Thinking of getting an Alaskan Malamute or Siberian Husky

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    • Silver

    Thinking of getting an Alaskan Malamute or Siberian Husky

    Hi,
     
    I have recently found this forum and registered right away. After long years I have finally decided to get a dog to share life. Well I love the Alaskan malamutes. But now I am living in an apartment.
     
    I am thinking of giving one of the largest rooms to it. Also I can take him to exercise twice a day(morrnings and evenings). Also I can give as much time as possible when I am home, rest of the day it will be with my mom who is retired.
     
    Do you think it is possible to feed one of the above breeds with enough attention such as the things I mention above? If Anybody feeding a malamute or a husky in an apartment can give me some information I will be very happy.
     
    Thanks...
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    Hi and welcome to I dog. 

    I have never owned a Malamute or Husky, but I have had friends who have.  I could not tell where it is you live, what the climate is.

    Malamutes and Huskies are working dogs, they like to be kept very busy and require alot of exercise and training.  They are very smart dogs, and as they say, idle hands are the devil's workshop--in a dog and idle mind can be the devil's workshop.  Another consideration is the amount they shed, they shed ALOT.  And, if you live in a hot climate, it's not a great place for either of these breeds. 

    Is there a particular reason you chose these breeds? 


    • Silver
    Thanks a lot for the answer.
     
    Well in summer it is considerably hot(25-30) the hot period is about 2-2.5 months, while we are having really cold winters below 0 most of the time.
     
    Some reasons for me to choose these breeds are:
     
    - I saw that they really get along with families. They are emotional, kind.
    - Clean dogs when compared to the other species.
    - Jack London :D.
    - It is said that they don't bark.
     
    Do you have any suggestions about cleaning, how much time to spend with them. Can they stand to 3-4 hours of absence from home? Also I read that they are harder to train, how hard?
     
    Thanks again
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    About the no barking thing.....I don't have a whole ton of experience with northern breeds myself, but for some reason I remember hearing that they're not exactly quiet!  I'm pretty sure that they do bark, and probably howl as well.  Unfortunately I can't really help you with any of the other points as I don't have any direct experience with owning them.  Good luck deciding!
    • Gold Top Dog
    They may not bark much, but they sure do howl!
    • Gold Top Dog
    There are other husky and malamute owners on this forum, but I'll tell you what I know.

    They shed like CRAZY. I mean, hair everywhere. You could brush him for hours and still come up with more hair.
    Need TONS of exercise.
    The Siberian that I knew particularily well only barked about 2 times in his entire (14 year) life. He did, however, howl when he was happy. Which was often.
    The colder the climate, the better. The one I knew well always happiest in -30 degrees C. When they brought him inside, all he wanted to do was go back out.

    But, I don't blame you for wanting one. They are a very gorgeous, loving breed. I also hope to own one some day. [:)]
    Welcome to the forum, by the way.
    • Gold Top Dog
    here are a few links with information about siberian huskies.

    http://www.shca.org/index.shtml
    http://www.siberianrescue.com/
    http://www.huskycolors.com/siberian.html

    it is not so much that they are hard to train, they are very independent and often times even if they know a command they will choose to ignore you.

    generally they blow their coat twice a year. this is a period of HEAVY shedding. they dont necessarily shed too much the rest of the year. huskies should never be trusted off leash outside of a fenced area. they should not be left alone in a fenced yard as they are excellent escape artists (even if you have a six foot tall fence). they are diggers. they need ALOT of exercise. they also do better in multiple dog homes than in single dog homes.

    again all of these are general characteristics of the breed, and any one husky may not possess all these traits. i am sure that ron (if he sees this thread) can offer alot more information about huskies than i can, as i think he has done much more extensive research into the breed than i have. good luck with whichever breed you choose, and always remember to check with petfinder.org and local rescue groups as huskies are dumped quite often by owners that are not prepared to deal with a huskies exsintricities(sp?) on a daily basis.
    • Gold Top Dog
    A photo of the boy I loved so much...
    Run Free, big boy.


    • Silver
    Wow Sierra, very nice dog. I have a huskey myself :D . Well, Huskeys need ALOT of attention, and exercise (like everyone has been saying). They are very obidiant to MOSTLY thier master. If your mom is going to see this dog more tha you it will get attachted to her - not you. Best way to give it company, is get 2 dogs instead of one - huskeys love other dogs anyway. Be sure to let it out and exercise ALOT though because if you don't well.... look at my avatar :D
    • Gold Top Dog
    First, I would not have a malemute in an apartment, they are just so gigandomondo and energetic!
    But that's just my opinion.

