad at the dog? :-p Sure, it's our own fault, etc. etc., but I really don't think that's a natural reaction. Our gut reaction is "ARRGH stupid dog stop doing bad things!!" and THEN we sit down and say, "No, self, don't be angry at the dog, it's your own durned fault." It's not the being mad that's even a question, but rather what you do with it.

I've had a lot of success with my dogs just not allowing them by the door. When I was younger, our dog was not allowed in the living room (the room that led to the front door) or the laundry room (the room that led to the garage). Depending on your house setup, that might not be an option, but is still something to think about. With Rascal, he is not allowed anywhere near the door, ever, unless he is on leash. He learned that boundary very well. As a result, he only very, very rarely even attempts to make a run for the door, and if he does, it's usually because of crazy circumstances (like a cat walks by the open door).

I think some boundary training (maybe in addition to the things other people have mentioned, like a long line) might really help you guys with this.

Liesje

Does she need this much freedom?  I'm just thinking of my puppy Pan and also thinking back to Nikon...neither have/had access to the front door, door dashing is not even an option.  Nikon has full house access now but puppies, if they are free, are confined to the den via a gate (actually two, one at the bottom of the stairs and one at the top, for good measure).  This way, people can come in/out without dogs near the door or getting pounced on.  I personally have never leashed dogs in the house or used drag lines but I do use crates, gates, and expens to manage.

 

It depends on the lay out if the house I think. I've lived in places where it was very difficult to manage with gates. My SILs old house had a front door straight into the living room... It would be doable on our house, but a line would be easier for us. Also, it's cheaper, doesn't require as much acclimatisation as a crate and can be used to keep the pup WITH you (instead of just in one place).

Thanks all for the suggestions.  Yes, Tiffy, this whole situation could have been prevented with a long line, true enough.  She is dragging a leash now.

 

Well, the situation could also have been prevented by keeping the dog crated 24/7, installing an electric fence, installing a non-electric fence, gluing the dog's feet to the floor, building a moat around your house, etc., etc. Hindsight, 20/20, etc. I think the only important thing is that you recognize that the door-dashing is a problem and you are working on fixing it. :) No need to guilt-trip yourself with "coulda, shoulda, woulda" syndrome. ;)

Thanks, Cita.  Hindsight is always 20/20.

She had been doing so well with respect to staying back from the open doors up until tomorrow. Goofball.

Will continue to work with her as usual.

 I would second what a lot of the other people have mentioned.  Only thing I would add is for a door dasher I would put together a little emergency kit for each door where this can occur, get a hook and hang it right next to the door.  For the kit I would get a small bag and inside have a small leash/slip lead (note you won't want her to see the lead until you already have her).  Then more importantly I would pick out both the most high value toy possible and high value treat that can be stored at room temp.  Really go all out on the treat.  Think big, something that can be seen from a distance and think something super tempting.  That might mean a large bully stick, or perhaps whole can of wet food.  Diet be damned too.  If your dog thinks wet cat food is the best thing than that is what you get.  Find something that will make her toes curl and stick it in the bag.  Then if an emergency does happen there will be a little bag of necessaries right at the door that you can grab to improve your odds.

Lies and Cita- Good advice!! Im so use to having the puppy closed off with me or kenneled that I forgot to add that as an idea on how to deal with jumping/dashing. Some of the things I do with my dogs/puppies have become second nature and forget others might not know about such ways of containing pups.

 

I can empathize with being momentarily mad at the dog.  I've had that moment with Coke.  It's not so much that I'm mad and going to punish the dog, but despite everything I did or had been doing, the dog got out and could have been in grave danger given where we live.  The anger and frustration is seeing the dog at his happiest moment having no understanding that you are trying to PROTECT him.  Having an escape artist who WILL blow off EVERY form of recall and "reward" (NOTHING is as reward to him as running around and playing that game), I've come to put management way higher than training.  Our problem was not door dashing but escaping from the yard (prying the gates open, digging under the fence, etc).  Coke is now permanently on a tie-out inside a fully fenced yard.  His tie-out stretches to our back slider, so I open the slider and he goes onto the porch (full enclosed), gets hooked up, then I open the porch door and let him out.  Same thing in reverse, he is not unhooked until he's on the porch and the porch door is shut.