Dog / Animal photography - Any tips / guides?

    • Silver

    Dog / Animal photography - Any tips / guides?

    Greetings all!

    I've been crazy busy so haven't posted lately about Drake (who has earned the almost replacement name "the Kraken";) or our little girl Tarla, but things have been pretty good lately except for drake sneaking onto the formal dining room table and eating about 2 cups of hershey's kisses w/ wrappers.  All is well, no adverse reactions - fortunately Drake is seriously desensitized to most foods - I think it's his potcake lineage, not sure.  I'm sure pooping out bits of tinfoils wasn't pleasant, but he overall he was a fairly happy puppy through it all.

    ANYHOW, for my birthday my wife surprised me with wad of cash and said "Go buy yourself a good camera, ours sucks and we're both tired of it, and I'm tired of you being frustrated with it!".  So I did just that, and bought a Sony Alpha55.  Other than the electronic viewfinder at night, I freaking love the thing.  However, I seem to not be able to get good shots of the dogs.  

    What do you all do to get good shots of your dogs?  Do you hold a treat?  Drake doesn't do eyes so well with the camera for some reason - maybe he's Amish??

    • Gold Top Dog

    no idea what sort of camera that is. BUT...you need to be at the level of your dog, not from above...being outside is helpful for light's sake unless you have a speedlight/external flash that you can attach that DOES NOT come from the front. Most on camera flashes are useless and created huge pools of unnatural light that make pets eyes look like demon possession is taking place. Front flash can also scare them into running whenever they see the camera come out LOL.

    Avoid using the flash whenever it is practical and instead turn on any inside lights, open the curtains, etc. then open your aperture to let in more light, and slow the shutter some...this works best with a still subject tho...for animals in motion the "action" setting if you have one is best...but again once you use a flash indoors you kinda lose the natural look of the photo.

    I don't bait my dogs unless I want a pic of them sitting right in front of me. I simply accustom them to a strange person with a strange black object always following them...like in nature photography once your dog stops focusing so much on you THAT is when you will get the good shots. Sometimes the key to this is simply going outdoors...where distractions abound.

    But if your camera is a DSLR then investing in a speedlight/external directional flash should be a high priority. And always keep your camera handy because they do things at the most inconvenient times LOL.

    • Gold Top Dog

    oh and also...I again have no idea how "fast" your camera is. But when I owned a Point and Shoot I became very good from necessity at ANTICIPATING when a shot might present itself. If, when you press the button to take a photo...you have SECONDS between that and the photo actually being snapped...this can be a huge problem. You will miss shot after shot. You must learn in that case...to anticipate when your dog is going to do something cool..like jump for a ball or off the couch...

    Don't snap the pic when it happens....it'll already be too late and you will get the end of a tail or leg and that's it. if you want a shot of them running place yourself perpendicular and lead into the action and press the button BEFORE your dog enters the frame, etc.

    This can be helpful. I still do this now with my extremely fast DSLR and it does still help to get a good action or suspended motion shot. Once you spend enough time on this you will learn the body language that indicates your dog is about to break into a run, bark, jump up, hit just the pose you want, etc. A good sense of timing can really lead to some great shots.

    • Silver

    The camera is pretty fast, it has 10 sps w/o complete AF and 7-5 (more like 5) with AF turned on.  It's a sorta DSLR, it's a DSLT.  I really love it, because it's quieter than a standard SLR, and it's handy to be able to use the EVF (electronic viewfinder) during the day and see the "real" picture on the LCD without dealing with glare.  The only complaint I have about it is that the EVF looks funky at night in low light situations.  Other than that the realtime AF in video is stupendous, so much better in fact that it persuaded me to not buy a T2i or wait for a d7000.  Plus I think the lenses are better, because they have a lot of Zeiss parts in them, but that's debatable. 

     

    I will have to watch body language and get good at it I guess!

    • Gold Top Dog

    My #1 dog photo tip is to get down at the level of the dog!  IMO this really makes or breaks the photo.  When I'm taking dog pics I'm almost always lying on my belly.  When I do "official" photography for a big show and take stacked pics of the dogs, I am sitting down or on my knees so the camera is shoulder level. 

    These are a few candids from the past week or so where I was lying on my belly:


    Other tips.... 