    A malemute is a different dog from a husky, even though they look similar they are not just larger versions of huskies. I haven't owned one, but I have known a few. They are more territorial, for one thing, and can become very one-person dogs to the point where you have to be careful to keep them socialised so that other folks can be around them.

    Huskies need ooooooodles of exercise. And if they don't get it they go kind of crazy, and get into all sorts of trouble in the house. They can be incredibly clever about how they get in trouble! Which is why so many of them end up in shelters.

    They aren't the kind of dog you can take with you off-lead. They take off. Running is in their blood, and you can never really trust them not to run away.

    My dog is half husky, and I'm telling you she is bending the laws of physics as far as how much fur can come off of a 45 lb. dog! She doesn't even have long hair, and my life is COVERED in dog hair. Right now she's shedding and I'm brushing her twice a day and sometimes even more. I still have hair absolutely everywhere.

    Huskies won't shed in the winter IF, and ONLY IF, you have them outside most of the time during the cold period. If your dog is a house dog he will shed year-round.

    When you say you have time to exercise a dog twice a day, I wonder exactly what you mean. A walk twice a day isn't going to do it for a husky. Just so you know! Don't delude yourself about the time and attention you can give a dog. If you need to leave it for hours at a time, I would not suggest getting a husky.

    • Gold Top Dog
    Everyone has given you good advice.
     
    Northern breeds adapt well to varied climates. the thick coats are insulators against hot or cold. Plus, the northern climates can get quite warm in summer, so they are used to wide swings in the climate. But they are happiest in below 0 F with snow. Alaskan Malamutes are bigger, with greater pulling strength but are not quite as fast as Siberians.
     
    Siberians regulate their own intake and have a unique slow metabolism that is triggered by exercise and work. They can be obedience trained for off leash but that is not what they were bred for. They were bred to pull hard and run fast in the coldest conditions on Earth with very little food. Their metabolism is better than most at getting everything out of a little bit of food. Simpler food works better. They are an ancient bred that has been bred for at least 1,000 years and never for looks or conformation until the 20th century. They eat smaller meals, more often. It is not uncommon to eat only a cup or so at a time. They have the ability to run 30 mph for ten minutes or more and can run for hours at a slower pace.
     
    They are rank-oriented and you, the human, need to be in charge. My mix will hardly eat unless I am there. As for what to feed, they sky's the limit. I know of a pure Sibe who is living past her life expectancy on just dog food.
     
    As for exercise, twice a day is good, especially if you can have them drag or pull something. Similar to, say, Greyhounds, they are athletes that need an outlet for energy, whether it is walking, running, or playing. They play hard. 60 pounds of flying love can knock over a child without meaning harm, so care must be taken to train them as well as children how to interact with them. They can forget training when it suits them. They can be lousy as guard dogs, since they are so people friendly, while at the same time, being shy and aloof until they know you better.
     
    There is a couple in Denmark who live in an apartment with Alaskan Huskies who manage to go to the park a few times a day with a long lead. It has been done, it's just preferrable that they have a large yard to play in.
     
    Good luck with whatever you do. I applaud your realization of their needs and the thought you are putting into it before just getting one.
     

    • Gold Top Dog
    I'm owned by a malamute and a grew up with a malamute... and I mean it when I say "owned," lol.
     
    First and foremost, no, they don't bark a lot. They howl a lot. If you get a mal, expect that everytime an ambulence or fire truck goes by to hear a long, mornful howl (it's happened to me only twice, thank god. It's actually kind of creepy and make my the hair on the back of my neck stand up). Expect that everytime you ask for your dog to do something (like sit) to get an earful of Woo, Wooooo, Wawoowa. When we used to leave Kimo (RIP) outside while we went to run an errand (which I would never leave a dog outside now) he would sit on the porch and pitifully howl until we got back.
     
    Despite what the "breed IQ" test will tell you, Malamutes (and huskies!) are smart. Very, very smart. You will need to stimulate the mind just as much as the body. If you don't, they'll do it for you and you may not (most likely won't) like the results.
     

    Do you have any suggestions about cleaning, how much time to spend with them. Can they stand to 3-4 hours of absence from home? Also I read that they are harder to train, how hard?

     
    Cleaning, as in bathing? Do it as needed. Like if he/she roles in poo, bathe. If he/she starts to get a hint of doggy odor, bathe. Otherwise, don't worry about. They have a very clean coat and also clean themselves like a cat would. Also, expect to brush, brush, and brush somemore or just deal with the "puppies" growing on the floor (i.e. clumps of hair behind the door, under the couch, along the registers, etc).
     
