puppy

    • Bronze

    puppy

     I  have a puppy,.....and wondering when i go to work...do u think its acceptable to leave it in a 48 sq foot play pen for the day with its toys...i think that would give the little guy alot of room...im still trying to house train it.
    • Gold Top Dog
    How old is the puppy?
    • Bronze
    13 weeks old....I just got him a few days ago.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Do you have a crate for him instead?  That would be better.  Too much freedom too early can lead to a few headaches.
    • Bronze
    yah i have a crate but i dont want to leave him in their for 7 1/2 hours....wouldnt that be cruelity!!!
    • Gold Top Dog
    It's not cruel.  In the wild wolf cubs will stay in the den while the s are out hunting.  Sometimes this can be for a day or two.  The crate is your pup's safe place.  It's one of the easiest things that you can do to aid in housetraining. 
    • Bronze
    ok...i will take your word on that....just curious i am trying to house train my puppy using the crate method and have left him in there for short periods as i am trying to get him used to it...he does sleep well in it..however, he is scared to go in.  He doesnt seem to like to pee outside but he does like to pee on my carpet...my latest incident ...i was watching him circling so i made a noise to try and distract him but he started piddling on the floor...i had a pee matt right by where he was so i quickly picked him up and put him on it where he dribbled abit and stopped i promptly put him outside but he  didnt go..i guess keep trying...i never scolded him.

    if u have any suggestions please feel free.

    all the best.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Reward him when he goes outside. As soon as you notice any signs of him needing to go take him out. Also get him on a regular feeding schedule so you know about when he will need to go so you can take him out at thoes times. Only schold him if you catch him doing it inside, give a long but harsh "don't" like a mother dog would growl at her puppy. If you find a mistake but didn't see him do it don't get upset.
    • Gold Top Dog
    also...the very second you take him out of his crate...pick him up and take him outside.  Use a command like "go potty" or "hurry up" or "tinkle" or something like that when he's going.  Take him to the same place religiously.  He'll learn what he's expected to do and where to do it. 

    As time goes on you can gradually increase his freedoms, but only a little at a time.  Baby gates are a great thing for this.  But we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves...
    • Gold Top Dog
    First of all a crate is a great idea.  A young puppy only needs enough room to stand up and turn around.  They usually have a natural instince not to mess where they sleep or eat.  As a really young pup they may have accidents but will probably grow out of this.  If there is any chance you can come home or have someone come at mid day and let your pup out to go potty that is even better.  I think the general rule of thumb is that a puppy can hold it their month in age plus 1 hours...a little longer when sleeping or not active.  So a three month old puppy could possible hold it 4 hours, but that all depends on their age and other factors. 
     
    When you are home, I would make sure you always take your puppy out first thing in the morning, last thing at night, anytime you get home and take your puppy out of the crate, and ;probably 10-15 minutes after meals and every few hours until you know their routine.  Be sure to praise a lot and even give a small treat for going outside so that your puppy knows it is a good thing when they do this.  I used to throw Izzy a little party with singing and dancing when she went outside until she got the hang of it!  That will hopefully help with not going on the carpet and going outside instead.  Same with the pad if that is what you are using instead of going outside, but if there is an option, I would work on going outside.  JMO.     
     
    With Izzy, we used mind toys to make her crate more enjoyable.  She stays in hers 9 hours a day, but she is tiny and has a litter box inside of it that she uses when needed, which isn't very often anymore.  The mind toys include different Kongs and treat balls.  As soon as she sees a treat come out, she RUNS to her crate so she can get it!  She wasn't always like that but has learned that her crate isn't a bad place at all. 
     
    BTW: Welcome to the forum.  You can find lots of info about this in the training section. 
    • Bronze
    thanks...i have been taking him to the same spot and as of yet he still hasnt gone....i played ball with him for about an hour today ...he may have gone but its really hard to tell cus he doesnt lift his leg up (he doesnt left his leg up when he pees.....i always thought male dogs do ....i will look for other treats to give him...i have before...but he isnt keen on it. 

    thanks for the welcome..im sure i will be visiting more often as this will be a challeng i think ;)
    • Gold Top Dog
    Not all male dogs lift their leg up, especily when they are puppies. They do the squat thing mostly.

    It will just take time for him to learn, keep on it.
    • Gold Top Dog
    At the first sign of an impending pee, you need to be snatching the pup up (in a towel so you don't get wet) and running him to outside.
     
    I had a foster pup who came back, partially because they couldn't housetrain him.  Hmmm, he left MY house housetrained.......he came back in January and we still joke about him not being trainable....when he's scratching at the door to go out, or coming to us and circling to let us know....nope, can't be housetrained!!  When he came home he had a whooping ONE accident.  I caught him midstream and said "eh eh, not there.  Did you forget that we GO POTTY OUTSIDE?"  That was it.  No harsh words, no raised voice, nothing, just a reminder, and he has NEVER had another accident.  Not even after our recent move.
     
    I am consistent about using lets go outside and go potty.  A different foster litter taught me that if I just said go potty they would...right on the mudroom floor!  So I ALWAYS use outside and potty together.  And praise like crazy when someone actually GOES potty outside.  I'm usually training whole litters so I keep towels right next to me all the time, and using the consistent key words or phrase, coupled with not sitting a whole lot when they are little really does work.
    • Gold Top Dog
    That's all great advice you got, but Glenda is the authority on this subject can a pup that age hold it for 7 1/2 hrs during the day?
    • Gold Top Dog
    I wouldn't exactly call me an authority on ANY subject.....just an old broad with a ton of experience.  But, no, I don't think that a 13 week old pup should be expected to hold it that long.
     
    The area described is far too large tho.  maybe a 4x8?  If I read correctly 48 SQUARE feet?  That's too big.  What I do with pups is use a giant metal crate...dane sized for their sleeping area and attach an exercise pen with bungies for a potty area.  And the pads were in the very FAR end of the ex pen and this worked very nicely for us.