    • snap constantly - if I'm going for action shots I might take 5-10 pics continuous and keep the best one
    • try to keep yourself between the dog and the sun/lightsource (unless you are intending to have the dog backlit)
    • I prefer to use a telephoto lens, stay farther away, and zoom in so the dogs aren't distracted by me or the camera
    • for my mostly black dogs, I often focus on something else at the same distance or another part of the dog b/c if I focus on the solid black areas (and am not shooting manual) the exposure is wrong
    • for indoors I use a simple speedlight flash that I point at my (white) ceiling, even my flash which is the cheapest in the line and has no features is 10 times better than the pop-up flash on the camera body
    • Gold Top Dog

    I agree with whats been said by everyone. Take LOTS of photos in a session to make sure you 'get the shot' and getting on the same level as your subject will have the greatest impact. I have had many times when I'm photographing where I'm on my stomach or side or kneeling to try to get the right angle or composition. I would also highly recommend learning the 'Rule of Thirds'. I have seen many great subjects lost in a photo because the composition was off. Learning the Rule of Thirds is a great way to learn how to draw the most attention to your subject. While I personally don't use a flash, I would have to agree with the others about the onboard flash, I think you 'might' be able to use it if you get a diffuser to put over it, but generally, getting an external flash is better. I also do what Lies does with black dogs and then I use exposure lock and re-focus the photo to where I want it to be. The other thing I have to suggest, is ALWAYS make sure the eyes are in focus, a photo can easily be ruined if everything is in focus but the eyes. And most important have fun and play around with settings and practice alot! Learn your camera from front to back, you will get the most out of any camera if you know all the functions. And thats about all I can think of, I'm a Canon user so I know nothing about the Sony ones, so can't help you there. Good luck and have fun! Big Smile

    • Gold Top Dog

     My dog detests the camera! Ask everyone. The moment I touch it she's gone.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Getting at their level is a good suggestion, but most of the time I preferr to bring them up to my level since crawling around on my belly and getting up off my knees isn't as easy as it use to be. Big Smile  This is why I use a large platform I built when shooting formal shots of dogs.  The added height also makes most smaller dogs think (hence pause) before jumping down.

    I also shoot different between outside and inside, since the lighting is going to be different.  I'm lucky and have a full set of studio lights for indoors, so lighting is almost never a problem... except when I  have the lights set up with the idea the dog is going to face a certain way and they keep wanting to face the opposite. Big Smile

    If you can afford them, for indoors, the biggest help would be to get extra lighting. This will go a long way in improving your indoor shots.  Stay away from the halogen hot lights. They are cheap and they can light up a barn, but they are, well, hot. Hot enough to start a fire if they fall over or something lands on them. They also create a very harsh light and in most cases is going to be too bright and contrasty in a normal room.  

    There are a number of fairly in-exepnsive cool light setups (these use multiple florescent bulbs) as well as electric strobes and moderately priced higher power studio flashes.  You can get kits that have lights, light stands and umbrellas or reflectors anywhere for around a $100 on the low end to under $200 for better quality and more powerful 2 and 3 light kits.  You don't need cables either as the flash on your camera can be used to set them off. Be careful though, the more you learn to use them and the better your pictures come out, the more you are going to want to add to them. Big Smile

    Background is another consideration. Unless you are one of the types that has a nice big living room with open walls or very photogenic settings, having the TV, dog toys, tables, couches and chairs in the background are going to be distracting.  I doubt you will want to go the route of having painted backgrounds and 9 foot rolls of background paper like I have, but getting a large muslin cloth to use as a background doesn't have to be that expensive either. I perfer dark over a white one though, as it keeps from competing with the dog.

    For baiting, I've found a lot of dogs are different. I've shot some that were food driven, some where toy driven, some reacted to noises, some to movement and some, no matter what you did, didn't react to nothing.  If your dog likes food, then his favorite treat will work, or for something different, stick cheese, pieces of hot dog or something else might keep his attention and get him to pose for you.  I've also used the squeeky maker out of squeeky toys (I collected them for a long time and had all kinds of noise makers) and even the baby farm animal and other noise boxes where you pull the string to get it to make a noise worked very well. With most dogs, something like this only works very well once, then they lose interest in it. So if you use something like this, be ready the first time you try it. That's when you will get your most interesting look or reaction.