    Yes, they can handle a 3-4 hour absense. But, I also recommend you crate them for reasons stated above (about them entertaining themselves). A crate will also keep them safe.
     
    Finally, they aren't harder to train. They just don't respond well to "Fear" based training. By that, I mean when you use a physical correction when the dog doesn't comply, they don't take well to it most of the time. It's better to use positive reinforcement while training them and behavioral modification is best done in "doggy language". You might also find that it's harder to get them to comply with the asked behavior. They need a reason to sit, stay, and come... at least more than the age old "because I want you to sit, stay, come." They were bred to have a mind of their own and to be able to function on their own, and it will sometimes work against you. Also, never let one off lead in an unenclosed space. While they might know what "come" means, it does not mean that they will stop chasing that deer and come back to you.
     
    Also, I don't want you to think they are all glamour to care for. During the first year I had Maddi, she made me very upset more than once. I mistakenly got a Malamute for my first dog, and, except for the fact that I believe if I hadn't bought her from the BYB ( I didn't know any better at the time) she would have ended up in a shelther, I wouldn't have gotten her or a mal at all. I would have gotten a lab or golden! But, the good news is, that Maddi has forced me to get a whole lot better at my training skills. She's forced me to understand dog behavior. For that, I thank her. She also still mouths me a lot. From what I've read, it comes with the territory. She's chased the cats since day one, and I have given up hope that she will ever stop. I really think that they need to be introduced and socialized to cats before 10 weeks. I simply try to contain and control the behavior; doors get shut in certain places so they can get away, at least faster, than she can chase them.
     
    And finally, I just want to give a fair warning. Both Kimo and Maddi got hold of albuterol inhalers. I'm not sure if it's a malamute thing or not when it comes to inhalers, but please, please keep all medications out of reach. Kimo's symptoms clear up after a few hours, but Maddi's didn't and she had to spend the night at an E-vets (it scared the crap out of me and was quite costly). But, what I am trying to say it, they will get into things. Do your best to prevent harm.
     
    And then, there's excercise. There's a thread entiled something like "How do I excercise him?" You should read it; it's very helpful.
     
    I'm not sure if this post is at all helpful... I often feel like I'm rambling, but if you have any questions about Mals, please ask. I'm by no means an expert, but you can say "I've been through the learning curve... several times."
     
    Oh yes, get the book Culture Clash by Jean Donaldson and read it cover to cover before you get a dog.
     
    On a side note,
    A malemute is a different dog from a husky, even though they look similar they are not just larger versions of huskies. I haven't owned one, but I have known a few. They are more territorial, for one thing, and can become very one-person dogs to the point where you have to be careful to keep them socialised so that other folks can be around them.  

     
    That's kind of wierd, because most Malamutes aren't like that. They are usually social butterflies with people (one of the many reasons they make poor watch/guard dogs)... as long as they've been socialized during their fear period anyway; the can, however, easily become like that will other dogs so during the adolescent years (pretty much from birth to 3 years old) they need to consistently be socialized with other dogs.
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    I've actually known two or three who were like that, and with the dog being so large, you don't want that to happen. Just a good reminder to be sure to keep your dog socialised. [:D]
    • Gold Top Dog
    Oh yes, I don't disagree at all about socialization [:D]. Maddi wasn't socialized for the first 4 months of her life. When I brought her home, she was terrified of other dogs and people (she'd frantically try to get in the house when the neighbors came home or when we saw another dog on a walk she turned fear aggressive). With a lot of work, I've cleared up the dog problem, but she still is shy and won't let strangers pet her unless she's been around them a lot, or at least for a few hours. She will, however, talk to them... and scare a lot of them with her grumbling (which not husky/mal savy people think is a growl [:)]).
     
    Sorry... rambling again [8|], but I can't help it!
    • Silver
    Thank you very very much for all your responses. I'm really happy that I find here.
     
    I am trying to get as much info as possible about these breeds since I don't want to have an unwanted situation making the dog or me unhappy. As far as I see with enough effort I can do it.
     
    Some other things that I'd like to know, when it's alone what kind of "toys"(if any) you give him to have his attention to prevent it from getting into trouble.
     
    Hmm about the howl thing, how high is the volume?
     
    And is it easy to socialize a malamute? You have stated that it is necessary and I want it to get along with other people. I really don't want an aggressive one.  
     
    Thanks again...
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