    When I first started shooting our dogs, they could care less, but once they learned that when my camera came out and the lights and background got set up they were going to get a lot of treats and attention, they would rush to get on the platform, pushing each other off to be the first one to get their picture taken. I wish I had taken movies of some of the epesodes when I set up to do dog portraits. Big Smile

    Having a fast camera is important, but also having one that can shoot at a high ISO setting and still give you noise free shots. You can slow your camera down and open up the fstop all the way open, but then movement is going to start affecting your shots and a very short depth of field (how much is in focus from the front to the back is depth of field). Sometimes you have to go with a higher ISO so you can get a faster shutter speed to stop movement or at least minimize it. Some times you want to get everything in focus from nose to tail so you are going to need to stop down your fstop to increase the depth of field.  If you don't have any choice, remember to try and always get the eyes in focus. If you can get the eyes in focus, then usually the depth of field will cover the tip of the nose to the ears. If you get the nose in focus then maybe the eyes will be in focus but the ears and beyound won't.  If you get the ears, then the nose won't be in focus.  But having the eyes in focus will usually cover all the head.

    I don't know if  your camera has a delay from when you push the shutter button to when it actually snaps the picture, but if it does then that's going to make it harder to get action shots. You will need to learn to anticapate your shots so you can take the shot before the dog has moved past where you wanted.  If you have instant shutter click when you push the button, it will be a lot better. 

    Also you will want to use as high a quality setting as you can. Digital cameras let you take different quality jpeg and usually what is called Raw.  I shoot everything in Raw myself, but then I never know what lighting conditions I'm going to be shooting in and Raw lets me get every bit of information out of the digital file.  Most people can use high quality jpeg and do just fine. The higher the quality the bigger the file is, but the more information the digital file has and the bigger the image you can print.  Low quality is good for posting on web sites and smaller prints. Medium and High quality will let you print larger prints, with the High quality letting you print very large prints that still look good at the larger sizes (assuming they were in focus and properly exposed to begin with).  What ever memory card you camera takes (mine takes both CF and the mini card) get a card that is big enough that you can take a good number of pictures before you have to swap out... and get extras.  Some people say to use a small card so if you lose the card or the images you don't lose that much but I'm the opposite. I don't want to have to swap cards in the middle of a good shoot so I use large cards that will let me take several hundred Raw images at a time. So consider how many shots you are likely to take and carry extra cards and an extra battery or two if you go out to shoot.  Nothing worse than being out at the park or shooting the dogs playing in the snow and run out of memory space or your battery runs down. I hate it when that happens because right afterwards will be the shot of a life time. Big Smile 

    The number one thing you can do though is read and re-read and read it a couple more times, the manual that came with your camera.  Learn all the features and what they do. So many people buy decent cameras with lots of features and they never learn what it can do and when to use them.  Practice and practice and practice some more. The better you know your camera, the more prepared you will be for taking quick shots and also the less you will fumble around when you are trying to take pictures.

    Even if you don't get lights and flashes and all of that stuff, learn about fstops, shutter speeds and ISO settings. If you learn the basics of how they all interact with each other, then you will be way ahead of most people and your pictures will show it.  Most of all, just have a lot of fun with it and take lots of pictures.

     

    Mike 

     

     

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    Kindredspirits

    ... I would also highly recommend learning the 'Rule of Thirds'...

     

    So, when I bought my camera, I took a friend along who is a professional protographer who said I would either love or hate my camera based on the electronic viewfinder.  Other than lowlevel night shots, I pretty much love it!  It is so stinkin' easy to turn on the rule of three grid and get it overlayed on the image.  I messed with this yesterday and took a bunch of shots.  I'll try and upload some tonight.  I have to figure out the aperture stuff though to blur out my house.  My house is ridiculously colorful and slightly distracts from the people in the image.  Hopefully more tonight - thank you all for the tips, I'm reading manuals and checking out that digital photography school website, so far so good, and hopefully getting better!

     

    • Gold Top Dog
    The smaller the aperture (higher numbers i.e f/8) the more in focus everything will be, the wider the aperture (lower numbers i.e f/1.8) the narrower the depth of field will be. So if you want people in focus and the background blurred you'll want to shoot at a wider aperture setting. I also try to keep my subjects a few feet away from the backdrop to get a nicer blur or bokeh. Hope that helps :)
    • Gold Top Dog

    So much good info on here already.

    Separation between subject and background is crucial for the background to be blurry.

    Take a ridiculous number of shots.

    read, read and re-read the manual.  Give your self assignments to learn each function of the camera.  Recently I have been learning how to use my external flash in total manual mode (and off camera as well). A little bit of off camera light can do a lot to improve an image taken in full sunlight.

    my favorite photography forum...http://photography-on-the.net/forum/

    have FUN !!

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    Ok first of all thanks for asking the question.   I dont know if I caught all of the info but....I did learn alot by the tips given.  Especially the Black dog tip...I always have trouble with that and I always have black dogs, lol!  I have had trouble taking my photos from camera to post in photobucket for putting on this site.  There fore I have changed the settings on my camera to be smaller so I dont have to manipulate them in photo bucket for hours just to post here.    This doesnt really seem to be solving my problem now they seem too small.   I am somewhat technically challenged in that I can learn quickly but it takes me forever to research the info I need, lol!

    • Gold Top Dog

    Shadowsgin, black dogs can be a real pain to shoot.  Long haired black dogs can add an even greater challenge to it.  I found this out when we got our first Bouvier, which has a long hairy black coat.  It took a lot of practice before I could start getting consistant results with shooting them.  With a black dog you need to keep several things in mind... a couple of the main ones are, the direction your light is coming from and, the color of the background. 

     Black dog hair (or fur on some dogs) absorbs light just like a black tux or dress on a person will.  Dark skin on a person can also be a challenge because it absorbs light while lighter skin will reflect light.  What you need to do, if it's possible, is to skim the light off the coat at an angle.  Instead of having the light coming from directly behind you or from your flash on the camera, have it come from a 45 to 65 degree angle from either the right or left (depnding on which way the dog's nose is pointing).  By skiming the light from an angle to the camera, you will get more detail and better highlights than if the light hits them from the same direction as the camera is pointing. 

     Background is something most people over look.  Unless you shoot in manual and use a light meter to take your light readings, your camera figures out the exposure for you. Camera brains have gotten pretty good over the years, but they can still be fooled very easily when pointed at a area with contrasting light sources.  Say you are shooting a black dog in front of a light colored wall or light green grass or a sun lit patch.  When you point the camera at the dog and press the shutter button, the camera first "looks" at the scene and evaluates the light so it can set the exposure of the camera. Most camers have sensors that look at the just about the same area as you can see in the view finder or the LCD screen, so it's going to have a sensor or two on the dog and probably all of the others on the light areas around the dog.  It's computer takes an average and decides that there is a certain amount of light and sets your shutter speed and fstop based on that. It does this very quickly.  What happens is that it can be fooled by the lighted areas, so it closes down the fstops a bit to let less light in the camera. This properly exposes the lighted areas around your dog, but now your dog is under exposed because of this and becomes a black blob that you can't see much of (except maybe teeth and tounge if the dog has it's mouth open). 

    There are a few ways to over come this... one is with exposure compensation. This is where you tell your camera to always expose by one or two fstops above what it thinks it needs for proper exposure.  Most cameras have this but some are easier to set than others.  Another feature that some cameras have lets you move in close so that the dog fully fills the view finder, takes a meter reading and then remembers that reading when you back up to frame and shoot your picture.  Sometimes this is done by half pressing the shutter button and holding it until you are ready to shoot and then you press it the rest of the way. 

    By limiting the area that the camera uses to do it's metering, the better exposure you will have for the important part of the image, the dog. Big Smile  Here are a couple of the black hairy dogs I've taken pictures of:


     

     

    Mike 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Kindredspirits

    I agree with whats been said by everyone. Take LOTS of photos in a session to make sure you 'get the shot' and getting on the same level as your subject will have the greatest impact. I have had many times when I'm photographing where I'm on my stomach or side or kneeling to try to get the right angle or composition. I would also highly recommend learning the 'Rule of Thirds'.

    Thank you very much for that link. I bookmarked that site. Looks awesome with a lot of helpful and well presented information. I want to learn how to photograph dogs really well... and if anyone knows of a good starter book please let me know.

    • Puppy
    When shooting outdoors, remember that shadows are your enemy. With practice you can actually use shadows to give some interesting and dramatic effects. But, trying to get good exposure on bright sunny days with lots of shadows is similar to the problem of trying to photograph a black dog. Learn to treasure nice overcast days, or even days with a light mist. You'll get better color saturation, and you won't end up with half you photo either overexposed or underexposed, or half your dog's body looking like a big black blob and the other half with the color all washed out. You'll also get warmer richer colors shooting late in the afternoon/early evening than at midday when the sun is directly overhead. And what everyone else has said about getting down and shooting at the dog's level. Can't overemphasize how much this improves the composition of photos.